| "KM a one trick pony" 00:21 - Aug 24 with 1490 views | baxterbasics |
I'm getting a bit peed off seeing this said by so called fans around here and on other socials.
At the very least, it was a pretty good trick, no? |  |
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| "KM a one trick pony" on 01:21 - Aug 24 with 1310 views | stiff_talking |
McKenna plays shifting formations, player rotations, and likes space creators and space users. Anyone who thinks he is a one trick pony doesn’t understand the depth and detail of his coaching.
All we need to do is up tempo, play with confidence and fight for the badge. |  | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 09:11 - Aug 24 with 1019 views | billlm |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 01:21 - Aug 24 by stiff_talking |
McKenna plays shifting formations, player rotations, and likes space creators and space users. Anyone who thinks he is a one trick pony doesn’t understand the depth and detail of his coaching.
All we need to do is up tempo, play with confidence and fight for the badge. |
And start chaplin |  | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 09:39 - Aug 24 with 947 views | jasondozzell |
Glory hunters.
I remember after a game in 23/24 championship season ( it might have been West Brom) hearing some blokes in the cricketers saying things like 'Burns is a league one player, these lot aren't championship players, that's the issue' and being shocked at how ignorant a lot of so called fans are. A lot are here because we have been winning. If we go through tough times as a club again they would clear off right away. |  | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 09:47 - Aug 24 with 909 views | balticblue |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 09:39 - Aug 24 by jasondozzell |
Glory hunters.
I remember after a game in 23/24 championship season ( it might have been West Brom) hearing some blokes in the cricketers saying things like 'Burns is a league one player, these lot aren't championship players, that's the issue' and being shocked at how ignorant a lot of so called fans are. A lot are here because we have been winning. If we go through tough times as a club again they would clear off right away. |
I’m sorry, but your swipe at “glory hunters” is rather wide of the mark. I’ve been supporting town for over 50 years, through thick and thin (mainly thin), however, am I and others not allowed to be a little annoyed/disappointed in our form over the last 8 months or so? Especially given the huge investment both on and off the pitch. |  | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 09:55 - Aug 24 with 853 views | jasondozzell |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 09:47 - Aug 24 by balticblue |
I’m sorry, but your swipe at “glory hunters” is rather wide of the mark. I’ve been supporting town for over 50 years, through thick and thin (mainly thin), however, am I and others not allowed to be a little annoyed/disappointed in our form over the last 8 months or so? Especially given the huge investment both on and off the pitch. |
I'm not talking about people being slightly frustrated on the forum (although I think you'll have seen a lot lot worse in your fifty years and I think the last 8 months has to have the context attached. Hard to moan about what happened last season when you consider that.
I'm talking about those yesterday who were saying things like
Macateer you're sh*t after 2 touches
Calling our players c"'ts
Accusing Hirst of not putting any effort in
Screaming and shouting at KM and team at the end as it is was a 7-1 against Posh type result. [Post edited 24 Aug 9:56]
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| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:01 - Aug 24 with 825 views | darkhorse28 |
He’s clearly a fantastic coach. And yes 23/24 was exceptional, but second to Plymouth hasn’t aged great, but still couldn’t do much more.
It’s not his fault. He swell short on a lot of management traits to be elite…, bet he wished he’d joined Brighton, where he could coach and everything around him would support where he’s weak.
Ashton didn’t have a clue why we were succession, and so can’t even see where the failings are, neither of them can, but ven after 4 wins in 41 and THAT is as bigger failure as 23/24 was a success, maybe bigger.
We’ve spent £170 million, given the manager a champions league level pay day, and this group will be FAR worse than 23/24 where it counts, league tables and points.
The problem is, ‘supporters’ like you swallowed the kool aid.., you made McKenna and Ashton in to things they never were, and all the signs were there for a very long time, the strategy in McKennas own words ‘sign exclusively young English players, we know we couldn’t retain with or without success’
As good as he likely is at coaching (and those saying he’s regressed Clarke and Greaves and a few others) are correct, the group he built last season got progressively worse and he had a lot of time to it them…, but he clearly is a top coach and you can see the passion for that.
It’s not what builds elite performance teams though is it.
The one group he got a lot from, he didn’t build, Paul Cool did, and Sam especially was like winning the lottery for any manager.
He just can’t do all the strategic, and motivational side at a high enough level.
How good he is or isn’t as a coach, doesn’t matter, because the higher you go, the more important the things Awww do badly matter.
It’s in Ashton.
Should know where KM’s weaknesses are and mitigated them a LONG time ago- but it was blind faith from the owners (who aren’t football people) in just TWO people, and blind faith from Ashton.
We could win every game this season.., and we’d still have the same vacuum in leadership, strategy, vision, talent ID, planning, contingency, and execution.
There’s a reason those working closest with McKenna (a number of players now) have left.
They see the weaknesses every day, if Broadhead. Burgess, Tuenzabe and the players we had in the building that decided not to sign, were bought we had any chance they’d still be here.
As good as he is at some things, self awareness and knowing his own failings, defines whether he can succeed, and he and Ashton are VERY low on a trait that isn’t desirable, it’s essential at the sharp end.
Even Pep just brought in a coach with a completely different mindset and ethos to football to himself.
That’s what elite does.., it doesn’t repeat.., it adapts .
It was obvious we were strategically bankrupt when we gave a manger with ZERO top flight experience £150 million and a top champions league level contract.
We could have build a world class club for that level of investment.., and we didn’t have the courage, skill, strategic networks to do that.
It was always .., McKenna or bust.
And so bust was always the likely outcome.
Some have pointed out the obvious flaws for months and even years.
You hounded them out, abused them, called them scum and Norwich.
Yet the club would be much further forward if you opened your eyes.
We could have got a world class coach as wolves did.., and let Brighton take all the risk - they said he wasn’t worth champions league money, they were right, they usually are, that’s why they ARE elite. | | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:01 - Aug 24 with 830 views | balticblue |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 09:55 - Aug 24 by jasondozzell |
I'm not talking about people being slightly frustrated on the forum (although I think you'll have seen a lot lot worse in your fifty years and I think the last 8 months has to have the context attached. Hard to moan about what happened last season when you consider that.
I'm talking about those yesterday who were saying things like
Macateer you're sh*t after 2 touches
Calling our players c"'ts
Accusing Hirst of not putting any effort in
Screaming and shouting at KM and team at the end as it is was a 7-1 against Posh type result. [Post edited 24 Aug 9:56]
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Fair enough. Admittedly I was not at the game, so didn’t get to “enjoy” that behaviour.
I’ve live through the John Duncan years, so this is a mere blip! | | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:05 - Aug 24 with 818 views | jasondozzell |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:01 - Aug 24 by balticblue |
Fair enough. Admittedly I was not at the game, so didn’t get to “enjoy” that behaviour.
I’ve live through the John Duncan years, so this is a mere blip! |
Duncan years sound like they were uber grim!
In the end we all want it to work out this season. I think it will. Let's see. | | | |
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| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:12 - Aug 24 with 784 views | cressi |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 09:47 - Aug 24 by balticblue |
I’m sorry, but your swipe at “glory hunters” is rather wide of the mark. I’ve been supporting town for over 50 years, through thick and thin (mainly thin), however, am I and others not allowed to be a little annoyed/disappointed in our form over the last 8 months or so? Especially given the huge investment both on and off the pitch. |
I agree entirely. I've been going since 1970 so also seen good and bad. And this has been since January not three games read a stat 4 wins in over 40 games played. Players who were leaders and staff leaving over the summer.
All concerns. | | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:22 - Aug 24 with 740 views | OsmansCleanSheet |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:01 - Aug 24 by darkhorse28 |
He’s clearly a fantastic coach. And yes 23/24 was exceptional, but second to Plymouth hasn’t aged great, but still couldn’t do much more.
It’s not his fault. He swell short on a lot of management traits to be elite…, bet he wished he’d joined Brighton, where he could coach and everything around him would support where he’s weak.
Ashton didn’t have a clue why we were succession, and so can’t even see where the failings are, neither of them can, but ven after 4 wins in 41 and THAT is as bigger failure as 23/24 was a success, maybe bigger.
We’ve spent £170 million, given the manager a champions league level pay day, and this group will be FAR worse than 23/24 where it counts, league tables and points.
The problem is, ‘supporters’ like you swallowed the kool aid.., you made McKenna and Ashton in to things they never were, and all the signs were there for a very long time, the strategy in McKennas own words ‘sign exclusively young English players, we know we couldn’t retain with or without success’
As good as he likely is at coaching (and those saying he’s regressed Clarke and Greaves and a few others) are correct, the group he built last season got progressively worse and he had a lot of time to it them…, but he clearly is a top coach and you can see the passion for that.
It’s not what builds elite performance teams though is it.
The one group he got a lot from, he didn’t build, Paul Cool did, and Sam especially was like winning the lottery for any manager.
He just can’t do all the strategic, and motivational side at a high enough level.
How good he is or isn’t as a coach, doesn’t matter, because the higher you go, the more important the things Awww do badly matter.
It’s in Ashton.
Should know where KM’s weaknesses are and mitigated them a LONG time ago- but it was blind faith from the owners (who aren’t football people) in just TWO people, and blind faith from Ashton.
We could win every game this season.., and we’d still have the same vacuum in leadership, strategy, vision, talent ID, planning, contingency, and execution.
There’s a reason those working closest with McKenna (a number of players now) have left.
They see the weaknesses every day, if Broadhead. Burgess, Tuenzabe and the players we had in the building that decided not to sign, were bought we had any chance they’d still be here.
As good as he is at some things, self awareness and knowing his own failings, defines whether he can succeed, and he and Ashton are VERY low on a trait that isn’t desirable, it’s essential at the sharp end.
Even Pep just brought in a coach with a completely different mindset and ethos to football to himself.
That’s what elite does.., it doesn’t repeat.., it adapts .
It was obvious we were strategically bankrupt when we gave a manger with ZERO top flight experience £150 million and a top champions league level contract.
We could have build a world class club for that level of investment.., and we didn’t have the courage, skill, strategic networks to do that.
It was always .., McKenna or bust.
And so bust was always the likely outcome.
Some have pointed out the obvious flaws for months and even years.
You hounded them out, abused them, called them scum and Norwich.
Yet the club would be much further forward if you opened your eyes.
We could have got a world class coach as wolves did.., and let Brighton take all the risk - they said he wasn’t worth champions league money, they were right, they usually are, that’s why they ARE elite. |
Complete and utter tosh. |  | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:28 - Aug 24 with 706 views | TractorWood |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:22 - Aug 24 by OsmansCleanSheet |
Complete and utter tosh. |
The levels of investment are eye watering In KMcK and the squad. Not pi55ing this league is a massive problem for the club.
Obviously it's early days but it does appear like we've sold the best and are left with the expensive, average players who failed in the prem and have decent stats for average championship clubs. |  |
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| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:30 - Aug 24 with 687 views | blueoutlook |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 01:21 - Aug 24 by stiff_talking |
McKenna plays shifting formations, player rotations, and likes space creators and space users. Anyone who thinks he is a one trick pony doesn’t understand the depth and detail of his coaching.
All we need to do is up tempo, play with confidence and fight for the badge. |
Like shifting sands ? Very slowly! |  | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:40 - Aug 24 with 646 views | Suffolktractor |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:01 - Aug 24 by darkhorse28 |
He’s clearly a fantastic coach. And yes 23/24 was exceptional, but second to Plymouth hasn’t aged great, but still couldn’t do much more.
It’s not his fault. He swell short on a lot of management traits to be elite…, bet he wished he’d joined Brighton, where he could coach and everything around him would support where he’s weak.
Ashton didn’t have a clue why we were succession, and so can’t even see where the failings are, neither of them can, but ven after 4 wins in 41 and THAT is as bigger failure as 23/24 was a success, maybe bigger.
We’ve spent £170 million, given the manager a champions league level pay day, and this group will be FAR worse than 23/24 where it counts, league tables and points.
The problem is, ‘supporters’ like you swallowed the kool aid.., you made McKenna and Ashton in to things they never were, and all the signs were there for a very long time, the strategy in McKennas own words ‘sign exclusively young English players, we know we couldn’t retain with or without success’
As good as he likely is at coaching (and those saying he’s regressed Clarke and Greaves and a few others) are correct, the group he built last season got progressively worse and he had a lot of time to it them…, but he clearly is a top coach and you can see the passion for that.
It’s not what builds elite performance teams though is it.
The one group he got a lot from, he didn’t build, Paul Cool did, and Sam especially was like winning the lottery for any manager.
He just can’t do all the strategic, and motivational side at a high enough level.
How good he is or isn’t as a coach, doesn’t matter, because the higher you go, the more important the things Awww do badly matter.
It’s in Ashton.
Should know where KM’s weaknesses are and mitigated them a LONG time ago- but it was blind faith from the owners (who aren’t football people) in just TWO people, and blind faith from Ashton.
We could win every game this season.., and we’d still have the same vacuum in leadership, strategy, vision, talent ID, planning, contingency, and execution.
There’s a reason those working closest with McKenna (a number of players now) have left.
They see the weaknesses every day, if Broadhead. Burgess, Tuenzabe and the players we had in the building that decided not to sign, were bought we had any chance they’d still be here.
As good as he is at some things, self awareness and knowing his own failings, defines whether he can succeed, and he and Ashton are VERY low on a trait that isn’t desirable, it’s essential at the sharp end.
Even Pep just brought in a coach with a completely different mindset and ethos to football to himself.
That’s what elite does.., it doesn’t repeat.., it adapts .
It was obvious we were strategically bankrupt when we gave a manger with ZERO top flight experience £150 million and a top champions league level contract.
We could have build a world class club for that level of investment.., and we didn’t have the courage, skill, strategic networks to do that.
It was always .., McKenna or bust.
And so bust was always the likely outcome.
Some have pointed out the obvious flaws for months and even years.
You hounded them out, abused them, called them scum and Norwich.
Yet the club would be much further forward if you opened your eyes.
We could have got a world class coach as wolves did.., and let Brighton take all the risk - they said he wasn’t worth champions league money, they were right, they usually are, that’s why they ARE elite. |
You really need to work on your grammar and spelling. | | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:46 - Aug 24 with 612 views | OsmansCleanSheet |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:28 - Aug 24 by TractorWood |
The levels of investment are eye watering In KMcK and the squad. Not pi55ing this league is a massive problem for the club.
Obviously it's early days but it does appear like we've sold the best and are left with the expensive, average players who failed in the prem and have decent stats for average championship clubs. |
I get that, but we have to give it a bit more time after a rebuild (with 2 or 3 still to come in hopefully). If we’re still in the same situation after 10 games, then maybe it’s time to worry.
I’m not sure KmcK would’ve had an awful lot to do with a lot of the 23/24 team leaving. He certainly would’ve liked to have kept hold of Morsy and one or two others, I’m sure. He would’ve had a big say in the purchases though and there are clearly a lot of question marks there at the moment. He’ll no doubt live or die by those decisions. [Post edited 24 Aug 10:48]
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| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:47 - Aug 24 with 603 views | AlexMathie |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:01 - Aug 24 by darkhorse28 |
He’s clearly a fantastic coach. And yes 23/24 was exceptional, but second to Plymouth hasn’t aged great, but still couldn’t do much more.
It’s not his fault. He swell short on a lot of management traits to be elite…, bet he wished he’d joined Brighton, where he could coach and everything around him would support where he’s weak.
Ashton didn’t have a clue why we were succession, and so can’t even see where the failings are, neither of them can, but ven after 4 wins in 41 and THAT is as bigger failure as 23/24 was a success, maybe bigger.
We’ve spent £170 million, given the manager a champions league level pay day, and this group will be FAR worse than 23/24 where it counts, league tables and points.
The problem is, ‘supporters’ like you swallowed the kool aid.., you made McKenna and Ashton in to things they never were, and all the signs were there for a very long time, the strategy in McKennas own words ‘sign exclusively young English players, we know we couldn’t retain with or without success’
As good as he likely is at coaching (and those saying he’s regressed Clarke and Greaves and a few others) are correct, the group he built last season got progressively worse and he had a lot of time to it them…, but he clearly is a top coach and you can see the passion for that.
It’s not what builds elite performance teams though is it.
The one group he got a lot from, he didn’t build, Paul Cool did, and Sam especially was like winning the lottery for any manager.
He just can’t do all the strategic, and motivational side at a high enough level.
How good he is or isn’t as a coach, doesn’t matter, because the higher you go, the more important the things Awww do badly matter.
It’s in Ashton.
Should know where KM’s weaknesses are and mitigated them a LONG time ago- but it was blind faith from the owners (who aren’t football people) in just TWO people, and blind faith from Ashton.
We could win every game this season.., and we’d still have the same vacuum in leadership, strategy, vision, talent ID, planning, contingency, and execution.
There’s a reason those working closest with McKenna (a number of players now) have left.
They see the weaknesses every day, if Broadhead. Burgess, Tuenzabe and the players we had in the building that decided not to sign, were bought we had any chance they’d still be here.
As good as he is at some things, self awareness and knowing his own failings, defines whether he can succeed, and he and Ashton are VERY low on a trait that isn’t desirable, it’s essential at the sharp end.
Even Pep just brought in a coach with a completely different mindset and ethos to football to himself.
That’s what elite does.., it doesn’t repeat.., it adapts .
It was obvious we were strategically bankrupt when we gave a manger with ZERO top flight experience £150 million and a top champions league level contract.
We could have build a world class club for that level of investment.., and we didn’t have the courage, skill, strategic networks to do that.
It was always .., McKenna or bust.
And so bust was always the likely outcome.
Some have pointed out the obvious flaws for months and even years.
You hounded them out, abused them, called them scum and Norwich.
Yet the club would be much further forward if you opened your eyes.
We could have got a world class coach as wolves did.., and let Brighton take all the risk - they said he wasn’t worth champions league money, they were right, they usually are, that’s why they ARE elite. |
Paul Cool 😎
One of the worst posts I’ve read on here. Utter garbage | |
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| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:52 - Aug 24 with 568 views | pointofblue |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:46 - Aug 24 by OsmansCleanSheet |
I get that, but we have to give it a bit more time after a rebuild (with 2 or 3 still to come in hopefully). If we’re still in the same situation after 10 games, then maybe it’s time to worry.
I’m not sure KmcK would’ve had an awful lot to do with a lot of the 23/24 team leaving. He certainly would’ve liked to have kept hold of Morsy and one or two others, I’m sure. He would’ve had a big say in the purchases though and there are clearly a lot of question marks there at the moment. He’ll no doubt live or die by those decisions. [Post edited 24 Aug 10:48]
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The likes of Woolfenden, Burgess and Broadhead have left, or want to leave, because they've been replaced by McKenna with expensive new toys who have failed to live up to both expectation and their transfer fee. So, to me, McKenna does have a lot to do with it, and it annoys me slightly when he comes out with "We really want to keep them..." because every action has proven otherwise. | |
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| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:54 - Aug 24 with 557 views | baxterbasics |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 09:55 - Aug 24 by jasondozzell |
I'm not talking about people being slightly frustrated on the forum (although I think you'll have seen a lot lot worse in your fifty years and I think the last 8 months has to have the context attached. Hard to moan about what happened last season when you consider that.
I'm talking about those yesterday who were saying things like
Macateer you're sh*t after 2 touches
Calling our players c"'ts
Accusing Hirst of not putting any effort in
Screaming and shouting at KM and team at the end as it is was a 7-1 against Posh type result. [Post edited 24 Aug 9:56]
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Or "the heart and soul has been ripped out the club" that's another favourite. Like seasonal player churn has never happened before or elsewhere. | |
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| "KM a one trick pony" on 11:06 - Aug 24 with 521 views | Vaughan8 |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:22 - Aug 24 by OsmansCleanSheet |
Complete and utter tosh. |
You summed it up well. I stop reading halfway through. Couldn't read more of that cr@p. | | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 11:38 - Aug 24 with 467 views | stonojnr |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 01:21 - Aug 24 by stiff_talking |
McKenna plays shifting formations, player rotations, and likes space creators and space users. Anyone who thinks he is a one trick pony doesn’t understand the depth and detail of his coaching.
All we need to do is up tempo, play with confidence and fight for the badge. |
remember in fairness youre dealing with people who believe playing a computer game makes them the 2nd coming in terms of worlds bestest football managers.
so its pointless trying to explain to them actually how we play or coach the team | | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 11:49 - Aug 24 with 426 views | MK1 |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 09:39 - Aug 24 by jasondozzell |
Glory hunters.
I remember after a game in 23/24 championship season ( it might have been West Brom) hearing some blokes in the cricketers saying things like 'Burns is a league one player, these lot aren't championship players, that's the issue' and being shocked at how ignorant a lot of so called fans are. A lot are here because we have been winning. If we go through tough times as a club again they would clear off right away. |
As a travelling fan of this great club for over 60 years, I think I have earnt the right to comment on them. I have no problem with KM or any of the players, but the investment has to be worth it.
Whilst we have signed undoubted up grades of who was here before, we ain't seeing the form or togetherness of the side before. I believe class will tell throughout the season and the cream will rise, but at the moment, I totally get the "glory hunters" having a bit of a pop.
I know I am old and times have changed, but for Ipswich Town to be spending the kind of money we have, I think it is fair to expect improvement. It will come I am sure of that, just can't wait to long as the gap will only grow. |  |
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| "KM a one trick pony" on 14:58 - Aug 24 with 299 views | longtimefan |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:47 - Aug 24 by AlexMathie |
Paul Cool 😎
One of the worst posts I’ve read on here. Utter garbage |
I asked an AI to summarise it for me and it just came back with “Tosh!” | | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 15:12 - Aug 24 with 272 views | blueoutlook |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:05 - Aug 24 by jasondozzell |
Duncan years sound like they were uber grim!
In the end we all want it to work out this season. I think it will. Let's see. |
The Duncan years were the pits. I lived through that. He got rid of our best player Dalian Atkinson, because he didn’t know how to manage him. That really was grim. I loved Dalian. Still one of my all time favourites. [Post edited 24 Aug 15:17]
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| "KM a one trick pony" on 16:01 - Aug 24 with 186 views | mellowblue |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 10:05 - Aug 24 by jasondozzell |
Duncan years sound like they were uber grim!
In the end we all want it to work out this season. I think it will. Let's see. |
In a way the Duncan years were less sad than the steady decline from the glory team under Ferguson. The Duncan team had some decent crop of players, but he could rarely get a tune out of them. | | | |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 16:09 - Aug 24 with 168 views | PioneerBlue |
Yes I nearly bit on the headline because it’s beginning to seriously pish me off too. We were pans last year. We were beaten nearly every week. We’ve had a massive turnover of players and the talent in the room is now some light years ahead of where we were when we arrive in the champ. For any self respecting supporter now is the time to dig deep and hold it together let off any frustration or disappointment that might arise over a long season and go with the flow. Loose the fans now and we start to unravel and we’ve been there before. That’s not saying stick by KMck forever, that’s saying there’s no divine right to get a song from a totally reengineered group and that just takes a bit of time. | |
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| "KM a one trick pony" on 16:22 - Aug 24 with 139 views | mellowblue |
| "KM a one trick pony" on 15:12 - Aug 24 by blueoutlook |
The Duncan years were the pits. I lived through that. He got rid of our best player Dalian Atkinson, because he didn’t know how to manage him. That really was grim. I loved Dalian. Still one of my all time favourites. [Post edited 24 Aug 15:17]
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Dalian was class, real shame he had the problems in later life and such a sad end. We were very much a selling club then and we had Kiwomya coming through. £450,000 was a decent sum in those days. I liked Kevin Wilson, he was sold 2 years earlier to Chelsea as Atkinson was coming, the next on the conveyor belt. Kiwomya and Atkinson, why are we not producing strikers like that now. | | | |
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