| Sooner or later in the next few days... 08:30 - Sep 7 with 1860 views | muccletonjoe |
Thoughts are going to turn to the starting 11 for friday.
While I don't forsee loads of change, I think maybe one or two will be making debuts.
The back four and goalkeeper apart from right back , will be the usual which takes no guessing at all , barring injuries. Surely Furlong will be playing friday, it strengthens the defence and it is the position he was bought for.
Midfield will surely be Matusiwa and Cajuste, no matter if we have Nunez waiting in the wings. Those two looked like the one success of the Derby game.
It's after that things get difficult. Will Hirst keep his place ( i think so) , will Egeli play( again, i think so) maybe Akpom will get a place and maybe Clarke will too.
Alot of maybes there, but we certainly need the pace injected into the team and once there we need to use it to good effect |  | | |  |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 08:37 - Sep 7 with 1792 views | SheffordBlue |
It's certainly going to be interesting.
I personally think it's unlikely that Egeli starts. He plays on Tuesday for Norway's U21s and even if he flies back that night will only get a couple of training sessions in with the squad. It's a big ask to put a young player straight in when he's stepping up a level and in a different country. I think he'll be slowly introduced from the bench as we did with Omari when he came on loan.
Furlong versus Young will be an interesting one. Thought the latter has been one of the louder leadership voices on the field so far and technically the best player on the pitch.
Think maybe Akpom is the most likely to get a start. Szmodics has been away on international duty and will only get back on Wednesday while Akpom has been here throughout the break. |  |
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| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 08:48 - Sep 7 with 1723 views | Daninthecampo |
Akpom and Azon to start, they've had 2 weeks training together, the forwards who've been away on international duty to come on 2nd half subs | | | |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 08:53 - Sep 7 with 1681 views | WeWereZombies |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 08:37 - Sep 7 by SheffordBlue |
It's certainly going to be interesting.
I personally think it's unlikely that Egeli starts. He plays on Tuesday for Norway's U21s and even if he flies back that night will only get a couple of training sessions in with the squad. It's a big ask to put a young player straight in when he's stepping up a level and in a different country. I think he'll be slowly introduced from the bench as we did with Omari when he came on loan.
Furlong versus Young will be an interesting one. Thought the latter has been one of the louder leadership voices on the field so far and technically the best player on the pitch.
Think maybe Akpom is the most likely to get a start. Szmodics has been away on international duty and will only get back on Wednesday while Akpom has been here throughout the break. |
Similarly if Hirst plays ninety minutes against Belarus tomorrow (and I suspect it will be a bruising ninety minutes if he does) then it may be the game for Azon to start and Hirst to replace him for the final half hour.
Núñez will be returning from injury so best not to start him but longer term, and I know it's unlikely given MCKenna's preferred system, a midfield three would not be a bad idea (with Taylor and/or Humphreys frequent substitutions in games when legs get tired, or tactics demand or injuries happen.) |  |
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| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 09:58 - Sep 7 with 1438 views | Guthrum |
Think most likely McAtee on the right, with Walle Egeli off the bench. Similarly Akpom/Szmodics centrally and Philogene/Clarke on the left. Azon replacing Hirst after 60/70 minutes, or maybe the other way around.
Nunez for Cajuste being the other tactical sub. Maybe Young for Furlong instead of one of the forwards.
But all bets are off, there have been so many changes and a lot will be worked on in training for McKenna to make a judgement. |  |
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| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 10:04 - Sep 7 with 1411 views | Guthrum |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 08:53 - Sep 7 by WeWereZombies |
Similarly if Hirst plays ninety minutes against Belarus tomorrow (and I suspect it will be a bruising ninety minutes if he does) then it may be the game for Azon to start and Hirst to replace him for the final half hour.
Núñez will be returning from injury so best not to start him but longer term, and I know it's unlikely given MCKenna's preferred system, a midfield three would not be a bad idea (with Taylor and/or Humphreys frequent substitutions in games when legs get tired, or tactics demand or injuries happen.) |
I think we've hired too many forwards to indicate McKenna is planning to play three in midfield. Plus it's the attack in and around the opposition box we need to get working (particularly shooting on target), more so than further down the pitch. | |
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| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 10:15 - Sep 7 with 1365 views | WeWereZombies |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 10:04 - Sep 7 by Guthrum |
I think we've hired too many forwards to indicate McKenna is planning to play three in midfield. Plus it's the attack in and around the opposition box we need to get working (particularly shooting on target), more so than further down the pitch. |
The Highland League game I watched yesterday was between two teams that the BBC had as set up 4-2-3-1 on the Lineups drop down. True the standard isn't English second tier skill levels but nonetheless there was a familiar pattern of midfield being bypassed and a lot of competition along the wings. The double pivot was not much in evidence, maybe Matusiwa and Cajuste will complement their obvious individual skills with more authority over games as the season progresses but I wonder if the rug needs to be pulled from under this ubiquitous approach. A midfield three may be the answer to having an overrriding control in games. | |
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| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 10:36 - Sep 7 with 1275 views | unstableblue |
Palmer
Young OShea Greaves Davis
Azor Cajuste
McAteer Szmodics Philogene
Hirst
It’s all about settling now, so minimal change |  |
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| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 11:08 - Sep 7 with 1137 views | muccletonjoe |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 10:15 - Sep 7 by WeWereZombies |
The Highland League game I watched yesterday was between two teams that the BBC had as set up 4-2-3-1 on the Lineups drop down. True the standard isn't English second tier skill levels but nonetheless there was a familiar pattern of midfield being bypassed and a lot of competition along the wings. The double pivot was not much in evidence, maybe Matusiwa and Cajuste will complement their obvious individual skills with more authority over games as the season progresses but I wonder if the rug needs to be pulled from under this ubiquitous approach. A midfield three may be the answer to having an overrriding control in games. |
I think a midfield 3 is at least worth s try alongside a front 2 | | | |
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| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 11:10 - Sep 7 with 1121 views | BasingstokeBlue |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 11:08 - Sep 7 by muccletonjoe |
I think a midfield 3 is at least worth s try alongside a front 2 |
Where would you put the 10th outfield player? |  |
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| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 11:19 - Sep 7 with 1061 views | TractorJack |
Reckon it'll just be Chuba in for Chaplin. |  | | |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 11:30 - Sep 7 with 1019 views | Everydayblue |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 10:15 - Sep 7 by WeWereZombies |
The Highland League game I watched yesterday was between two teams that the BBC had as set up 4-2-3-1 on the Lineups drop down. True the standard isn't English second tier skill levels but nonetheless there was a familiar pattern of midfield being bypassed and a lot of competition along the wings. The double pivot was not much in evidence, maybe Matusiwa and Cajuste will complement their obvious individual skills with more authority over games as the season progresses but I wonder if the rug needs to be pulled from under this ubiquitous approach. A midfield three may be the answer to having an overrriding control in games. |
Can't see us playing a MF 3, unless we are comfortably ahead and trying to see a game out in the last 10 minutes.
We haven't got the depth in CM. To start and replace 3 CM
We've got an abundance of wide players. (That cost good money)
we've never done it before under KM
We are at home, to a side that is on their knees atm. And we should be attacking them with a forward thinking formation..
Personally, with the shocking start SU have had. I can see them parking the bus and offering little going forwards.
Our squad has been put together, to try and build a better version of what we had before, in the usual 4231, that is tweaked in game, where KM deems fit....
I'd say we do have some new additions that add slightly different profiles in the forward area. Which could make us less predictable, once we are settled .
Just my op'. | | | |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 11:35 - Sep 7 with 995 views | _clive_baker_ |
Akpom to start.
Hirst will start.
Egeli & Azon on the bench.
Nunez on the bench maybe depending on fitness.
Palmer
Furlong O’Shea Greaves Davis
Matusiwa Cajuste
Philogene Akpom Clarke
Hirst [Post edited 7 Sep 12:36]
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| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 11:45 - Sep 7 with 934 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 11:30 - Sep 7 by Everydayblue |
Can't see us playing a MF 3, unless we are comfortably ahead and trying to see a game out in the last 10 minutes.
We haven't got the depth in CM. To start and replace 3 CM
We've got an abundance of wide players. (That cost good money)
we've never done it before under KM
We are at home, to a side that is on their knees atm. And we should be attacking them with a forward thinking formation..
Personally, with the shocking start SU have had. I can see them parking the bus and offering little going forwards.
Our squad has been put together, to try and build a better version of what we had before, in the usual 4231, that is tweaked in game, where KM deems fit....
I'd say we do have some new additions that add slightly different profiles in the forward area. Which could make us less predictable, once we are settled .
Just my op'. |
Would a 3 man centre mid not effectively develop towards our current formation as we kick on anyway?
I'm not sure what a third centre mid would do, wouldn't they push forward to support the front 3? It's not like we need 3 blockers at this level stopping rampaging forward players.
I'm probably missing a tactical masterstroke and by no means do I know what I'm talking about, but it seems like we'd be playing a slightly deeper 10 at best? More possession? I didn't think that was the problem. To me we need the players up the pitch and quicker turnovers and slicker movement. 3 in the middle would give less attacking options around the box, no?
Not aimed at the specific post I'm replying to by the way. Just wittering on! |  | | |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 11:51 - Sep 7 with 910 views | strikalite |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 10:36 - Sep 7 by unstableblue |
Palmer
Young OShea Greaves Davis
Azor Cajuste
McAteer Szmodics Philogene
Hirst
It’s all about settling now, so minimal change |
Agree, make changes from there on say 65/70mins, the squad haven't been together this week, it's a tough game and it's too much of a risk to make big changes right now I think.. |  | | |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 12:21 - Sep 7 with 790 views | pointofblue |
Palmer
Furlong - O'Shea - Greaves - Davis
Matusiwa - Cajuste
McAteer - Akpom - Clarke
Azon
Subs: Walton, Young, Kipre, Nunez, Taylor, Johnson, Egeli, Philogene, Hirst | |
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| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 12:26 - Sep 7 with 752 views | unstableblue |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 11:51 - Sep 7 by strikalite |
Agree, make changes from there on say 65/70mins, the squad haven't been together this week, it's a tough game and it's too much of a risk to make big changes right now I think.. |
Akpom for Szmodics if he’s injured
With Sammie out… I was thinking who are the 3/4 attacking subs on 70mins
Egeli, Azon, Clarke?
Humphreys? Nunez if fit?
Feels lighter than expected with Szmodics out | |
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| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 12:26 - Sep 7 with 745 views | Everydayblue |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 11:45 - Sep 7 by Axeldalai_lama |
Would a 3 man centre mid not effectively develop towards our current formation as we kick on anyway?
I'm not sure what a third centre mid would do, wouldn't they push forward to support the front 3? It's not like we need 3 blockers at this level stopping rampaging forward players.
I'm probably missing a tactical masterstroke and by no means do I know what I'm talking about, but it seems like we'd be playing a slightly deeper 10 at best? More possession? I didn't think that was the problem. To me we need the players up the pitch and quicker turnovers and slicker movement. 3 in the middle would give less attacking options around the box, no?
Not aimed at the specific post I'm replying to by the way. Just wittering on! |
Yeah, I guess Cajuste and Nunez would fit the box to box roles in a 3. With Matusiwa holding?
But there's little cover (60 minute rotation) for either. When both are an injury waiting to happen, imo.(imo both have to be managed a little in terms of injuries/fitness)
And unless they are bombing up the pitch, we'd lose the link up from a central 10. Assuming we are playing 2 wide men and 1 CF... The likes of Szmodic and Akpom would be benched if Hirst starts.?
Who knows, maybe KM has something going on behind the scenes?
But I just don't see too many "eyebrow raising" changes to our formation, atm, at least.
I did, initially think that Nunez might be employed as a deeper lying 10, when he was signed. But the lack of MF signings has me thinking we'll stick with 2 as a pivot.
Ideally, I'd rather see us with 1 holding MF'er, and more bodies in their third, as we settle and hopefully dominate more games...... These teams that are parking the bus, need a bit more guile to unlock them. A Nunez or a Cajuste further up the pitch (or even a Taylor or Humphry's, which I believe play their best football in the final third), might be the answer. As Taylor proved by causing some confusion and winning a penalty, vs Derby.
Ultimately, though. KM usually evolves with the game. And what we see on a team sheet. Is rarely how we finish games.
I'm just thinking out loud, too, btw. | | | |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 12:53 - Sep 7 with 627 views | FrimleyBlue |
Palmer
Furlong
Oshea
Greaves
Davis
Matusiwa
Cajuste
Clarke
Akpom
Philogene
Hirst
What I reckon it'll be |  |
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| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 12:58 - Sep 7 with 601 views | Everydayblue |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 12:53 - Sep 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Palmer
Furlong
Oshea
Greaves
Davis
Matusiwa
Cajuste
Clarke
Akpom
Philogene
Hirst
What I reckon it'll be |
Me too, assuming no knocks... | | | |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 12:59 - Sep 7 with 594 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 12:26 - Sep 7 by Everydayblue |
Yeah, I guess Cajuste and Nunez would fit the box to box roles in a 3. With Matusiwa holding?
But there's little cover (60 minute rotation) for either. When both are an injury waiting to happen, imo.(imo both have to be managed a little in terms of injuries/fitness)
And unless they are bombing up the pitch, we'd lose the link up from a central 10. Assuming we are playing 2 wide men and 1 CF... The likes of Szmodic and Akpom would be benched if Hirst starts.?
Who knows, maybe KM has something going on behind the scenes?
But I just don't see too many "eyebrow raising" changes to our formation, atm, at least.
I did, initially think that Nunez might be employed as a deeper lying 10, when he was signed. But the lack of MF signings has me thinking we'll stick with 2 as a pivot.
Ideally, I'd rather see us with 1 holding MF'er, and more bodies in their third, as we settle and hopefully dominate more games...... These teams that are parking the bus, need a bit more guile to unlock them. A Nunez or a Cajuste further up the pitch (or even a Taylor or Humphry's, which I believe play their best football in the final third), might be the answer. As Taylor proved by causing some confusion and winning a penalty, vs Derby.
Ultimately, though. KM usually evolves with the game. And what we see on a team sheet. Is rarely how we finish games.
I'm just thinking out loud, too, btw. |
Agree with all that really.
I wonder whether once up to speed we can try and drag a few roles into hybrid. As you say push one of the double pivot a bit further up especially if we're playing teams set up to block. Maybe have a defender push into that midfield to plug that gap. Or a Tuanzebe type with furlong maybe that coming across to a back 3 and Davis freed up.
Glad I'm not a football manager as it's very finely balance a d intricate. But this I think is where McKenna has excelled, bedding in the entire team to know exactly what they all need to do in systems. All of those little hybrid switches to give us more bodies and space. Maybe also as you say Nunez hybrid as a 10 but also dropping off towards the centre mid and then bombing on.
All of these little swaps and changes need to be drummed into them all and become second nature and is part of the gelling we hear so much about. It's easy to dismiss and get frustrated, but compared to a bog standard 442 old school where you can drop in players who have never met their team mates it's night and day. | | | |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 13:08 - Sep 7 with 530 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I would like to see Akpom start.
He has the physicality and the skillset I think we have been missing in that role so far.
Szmodics runs his socks off, no doubt. Im not sure he offers much at all on the ball aside from finishing. |  |
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| Think McKenna will start McAteer*… and perhaps Young on 13:11 - Sep 7 with 508 views | unstableblue |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 12:53 - Sep 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Palmer
Furlong
Oshea
Greaves
Davis
Matusiwa
Cajuste
Clarke
Akpom
Philogene
Hirst
What I reckon it'll be |
For Furlong and Clarke in your line-up
Egeli, Clarke and Azon as the impact attacking subs.
*note McAteer is not on the squad page on the Ipswich app | |
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| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 14:32 - Sep 7 with 288 views | blueoutlook |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 10:36 - Sep 7 by unstableblue |
Palmer
Young OShea Greaves Davis
Azor Cajuste
McAteer Szmodics Philogene
Hirst
It’s all about settling now, so minimal change |
That forward line looks woefully cr@p. I’m really not seeing goals there. A lot of money spent,but no return! |  | | |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 14:55 - Sep 7 with 226 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 14:32 - Sep 7 by blueoutlook |
That forward line looks woefully cr@p. I’m really not seeing goals there. A lot of money spent,but no return! |
Woefully crap is very very harsh. Though I do admit at this point in time it's strangely inadequate and lacks cutting edge. A few goals and decent games and that could easily be one of the best attacking set ups in the league. Especially given the finishing four who would replace them or vice versa. | | | |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 16:14 - Sep 7 with 23 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Sooner or later in the next few days... on 11:10 - Sep 7 by BasingstokeBlue |
Where would you put the 10th outfield player? |
Start 4-3-2 and sneak the 11th player on when their manager isn't paying attention. Got to be worth a try! |  |
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