| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? 18:27 - Aug 30 with 2945 views | Blooos |
7 of the starting 11 were here last season, believe derby had 8 new players today. Is the same for most teams.
3 of the 4 games so far have been pi$$ poor and no getting around that. We have way too many good players on paper to be creating so little. |  | | |  |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:30 - Aug 30 with 1742 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Been poor in the games so far this season but we have still picked up three points. We are not clicking, or working overall but still more than good enough to get something out of games. Our quality now is not to be stiffed out and it's not like some of our main rivals(Soton/Shfef U) are pulling up trees at the minute either.
We're gonna be far too good for most of the teams in the league and I would've thought we'll see that shortly. I think we're still in the zone a bit of not being used to the favourites and we're gonna have to get used to the fact that teams will do to us, what Derby did today. |  |
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| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:31 - Aug 30 with 1731 views | bicester_blue |
Statistically we will need to break a record. No team with 3 points after round 4 has made top 2 in the last 10 seasons (haven’t checked back further). | | | |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:32 - Aug 30 with 1714 views | homer_123 |
It's almost like you haven't read any of the threads on here.
Apologies, not having a go.
I've posted on here that whilst it's correct to say a lot of the players are the same players as last season. However, what happened last season? The confidence and arrogance we played with was knocked out of us. So, we are having to rebuild that. It's a factor that plays an important part as to why what happened today did.
2 years ago, if we conceded (which we did) we wouldn't give a sh**. It wouldn't affect our confidence but after last season it rightly does.
It's a factor but an integral one and not one that can be easily coached.
It's the reason why 'patterns' of play are important so that when you aren't feeling 'confident' you still know what runs you should make and how your manager wants you to play etc. |  |
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| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:36 - Aug 30 with 1678 views | blueoutlook |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:30 - Aug 30 by JammyDodgerrr |
Been poor in the games so far this season but we have still picked up three points. We are not clicking, or working overall but still more than good enough to get something out of games. Our quality now is not to be stiffed out and it's not like some of our main rivals(Soton/Shfef U) are pulling up trees at the minute either.
We're gonna be far too good for most of the teams in the league and I would've thought we'll see that shortly. I think we're still in the zone a bit of not being used to the favourites and we're gonna have to get used to the fact that teams will do to us, what Derby did today. |
We are too lightweight. They physically aren’t strong enough. A feather would knock a lot of them down. Ashton promised different type of players this season. Physical,athletic etc… I fail to see any of that in our signings. |  | | |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:36 - Aug 30 with 1682 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:32 - Aug 30 by homer_123 |
It's almost like you haven't read any of the threads on here.
Apologies, not having a go.
I've posted on here that whilst it's correct to say a lot of the players are the same players as last season. However, what happened last season? The confidence and arrogance we played with was knocked out of us. So, we are having to rebuild that. It's a factor that plays an important part as to why what happened today did.
2 years ago, if we conceded (which we did) we wouldn't give a sh**. It wouldn't affect our confidence but after last season it rightly does.
It's a factor but an integral one and not one that can be easily coached.
It's the reason why 'patterns' of play are important so that when you aren't feeling 'confident' you still know what runs you should make and how your manager wants you to play etc. |
We’ve got one point from Derby and Preston. Talent alone should be enough to be seeing off today’s opposition at home with ease after taking a lead. They have more new players starting than us by the way.
Leicester have basically clawed back their apparent points deduction (if they ever get one) back on us. There should be some alarm bells. |  |
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| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:36 - Aug 30 with 1681 views | bluejacko |
Right so when they go across the line and b@llocks it up it’s Mckennas fault? | | | |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:37 - Aug 30 with 1672 views | homer_123 |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:36 - Aug 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
We’ve got one point from Derby and Preston. Talent alone should be enough to be seeing off today’s opposition at home with ease after taking a lead. They have more new players starting than us by the way.
Leicester have basically clawed back their apparent points deduction (if they ever get one) back on us. There should be some alarm bells. |
No panic stations needed just yet. | |
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| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:38 - Aug 30 with 1659 views | blueoutlook |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:36 - Aug 30 by bluejacko |
Right so when they go across the line and b@llocks it up it’s Mckennas fault? |
He picks the team. His tactics no ? | | | |
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| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:38 - Aug 30 with 1653 views | GavTWTD |
When it's no longer true. |  |
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| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:39 - Aug 30 with 1641 views | homer_123 |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:38 - Aug 30 by blueoutlook |
He picks the team. His tactics no ? |
He does but does he make the decision for our Centre Back to bring the ball down instead of heading it?
KM gives freedom within the way he sets us out for players to make their own decisions. | |
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| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:40 - Aug 30 with 1628 views | _clive_baker_ |
It’s probably a bit easier to ‘gel’ when your only instruction is to sit on the floor at every opportunity to be fair. If you’re expected to play some fluid football it might take a touch longer. |  | | |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:42 - Aug 30 with 1614 views | Blooos |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:36 - Aug 30 by blueoutlook |
We are too lightweight. They physically aren’t strong enough. A feather would knock a lot of them down. Ashton promised different type of players this season. Physical,athletic etc… I fail to see any of that in our signings. |
Hopefully next game Akpom and Egeli are starting behind the striker. They’re both 6ft I believe so would add some physicality. | | | |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:42 - Aug 30 with 1611 views | HighgateBlue |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:31 - Aug 30 by bicester_blue |
Statistically we will need to break a record. No team with 3 points after round 4 has made top 2 in the last 10 seasons (haven’t checked back further). |
Absolutely. And yet there are comments that our squad is the best in the league, and that we shouldn't take top six now because we're good enough for top 2. These notions are embarrassingly conceited, have no respect for our opponents, and no respect for the arithmetic of how this league works.
In a league where supposedly anyone can beat anyone, we don't seem to be able to beat anyone. We have no divine right to, either.
Right now I'm praying that Egeli is the second coming. Based on his goal on Monday, it's actually possible that he might be. |  | | |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:42 - Aug 30 with 1610 views | pointofblue |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:39 - Aug 30 by homer_123 |
He does but does he make the decision for our Centre Back to bring the ball down instead of heading it?
KM gives freedom within the way he sets us out for players to make their own decisions. |
He's the one who chooses the centre backs. | |
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| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:44 - Aug 30 with 1592 views | Blooos |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:42 - Aug 30 by pointofblue |
He's the one who chooses the centre backs. |
I’m not suggesting McKenna is the problem and absolutely wouldn’t even think about replacing him. But he’s also the manager of the most valuable squad in the league, 3 points from 4 games and not a single goal from open play (other than an own goal). | | | |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:45 - Aug 30 with 1566 views | ITFCSG |
We dispatched Derby easily in L1 home and away.
Close to £120 million net spending later we need a 106th minute penalty to beat them at home.
Progress? | | | |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:53 - Aug 30 with 1525 views | jasondozzell |
Maybe until the six players that have only arrived recently have more than days to get used to new surroundings, new team mates and new patterns of play. |  | | |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:59 - Aug 30 with 1477 views | blueoutlook |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:53 - Aug 30 by jasondozzell |
Maybe until the six players that have only arrived recently have more than days to get used to new surroundings, new team mates and new patterns of play. |
Derby had 8 new ones today I believe. We can’t keep making that excuse. Most of the team we fielded today were here last season anyway. | | | |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 19:00 - Aug 30 with 1462 views | homer_123 |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:59 - Aug 30 by blueoutlook |
Derby had 8 new ones today I believe. We can’t keep making that excuse. Most of the team we fielded today were here last season anyway. |
What happened last season? | |
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| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 19:03 - Aug 30 with 1440 views | bsw72 |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:59 - Aug 30 by blueoutlook |
Derby had 8 new ones today I believe. We can’t keep making that excuse. Most of the team we fielded today were here last season anyway. |
Derby didn’t try to play though. They feigned injury, lumped the ball forward and time wasted.
You don’t have to gel as a team if the aim is to disrupt the opposition and not play football. |  | | |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 19:14 - Aug 30 with 1369 views | jasondozzell |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:59 - Aug 30 by blueoutlook |
Derby had 8 new ones today I believe. We can’t keep making that excuse. Most of the team we fielded today were here last season anyway. |
How many patterns of play did you see from Derby?
Did all 8 arrive in the last few days/1-2 weeks? | | | |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 19:16 - Aug 30 with 1355 views | jasondozzell |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 18:59 - Aug 30 by blueoutlook |
Derby had 8 new ones today I believe. We can’t keep making that excuse. Most of the team we fielded today were here last season anyway. |
And although I agree results will need to improve (they will) the idea that the team all played together last season isn't true either.
Clarke and Philogene still count as new arrivals in my eyes. Lots of new combos and relationships in that team. | | | |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 19:18 - Aug 30 with 1323 views | pointofblue |
| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 19:16 - Aug 30 by jasondozzell |
And although I agree results will need to improve (they will) the idea that the team all played together last season isn't true either.
Clarke and Philogene still count as new arrivals in my eyes. Lots of new combos and relationships in that team. |
Clarke counts as a new signing? He joined us last August! | |
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| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 19:24 - Aug 30 with 1269 views | Whos_blue |
Err.... until they've gelled?
4 new players this week. Although it can't be used as an excuse for ever, I think until the end of September feels reasonable.
A bit of patience from us will help.
Heard a few C bombs thrown today. Mainly at Hirst and Philogene. Never understood how that helps. |  |
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| How long do we keep going with the ‘new team has to gel’ gimmick? on 19:26 - Aug 30 with 1236 views | Coastalblue |
It's all about nuance isn't it? The world isn't actually all in black or white despite what appears to be the current trend for well everything.
We are looking to play a type of football that takes time and intelligence to implement, using systems and tactics that take time and intelligence to understand.
When we get there then I suspect sides like derby will be brushed aside, but it will take time. If we decided to play 442 and just buy the best lump in each position then it would all happen a lot faster but with a much lower ceiling, and yes I don't deny there's perhaps an argument for that in this division, same as there's an argument for saying when it does start to come together we might be too far back but that is our process, and as we've seen, it works. |  |
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