| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- 23:12 - Aug 8 with 3193 views | Libero |
I’m sure people are having very balanced reactions to the game.
Birmingham restricted us really well and we laboured away with very little quality, making hard work of simple things too. Cajuste needs to get up to speed quick, that midfield needs support, ASAP.
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 09:25 - Aug 9 with 509 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 09:10 - Aug 9 by Herbivore |
It's very odd, the consensus before kick off was that this would be one of our hardest games of the season and possibly the worst fixture we could have had first up and that we'd take a point all day long. We took a point and I'm seeing lots of people losing their heads. Is it going to be like this all season again? I'd hoped we'd left that behind.
We weren't great, but we had 2 or 3 decent chances first half to go in ahead after nullifying them effectively without playing much football ourselves in the opening 20 minutes. Those saying we created nothing from open play must have missed Szmodics missing a sitter, Taylor nodding a very good chance wide, and Leif getting it wrong when in on the left (another touch then picking out a teammate would have been a better call). Brum ran their socks off and looked goosed at the end. They were dirty bastards too and the ref never really has control, made the game very disjointed.
We'll be a lot better in a few weeks. Too many last night were short of football (Johnson, Ogbene, Taylor, Szmodics, Clarke, Hirst - all bit part players and/or injured last season) and a bit of confidence. The squad has more strength in depth to come as well. We take the point, we move on, and ideally we do it without pissing our pants because we didn't play like 1970s Brazil. |
Perfectly summed up. |  |
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:18 - Aug 9 with 436 views | Chrisd |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 09:10 - Aug 9 by Herbivore |
It's very odd, the consensus before kick off was that this would be one of our hardest games of the season and possibly the worst fixture we could have had first up and that we'd take a point all day long. We took a point and I'm seeing lots of people losing their heads. Is it going to be like this all season again? I'd hoped we'd left that behind.
We weren't great, but we had 2 or 3 decent chances first half to go in ahead after nullifying them effectively without playing much football ourselves in the opening 20 minutes. Those saying we created nothing from open play must have missed Szmodics missing a sitter, Taylor nodding a very good chance wide, and Leif getting it wrong when in on the left (another touch then picking out a teammate would have been a better call). Brum ran their socks off and looked goosed at the end. They were dirty bastards too and the ref never really has control, made the game very disjointed.
We'll be a lot better in a few weeks. Too many last night were short of football (Johnson, Ogbene, Taylor, Szmodics, Clarke, Hirst - all bit part players and/or injured last season) and a bit of confidence. The squad has more strength in depth to come as well. We take the point, we move on, and ideally we do it without pissing our pants because we didn't play like 1970s Brazil. |
We weren’t great?! A huge understatement. For a lot of that squad that had played together during last season compared to a Brum side that had made additions during the summer we played like strangers and they were the better side. It was a poor performance full stop and Birmingham wanted it more than our players. If you can tell me when Allsop had to make a save that would be great, Szmodics’ effort was poor he should’ve at least hit the target. You don’t have to play like vintage Brazil, at least attempt to do something would be helpful. We did virtually nothing last night in that final third and were outplayed. We got very fortunate to get a draw, which quite frankly we didn’t deserve.
That’s a more honest summary, than your ‘blue tinted’ outlook. [Post edited 9 Aug 16:32]
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:25 - Aug 9 with 429 views | LeoMuff |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:18 - Aug 9 by Chrisd |
We weren’t great?! A huge understatement. For a lot of that squad that had played together during last season compared to a Brum side that had made additions during the summer we played like strangers and they were the better side. It was a poor performance full stop and Birmingham wanted it more than our players. If you can tell me when Allsop had to make a save that would be great, Szmodics’ effort was poor he should’ve at least hit the target. You don’t have to play like vintage Brazil, at least attempt to do something would be helpful. We did virtually nothing last night in that final third and were outplayed. We got very fortunate to get a draw, which quite frankly we didn’t deserve.
That’s a more honest summary, than your ‘blue tinted’ outlook. [Post edited 9 Aug 16:32]
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It was a terrible performance -30% possession first half, we had no control whatsoever. |  |
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:28 - Aug 9 with 421 views | Chrisd |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:25 - Aug 9 by LeoMuff |
It was a terrible performance -30% possession first half, we had no control whatsoever. |
Isn’t it funny how some of our fans don’t like to call a spade a spade?! | |
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:32 - Aug 9 with 410 views | Reuser_is_God |
Yeah that’s what I loved about last night, already getting ourselves into that nack of winning points late on.
By no means a polished performance but we’ll be absolutely fine. |  |
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:34 - Aug 9 with 397 views | Libero |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:32 - Aug 9 by Reuser_is_God |
Yeah that’s what I loved about last night, already getting ourselves into that nack of winning points late on.
By no means a polished performance but we’ll be absolutely fine. |
Watching the wallies wrong their hands about how poor we were does have me a bit concerned about what does happen if we go through a tough patch this season though - it’ll be “McKenna out!” at the earliest opportunity from some of these I reckon. | | | |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:37 - Aug 9 with 389 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 09:10 - Aug 9 by Herbivore |
It's very odd, the consensus before kick off was that this would be one of our hardest games of the season and possibly the worst fixture we could have had first up and that we'd take a point all day long. We took a point and I'm seeing lots of people losing their heads. Is it going to be like this all season again? I'd hoped we'd left that behind.
We weren't great, but we had 2 or 3 decent chances first half to go in ahead after nullifying them effectively without playing much football ourselves in the opening 20 minutes. Those saying we created nothing from open play must have missed Szmodics missing a sitter, Taylor nodding a very good chance wide, and Leif getting it wrong when in on the left (another touch then picking out a teammate would have been a better call). Brum ran their socks off and looked goosed at the end. They were dirty bastards too and the ref never really has control, made the game very disjointed.
We'll be a lot better in a few weeks. Too many last night were short of football (Johnson, Ogbene, Taylor, Szmodics, Clarke, Hirst - all bit part players and/or injured last season) and a bit of confidence. The squad has more strength in depth to come as well. We take the point, we move on, and ideally we do it without pissing our pants because we didn't play like 1970s Brazil. |
I think people are happy with the result but concerned with elements of the performance. |  |
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:39 - Aug 9 with 383 views | Chrisd |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:34 - Aug 9 by Libero |
Watching the wallies wrong their hands about how poor we were does have me a bit concerned about what does happen if we go through a tough patch this season though - it’ll be “McKenna out!” at the earliest opportunity from some of these I reckon. |
Are we not allowed to say when we play poorly or do we just pretend we played well every game?! When comments are valid and balanced that’s fair game, there’s no disguising last night was woeful however you try to gloss over it. | |
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:42 - Aug 9 with 371 views | tonybied |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:37 - Aug 9 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I think people are happy with the result but concerned with elements of the performance. |
It was a concerning performance, I'll agree. It was also just one game, with an unfinished squad and injuries. I think we should see how were doing by mid September before we soil ourselves, like some seem to be doing (not saying you are btw JJJJ). |  | | |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:53 - Aug 9 with 355 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:42 - Aug 9 by tonybied |
It was a concerning performance, I'll agree. It was also just one game, with an unfinished squad and injuries. I think we should see how were doing by mid September before we soil ourselves, like some seem to be doing (not saying you are btw JJJJ). |
Yeah, I was just disappointed with not being able to match their intensity at times and a couple of individual performances. They had 3-4 sights at goal and took one of them. Pretty sure all came from us conceding possession either from their press or just giving it away poorly.
The brief times we did get it down and play we looked the better footballing side. Also pre season can not replicate for that environment at all. I think all the hype of us being favorites and a fairly underwhelming window hasn’t helped.
The very good news is, we didn’t lose, we have business to do and a lot of those that started will still be getting back in game shape. [Post edited 9 Aug 16:58]
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:56 - Aug 9 with 349 views | jas0999 |
Dreadful performance from us … but still picked up an away point. | | | |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 17:04 - Aug 9 with 327 views | pointofblue |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:42 - Aug 9 by tonybied |
It was a concerning performance, I'll agree. It was also just one game, with an unfinished squad and injuries. I think we should see how were doing by mid September before we soil ourselves, like some seem to be doing (not saying you are btw JJJJ). |
I remember the derby game down here early in 2018/19. Neither side were great shakes, but we were the better team. They managed to wangle a draw, with... was it Farke back then?... under a lot of pressure.
They cruised to the title, we slumped to an embarrassing relegation, which goes to show, things can take time to settle. That should not distract from the disappointment of yesterday's performance, though. I did expect more considering how we fared in pre-season, albeit I understand those kinds of games are very different. | |
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 17:09 - Aug 9 with 324 views | tonybied |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:53 - Aug 9 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Yeah, I was just disappointed with not being able to match their intensity at times and a couple of individual performances. They had 3-4 sights at goal and took one of them. Pretty sure all came from us conceding possession either from their press or just giving it away poorly.
The brief times we did get it down and play we looked the better footballing side. Also pre season can not replicate for that environment at all. I think all the hype of us being favorites and a fairly underwhelming window hasn’t helped.
The very good news is, we didn’t lose, we have business to do and a lot of those that started will still be getting back in game shape. [Post edited 9 Aug 16:58]
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Some of those that are using the 0 shots on target as a stick to beart us with are being rather disingenuous. We were poor and very disjointed, but even so, we did fashion a few chances that we should've done better with. Sammy had a real chance to take the lead that he blasted wide and Taylor had a header that he should've tested the keeper with too. It wasn't like we offered nothing at all. | | | |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 17:21 - Aug 9 with 295 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 17:04 - Aug 9 by pointofblue |
I remember the derby game down here early in 2018/19. Neither side were great shakes, but we were the better team. They managed to wangle a draw, with... was it Farke back then?... under a lot of pressure.
They cruised to the title, we slumped to an embarrassing relegation, which goes to show, things can take time to settle. That should not distract from the disappointment of yesterday's performance, though. I did expect more considering how we fared in pre-season, albeit I understand those kinds of games are very different. |
Leeds drew 3-3 with Pompey at home last season to open. Then got smashed by Boro in the league cup and failed to beat WBA in their next game. It’s slightly annoying we have two of our toughest games in the first 8 days but hopefully we can pull something out next weekend and then we have a chance to really get going.
While looking at the table this early would obviously be ridiculous being 5 points behind a rival wouldn’t be great either,
Did Southampton look any good? I was asleep. | |
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 17:28 - Aug 9 with 274 views | tonybied |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 17:21 - Aug 9 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Leeds drew 3-3 with Pompey at home last season to open. Then got smashed by Boro in the league cup and failed to beat WBA in their next game. It’s slightly annoying we have two of our toughest games in the first 8 days but hopefully we can pull something out next weekend and then we have a chance to really get going.
While looking at the table this early would obviously be ridiculous being 5 points behind a rival wouldn’t be great either,
Did Southampton look any good? I was asleep. |
Not really, once they lost Kieffer to injury Wrexham faded quickly and gave the game away. | | | |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 17:39 - Aug 9 with 259 views | DavoIPB |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 23:28 - Aug 8 by ReusersTown |
I just don't see it Frimley, and Stanfield didn't look much like a scorer to me until we put in on a plate. |
He also nearly missed an open goal. | | | |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 18:31 - Aug 9 with 239 views | Swailsey |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 23:16 - Aug 8 by Libero |
Point of order- they stopped us and very effectively.
Having watched them play now, I’d be absolutely stunned if Birmingham are anywhere near the automatics. They can’t keep that up every week, they were fist pumping putting the ball out for a throw in FFS 😂 |
People said that about us.. |  |
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 18:37 - Aug 9 with 233 views | Herbivore |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:18 - Aug 9 by Chrisd |
We weren’t great?! A huge understatement. For a lot of that squad that had played together during last season compared to a Brum side that had made additions during the summer we played like strangers and they were the better side. It was a poor performance full stop and Birmingham wanted it more than our players. If you can tell me when Allsop had to make a save that would be great, Szmodics’ effort was poor he should’ve at least hit the target. You don’t have to play like vintage Brazil, at least attempt to do something would be helpful. We did virtually nothing last night in that final third and were outplayed. We got very fortunate to get a draw, which quite frankly we didn’t deserve.
That’s a more honest summary, than your ‘blue tinted’ outlook. [Post edited 9 Aug 16:32]
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I'm sure you are being honest, as was I, so no need for the attempted smears. We weren't outplayed, that's a very negative take. Most of the stats were pretty even and while we didn't create much, nor did they. And while many of our squad were here last season, most of that side last night hadn't played much football together before. Many hadn't played much football last season full stop. [Post edited 9 Aug 19:15]
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 19:13 - Aug 9 with 213 views | RIPbobby |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 17:09 - Aug 9 by tonybied |
Some of those that are using the 0 shots on target as a stick to beart us with are being rather disingenuous. We were poor and very disjointed, but even so, we did fashion a few chances that we should've done better with. Sammy had a real chance to take the lead that he blasted wide and Taylor had a header that he should've tested the keeper with too. It wasn't like we offered nothing at all. |
Please remember that Palmer had nothing to do to other than a couple of dollies straight at him. At no stage did either keeper make a save. |  | | |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 19:22 - Aug 9 with 189 views | Chrisd |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 18:37 - Aug 9 by Herbivore |
I'm sure you are being honest, as was I, so no need for the attempted smears. We weren't outplayed, that's a very negative take. Most of the stats were pretty even and while we didn't create much, nor did they. And while many of our squad were here last season, most of that side last night hadn't played much football together before. Many hadn't played much football last season full stop. [Post edited 9 Aug 19:15]
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No, you’re completely right, we thoroughly outplayed and outclassed Birmingham, how we didn’t win that game is a travesty? Have a look at the number of games played by our players last season:
Palmer 13, O’Shea 35, Davis 32, Greaves 24, Taylor 4+28 sub, Clarke 12 + 19 sub, Johnson 14 + 9 sub, Hirst 6 + 20 sub, Szmodics 13 + 7 subs, Chaplin 10 + 12 sub and Broadhead 7 + 11 sub even Al Hamadi made 11 sub appearances. That’s quite a few games over a 38 season, we aren’t talking about 1 or 2.
Let’s not pretend we were in the game last night, as getting the opportunity to equalise was a complete surprise for all of us and if you say no it was coming, then I know you’re being disingenuous. It’s ok to criticise the team when they’ve played poorly and they certainly did that last night. | |
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 19:28 - Aug 9 with 171 views | bartyg |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 19:22 - Aug 9 by Chrisd |
No, you’re completely right, we thoroughly outplayed and outclassed Birmingham, how we didn’t win that game is a travesty? Have a look at the number of games played by our players last season:
Palmer 13, O’Shea 35, Davis 32, Greaves 24, Taylor 4+28 sub, Clarke 12 + 19 sub, Johnson 14 + 9 sub, Hirst 6 + 20 sub, Szmodics 13 + 7 subs, Chaplin 10 + 12 sub and Broadhead 7 + 11 sub even Al Hamadi made 11 sub appearances. That’s quite a few games over a 38 season, we aren’t talking about 1 or 2.
Let’s not pretend we were in the game last night, as getting the opportunity to equalise was a complete surprise for all of us and if you say no it was coming, then I know you’re being disingenuous. It’s ok to criticise the team when they’ve played poorly and they certainly did that last night. |
You're being disingenuous, I don't think Herbivore was claiming we should have won at all.
Doomsday posting after an away draw against a team riding a high? Get a grip |  | | |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 19:32 - Aug 9 with 155 views | Herbivore |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 19:22 - Aug 9 by Chrisd |
No, you’re completely right, we thoroughly outplayed and outclassed Birmingham, how we didn’t win that game is a travesty? Have a look at the number of games played by our players last season:
Palmer 13, O’Shea 35, Davis 32, Greaves 24, Taylor 4+28 sub, Clarke 12 + 19 sub, Johnson 14 + 9 sub, Hirst 6 + 20 sub, Szmodics 13 + 7 subs, Chaplin 10 + 12 sub and Broadhead 7 + 11 sub even Al Hamadi made 11 sub appearances. That’s quite a few games over a 38 season, we aren’t talking about 1 or 2.
Let’s not pretend we were in the game last night, as getting the opportunity to equalise was a complete surprise for all of us and if you say no it was coming, then I know you’re being disingenuous. It’s ok to criticise the team when they’ve played poorly and they certainly did that last night. |
Why are you making stuff up that nobody has claimed? I said we weren't very good but we weren't outplayed either. It was a poor game, as McKenna said. Very scrappy, very disjointed.
Thanks for demonstrating that aside from three of the back four, most of the side didn't play much last season. No surprise that defence was where we looked most well organised and most comfortable. I'm sure as we get players back and get players in and play together more we'll improve. | |
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 19:33 - Aug 9 with 154 views | Chrisd |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 19:28 - Aug 9 by bartyg |
You're being disingenuous, I don't think Herbivore was claiming we should have won at all.
Doomsday posting after an away draw against a team riding a high? Get a grip |
I’m perfectly fine, what I don’t like is when it’s clear as day we didn’t play well, which we didn’t then you are entitled to voice that opinion. For me, Birmingham were the better side, wanted it more than us and when we equalised that came as a complete surprise! If that’s being disingenuous, then guilty as charged, but we all saw the game for ourselves last night, we really struggled. | |
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 19:41 - Aug 9 with 139 views | Vic |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 16:25 - Aug 9 by LeoMuff |
It was a terrible performance -30% possession first half, we had no control whatsoever. |
Im not sure it was sub 30% possession at HT. BBC had it at about 35. Not great, unless that figure has been revised let's keep factual |  |
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| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 19:44 - Aug 9 with 129 views | tonybied |
| Good teams play badly but still pick up points- on 19:33 - Aug 9 by Chrisd |
I’m perfectly fine, what I don’t like is when it’s clear as day we didn’t play well, which we didn’t then you are entitled to voice that opinion. For me, Birmingham were the better side, wanted it more than us and when we equalised that came as a complete surprise! If that’s being disingenuous, then guilty as charged, but we all saw the game for ourselves last night, we really struggled. |
Trying to claim we weren't in the game is disingenuous, no team is EVER out of a game at 1-0 down! Despite Birmingham's dominance of the ball, they barely created anything clear-cut themselves. It was mainly possession for the sake of it, next to no penetration. They also tired as the match went on, and their manager make an odd decision to try and protect what they had. We were definitely more in the game, at that point, than any other. If anybody was likely to score in the last 10 minutes is was definitely more likely to have been us. | | | |
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