| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… 21:46 - Jul 30 with 2778 views | Bigalhunter |
Utterly staggered to learn on Sky Sports News this evening that Sunderland have now spaffed the third highest summer spending amount for newly promoted clubs, in PL history.
£135m with the caveat of potential add-ons.
We weren’t even in the top 6 spending table after last season’s spree…
Forest, Villa, Southampton, Leeds, Fulham and now Sunderland all spent more in the last 7 seasons.
My gaster is well and truly flabbered, I thought we went pound-spunking bonkers last summer…
Go figure, you do the math…cheapskate American owners etc etc
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| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 21:49 - Jul 30 with 2674 views | WicklowBlue |
Didn't we spend ~£125m?
Forest went all in and it just worked out for them. I expect Lids to be following close behind if not exceed that amount. |  | | |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 21:58 - Jul 30 with 2476 views | AlexMathie |
Sunderland have had an extra £30 million to spend under FFP with the sale of Jobe Bellingham |  |
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| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 22:01 - Jul 30 with 2417 views | jayessess |
One thing about not being a returning parachute club - your wage bill and lack of previous big transfers is going to leave you with a huge amount of headroom for PSR. Downside of course is that you have to replace 90% of your starting eleven with it |  |
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| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 22:10 - Jul 30 with 2249 views | Smoresy |
Did Sky put up a table? We definitely spent a good bit more on transfers over the whole season than Southampton did in 24/25 or Leeds in 20/21, or Fulham in any of their first seasons. Maybe they've done a lot of inflation-related adjustments (I didn't realise we were behind these clubs before our winter transfers kicked in).
TMK we're bronze medallists overall. 🥇 Forest, 🥈 Villa. | | | |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 22:18 - Jul 30 with 2133 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 21:58 - Jul 30 by AlexMathie |
Sunderland have had an extra £30 million to spend under FFP with the sale of Jobe Bellingham |
Indeed they got more than £10 mil for Watson as well so their net spend will still be much lower then ours was (so far). Xhaka is a superb signing. Think they have a chance. | |
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| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 22:23 - Jul 30 with 2060 views | EastTownBlue |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 21:58 - Jul 30 by AlexMathie |
Sunderland have had an extra £30 million to spend under FFP with the sale of Jobe Bellingham |
New TV deal starts from this season, not sure how much extra a year that will be for each club. | | | |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 22:24 - Jul 30 with 2038 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
They're business looks really good to me and they had been out a while, plus were a mess in League 1. I still think our strategy was slightly off last year unless we had all but accepted relegation but we look in great shape for this season.
Be curious to see how they do. |  | | |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 23:33 - Jul 30 with 1725 views | Bigalhunter |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 22:10 - Jul 30 by Smoresy |
Did Sky put up a table? We definitely spent a good bit more on transfers over the whole season than Southampton did in 24/25 or Leeds in 20/21, or Fulham in any of their first seasons. Maybe they've done a lot of inflation-related adjustments (I didn't realise we were behind these clubs before our winter transfers kicked in).
TMK we're bronze medallists overall. 🥇 Forest, 🥈 Villa. |
They did and I just can’t believe it’s correct.
They titled their table ‘Highest summer spending by newly-promoted clubs’ and listed it as follows.
1 Forest 2022 £157.25m
2 Villa 2019 £144.5m
3 Sunderland 2025 £135.8m
4 Southampton 2024 £108.3m
5 Leeds 2020 £106m
6 Fulham 2018 £105.3m
Surely we spent more than Southampton last summer? | |
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| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 23:54 - Jul 30 with 1639 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 23:33 - Jul 30 by Bigalhunter |
They did and I just can’t believe it’s correct.
They titled their table ‘Highest summer spending by newly-promoted clubs’ and listed it as follows.
1 Forest 2022 £157.25m
2 Villa 2019 £144.5m
3 Sunderland 2025 £135.8m
4 Southampton 2024 £108.3m
5 Leeds 2020 £106m
6 Fulham 2018 £105.3m
Surely we spent more than Southampton last summer? |
We spent a total of just under £130M, both windows. Take Philogene and Palmer off that, and it will be around £105 in the summer. So about right that we don’t quite make that list of 6 | | | |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 23:58 - Jul 30 with 1618 views | Smoresy |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 23:33 - Jul 30 by Bigalhunter |
They did and I just can’t believe it’s correct.
They titled their table ‘Highest summer spending by newly-promoted clubs’ and listed it as follows.
1 Forest 2022 £157.25m
2 Villa 2019 £144.5m
3 Sunderland 2025 £135.8m
4 Southampton 2024 £108.3m
5 Leeds 2020 £106m
6 Fulham 2018 £105.3m
Surely we spent more than Southampton last summer? |
Curious. We spent £106.5m according to Transfermarkt, while Southampton reportedly spent £98.5m plus two undisclosed fees, for young players sent straight out on loan to an unheralded Turkish team. Perhaps Sky recorded our initial fees differently to other sources - recall Omari's reported fee varied from £18m-£22m on the main sites when it was announced.
The Philogene fee is where we meaningfully separated ourselves from 4th down in that table, but I didn't appreciate Sunderland are up to £135.8m already. They've spent £113.5m according to the aforementioned site, which must be behind on announcements.*
*Ah just noticed you mentioned add-ons. Our add-ons must have guaranteed us a place on the board! [Post edited 31 Jul 0:00]
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| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 00:01 - Jul 31 with 1593 views | bournemouthblue |
Just goes to show we weren't going completely wild with our spending
Like us Sunderland weren't in League One that long back either, arguably with an even weaker squad going up than us so they do need to do some major work to be competitive next season |  |
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| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 01:12 - Jul 31 with 1479 views | berkstractorboy |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 00:01 - Jul 31 by bournemouthblue |
Just goes to show we weren't going completely wild with our spending
Like us Sunderland weren't in League One that long back either, arguably with an even weaker squad going up than us so they do need to do some major work to be competitive next season |
Just takes a couple of injuries for Sunderland like we had and they could be in trouble. Imagine Xhaka is out for half a season with something that would really hurt. They look like could field a strong starting XI but as we quickly found out its also finishing with a strong XI that's important. | | | |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 03:36 - Jul 31 with 1333 views | football |
They'll still be back down, hopefully, alongside Leeds
Don't mimd Burnley staying up but can't stand Leeds or Sunderland (I say that having lived in Leeds and Newcastle for several years) | | | |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 06:24 - Jul 31 with 1102 views | iamatractorboy |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 22:01 - Jul 30 by jayessess |
One thing about not being a returning parachute club - your wage bill and lack of previous big transfers is going to leave you with a huge amount of headroom for PSR. Downside of course is that you have to replace 90% of your starting eleven with it |
Not really, because you don't have the parachute payments as income, surely, so it's swings and roundabouts? | | | |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 11:36 - Jul 31 with 555 views | jayessess |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 06:24 - Jul 31 by iamatractorboy |
Not really, because you don't have the parachute payments as income, surely, so it's swings and roundabouts? |
Sort of?
In 2024-25 Sunderland, Leeds and Burnley will all have gone as close as they could to their FFP limit (though Sunderland's limit will have been way less). None of them will have extra budget leeway because they left money unspent last season.
In 2025-26 Leeds and Burnley will have already committed a lot of their PL budget to wages and transfer fees agreed over the past 2/3 seasons. But like us last year Sunderland the money already committed budget on wages and transfer fees will be far far less. | |
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| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 11:49 - Jul 31 with 460 views | yorkshireblue |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 01:12 - Jul 31 by berkstractorboy |
Just takes a couple of injuries for Sunderland like we had and they could be in trouble. Imagine Xhaka is out for half a season with something that would really hurt. They look like could field a strong starting XI but as we quickly found out its also finishing with a strong XI that's important. |
Looking at their signings, a fair few of them could be missing a chunk of the season with AFCON. |  | | |
| Sunderland spending this summer third highest in PL history… on 12:51 - Jul 31 with 250 views | darkhorse28 |
Ours was up to £150 million, including the winter window.
They’re about the same level as we spent, only they’ve targeted proven top flight experience.
All three promoted sides, very focussed on players with experience at a much higher level than the EFL.
Will be interesting to see how they compare to our points total. Suspect one or more will stay up. But who knows, tough league. | | | |
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