| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:05 - Aug 4 with 531 views | Chrisd |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 11:57 - Aug 4 by gainsboroughblue |
And that's that.
Great drama but absolutely shambolic collapse. |
Collapses have been the name of the game this series for both sides. |  |
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:05 - Aug 4 with 527 views | Ryorry |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 11:57 - Aug 4 by gainsboroughblue |
And that's that.
Great drama but absolutely shambolic collapse. |
Was going to say disappointing for England supporters, but actually I can’t feel disappointed after such a great, competitive, finely balanced series, it’s been hugely enjoyable.
Well done to both teams, and it’s lovely to see the India fans so happy. |  |
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:06 - Aug 4 with 519 views | Herbivore |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 11:58 - Aug 4 by Chrisd |
Let’s be fair, India didn’t deserve to lose the series. For large parts, they’ve been the better team across the 5 test matches. |
And yet they only managed a draw, and only managed that because Chris Woakes dislocated his shoulder and England forgot how to catch. |  |
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:09 - Aug 4 with 491 views | Chrisd |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:06 - Aug 4 by Herbivore |
And yet they only managed a draw, and only managed that because Chris Woakes dislocated his shoulder and England forgot how to catch. |
It would’ve been really harsh if England had won this series, for me India deserved to take something away for their efforts. 2-2 feels about right. [Post edited 4 Aug 16:10]
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:14 - Aug 4 with 454 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Without being too critical as it’s our style these days to go overly aggressive/borderline reckless.. Harry Brook getting out in that manner when needing 80 odd to win with 7 wickets in hand is the moment the test match went from being done and dusted to squeaky bum time. The whole energy of both teams switched. |  |
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:16 - Aug 4 with 430 views | chantryblueboy |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:14 - Aug 4 by The_Romford_Blue |
Without being too critical as it’s our style these days to go overly aggressive/borderline reckless.. Harry Brook getting out in that manner when needing 80 odd to win with 7 wickets in hand is the moment the test match went from being done and dusted to squeaky bum time. The whole energy of both teams switched. |
And if Brook had come out and played forward defensives all day we wouldnt have got near it | | | |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:19 - Aug 4 with 413 views | Chrisd |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:14 - Aug 4 by The_Romford_Blue |
Without being too critical as it’s our style these days to go overly aggressive/borderline reckless.. Harry Brook getting out in that manner when needing 80 odd to win with 7 wickets in hand is the moment the test match went from being done and dusted to squeaky bum time. The whole energy of both teams switched. |
Once the Indians snared Root last night, they believed they could do it. Their bowling was causing all sorts of problems, it just seemed like every ball there was question being asked of the batsman. Siraj will get the plaudits but the other Indian seamers also played their part. [Post edited 4 Aug 16:11]
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:22 - Aug 4 with 407 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:16 - Aug 4 by chantryblueboy |
And if Brook had come out and played forward defensives all day we wouldnt have got near it |
Absolutely.
But we did get near it. Largely thanks to brook. So when we needed 84 runs and had 7 wickets left, it was ours to lose. And that would at that moment be more likely down to us making a bad rash shot than a moment of brilliance from a tired Indian bowling unit against two set batters.
And Brooke did just that by running down the wicket and playing a hack. There’s no excuse. It’s poor game management in that moment | |
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:30 - Aug 4 with 366 views | Ftnfwest |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 11:57 - Aug 4 by gainsboroughblue |
And that's that.
Great drama but absolutely shambolic collapse. |
would have bitten your hand off for a draw at the start of the series tbh, thought we'd lose fairly comfortably and still think we'll get white washed in Australia. Bowling? I think this series had merely told us who isn't good enough and really our best two remaining seamers are atkinson and stokes. Archer/Wood you may as well treat as one bowler for the winter in the hope that one can play at any given time. Tongue hoovered up the tail a few times but i think would get clattered in australia, however such is the dearth of talent he'll probably have to go. |  | | |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:32 - Aug 4 with 368 views | Bobbychase |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:16 - Aug 4 by chantryblueboy |
And if Brook had come out and played forward defensives all day we wouldnt have got near it |
That's not the point though it is. The point is Root and Brook had taken the game from being an almost certain India win to them having their heads down, bowlers knackered, fielding mistakes creeping in. The issue I have with Bazball is that you will see a player hit two fours in an over and then get out doing something daft as they think they have to hit a third or fourth boundary. You can cut loose like Brook and Root did, but still use your brain now and then. Brook getting himself out - and that is what he did - let them back in.
Might be a fair result, a drawn series, but we had India 0-2 in their second innings at Old Trafford but didn't have the bowlers to finish the job on a flat pitch, and to have been so close to the target at the Oval with only five down and then have to send a man with one arm in a sling is pretty pathetic.
Bazball is a choice between entertainment and winning the big series. Australia will be licking their lips looking at today. |  |
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 14:01 - Aug 4 with 240 views | Radlett_blue |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:32 - Aug 4 by Bobbychase |
That's not the point though it is. The point is Root and Brook had taken the game from being an almost certain India win to them having their heads down, bowlers knackered, fielding mistakes creeping in. The issue I have with Bazball is that you will see a player hit two fours in an over and then get out doing something daft as they think they have to hit a third or fourth boundary. You can cut loose like Brook and Root did, but still use your brain now and then. Brook getting himself out - and that is what he did - let them back in.
Might be a fair result, a drawn series, but we had India 0-2 in their second innings at Old Trafford but didn't have the bowlers to finish the job on a flat pitch, and to have been so close to the target at the Oval with only five down and then have to send a man with one arm in a sling is pretty pathetic.
Bazball is a choice between entertainment and winning the big series. Australia will be licking their lips looking at today. |
Agreed. Root & Brook had taken England to 301-4 with only another 70 odd needed so Brook should have toned it down & England would have got home comfortably. When he was out, the out of form Bethell couldn't find a single to get Root on strike so the chase ground to a halt, Root got out & Bethell threw away his wicket in frustration. [Post edited 4 Aug 16:16]
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 14:36 - Aug 4 with 181 views | Herbivore |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 12:32 - Aug 4 by Bobbychase |
That's not the point though it is. The point is Root and Brook had taken the game from being an almost certain India win to them having their heads down, bowlers knackered, fielding mistakes creeping in. The issue I have with Bazball is that you will see a player hit two fours in an over and then get out doing something daft as they think they have to hit a third or fourth boundary. You can cut loose like Brook and Root did, but still use your brain now and then. Brook getting himself out - and that is what he did - let them back in.
Might be a fair result, a drawn series, but we had India 0-2 in their second innings at Old Trafford but didn't have the bowlers to finish the job on a flat pitch, and to have been so close to the target at the Oval with only five down and then have to send a man with one arm in a sling is pretty pathetic.
Bazball is a choice between entertainment and winning the big series. Australia will be licking their lips looking at today. |
I would argue that this style of cricket is what gives us the chance to win big series, personally. I can't imagine even our best sides under Vaughan getting close to chasing 374 to win on a wicket like that with only 10 men able to bat, and they had better players available to call on, imo. Brook's approach got us close to victory, it's not his fault we didn't get there. Bethell looked lost and Smith looked terrified, it shouldn't have been asking too much for one of them to hit 20 runs and see us home with the tail. Root's dismissal was worse than Brook's too, imo. At least Brook got out playing the way that got him to a big score, Root wafted at one meekly. You can get out playing bad shots to decent balls whether you're being aggressive or not. | |
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 15:01 - Aug 4 with 153 views | victorysquad |
Went on Friday, it was great series overall. As many people have said the Indians deserved at least a draw, just a shame it was more like a home game for them. We hardly made a peep in any of the test matches. | |
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 15:33 - Aug 4 with 111 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 11:59 - Aug 4 by Steve_M |
Still got annoyingly close to it despite collapsing twice.
Siraj with the final wicket, best bowler of the series by some distance. |
Oh, I thought that award went to Bashir. |  |
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 15:36 - Aug 4 with 106 views | Reuser_is_God |
On to the Ashes then.
That batting unit is in a good place, hopefully we get no injuries between now & then to those 7 in possession.
Bowling is a concern fitness wise, however I think there is enough quality there if we can get Archer, Wood, Tongue, Atkinson, Carse & Woakes fit enough to rotate them across the 5 tests.
Spinner is what concerns me, I think whoever we pick will get tonked. I think I’d go Dawson purely for the all round ability. | |
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 15:47 - Aug 4 with 91 views | Ryorry |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 15:36 - Aug 4 by Reuser_is_God |
On to the Ashes then.
That batting unit is in a good place, hopefully we get no injuries between now & then to those 7 in possession.
Bowling is a concern fitness wise, however I think there is enough quality there if we can get Archer, Wood, Tongue, Atkinson, Carse & Woakes fit enough to rotate them across the 5 tests.
Spinner is what concerns me, I think whoever we pick will get tonked. I think I’d go Dawson purely for the all round ability. |
And re your bowling fitness concerns - Stokes! | |
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 16:18 - Aug 4 with 57 views | Radlett_blue |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 11:59 - Aug 4 by Steve_M |
Still got annoyingly close to it despite collapsing twice.
Siraj with the final wicket, best bowler of the series by some distance. |
Hmm...not in Bumrah's league, although he only played 3 Tests. | |
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| Cricket Day 5 then on 16:26 - Aug 4 with 49 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Cricket Day 5 then on 16:18 - Aug 4 by Radlett_blue |
Hmm...not in Bumrah's league, although he only played 3 Tests. |
Bumrah wasn’t all that this series, no coincidence they win the matches he doesn’t play either. | |
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