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Oh Mandy! 23:04 - Sep 9 with 2447 viewsWhos_blue

BBC News - Mandelson called Epstein 'best pal' in birthday message
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy9dwe50leo


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Oh Mandy! on 23:14 - Sep 9 with 2037 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Colour me shocked!!

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Oh Mandy! on 07:56 - Sep 10 with 1601 viewsSwansea_Blue

Someone needs to blow this wide open. The victims are still pushing, but they’re not going to get anywhere on their own.

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Oh Mandy! on 08:39 - Sep 10 with 1525 viewsBloomBlue

..and more embarrassing revelations to come
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Oh Mandy! on 08:59 - Sep 10 with 1503 viewsRadlett_blue

Oh Mandy! on 08:39 - Sep 10 by BloomBlue

..and more embarrassing revelations to come


yes, like Prince Andrew, Mandelson continued to stay at Epstein's properties even after the latter's conviction for soliciting prostitution from a minor, so his "I wish I'd never met him" cry doesn't sound so convincing.
Starmer is giving Mandelson his "full backing". Oh, dear!

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Oh Mandy! on 09:33 - Sep 10 with 1417 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Oh Mandy! on 08:59 - Sep 10 by Radlett_blue

yes, like Prince Andrew, Mandelson continued to stay at Epstein's properties even after the latter's conviction for soliciting prostitution from a minor, so his "I wish I'd never met him" cry doesn't sound so convincing.
Starmer is giving Mandelson his "full backing". Oh, dear!


2 tier......etc...

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Oh Mandy! on 09:35 - Sep 10 with 1414 viewsGuthrum

Think of those gangster films/shows, where everybody is fawning sycophantically over the big bosses and tough guys, buttering them up, willing to do almost anything to please, while dreaming of stabbing them in the back.

Not too dissimilar here. Epstein was one of the rich and carefully generous people who, in exchange for flattery and favours, would supply the abundant money politicians and fixers crave (and need to support their careers).

Costs little to write nice things in a birthday card, but cutting someone off - however dubious - is going to interrupt the cashflow.

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Oh Mandy! on 10:37 - Sep 10 with 1316 viewsjayessess

Thing is Mandelson's closeness to Epstein has been well-established fact for a very long time. That he visited the island multiple times, had a close friendship with him etc. etc.

It's astonishing that Starmer decided not just to seek him out privately as an advisor, let alone appoint him formally to a prestigious role.

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Oh Mandy! on 10:42 - Sep 10 with 1276 viewsflykickingbybgunn

Oh Mandy! on 10:37 - Sep 10 by jayessess

Thing is Mandelson's closeness to Epstein has been well-established fact for a very long time. That he visited the island multiple times, had a close friendship with him etc. etc.

It's astonishing that Starmer decided not just to seek him out privately as an advisor, let alone appoint him formally to a prestigious role.


Is this the person that we would want to represent us to the Yanks ?
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Oh Mandy! on 10:51 - Sep 10 with 1193 viewsblueasfook

Some disturbing things in that birthday book wrote by Mandelson. KS needs to get rid of him pronto. Rayner had to resign for not paying a bit of tax. This guy hung out with a convicted paedo and sex trafficker.

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Oh Mandy! on 11:05 - Sep 10 with 1123 viewsjayessess

Oh Mandy! on 10:42 - Sep 10 by flykickingbybgunn

Is this the person that we would want to represent us to the Yanks ?


It's both bad on its merits and also just politically idiotic.

One aspect of British political life is just how much politics is about the press/political elite just choosing to properly notice things or not. For whatever reason there's been an awful lot of 'not noticing' things that Peter Mandelson has done that make him unfit for any public office (not just Epstein but connections with Putin and various other tyrants, alongside all the business dealings when he was actually in office under Blair).

Why send him to the USA, where no such convention where you should just 'not notice' all this stuff because Mandelson is one of the establishment exists?

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Oh Mandy! on 12:16 - Sep 10 with 970 viewsDJR

With his penchant for mixing with the international jet set, it's as if this song were written for him.

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Oh Mandy! on 12:20 - Sep 10 with 952 viewsSwailsey

Oh Mandy! on 10:51 - Sep 10 by blueasfook

Some disturbing things in that birthday book wrote by Mandelson. KS needs to get rid of him pronto. Rayner had to resign for not paying a bit of tax. This guy hung out with a convicted paedo and sex trafficker.


Absolutely this.

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Oh Mandy! on 12:34 - Sep 10 with 895 viewsMattinLondon

Oh Mandy! on 12:20 - Sep 10 by Swailsey

Absolutely this.


I haven’t read the finer details of this story - but at the time did PM know that Epstein was a serious sexual offender?
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Oh Mandy! on 12:36 - Sep 10 with 886 viewsjayessess

Oh Mandy! on 12:34 - Sep 10 by MattinLondon

I haven’t read the finer details of this story - but at the time did PM know that Epstein was a serious sexual offender?


Yes. Their relationship continued post-conviction.

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Oh Mandy! on 12:41 - Sep 10 with 873 viewsMattinLondon

Oh Mandy! on 12:36 - Sep 10 by jayessess

Yes. Their relationship continued post-conviction.


Oh…one thing not knowing what their mates are really like. But as he did, he should obviously be sacked.
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Oh Mandy! on 12:47 - Sep 10 with 850 viewsSwailsey

Oh Mandy! on 12:34 - Sep 10 by MattinLondon

I haven’t read the finer details of this story - but at the time did PM know that Epstein was a serious sexual offender?


Sadly very much so.

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Oh Mandy! on 14:27 - Sep 10 with 628 viewsPendejo

Oh Mandy! on 07:56 - Sep 10 by Swansea_Blue

Someone needs to blow this wide open. The victims are still pushing, but they’re not going to get anywhere on their own.


But who?

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

Epstein "committed suicide"
Maxwell doesn't seem to be saying much, probably in order to avoid her own "suicide"

It seems to me that there is an element of "no one is innocent" and so many people in positions of power are involved or tainted, that it'd be easier for them to legalise and weather the storm then actually prosecute.

I mean Epstein & Maxwell are the traffickers, the victims are known... Where are the perps? Other than the completely innocent Andrew Windsor has anyone actually been accused?

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Oh Mandy! on 14:34 - Sep 10 with 575 viewsPendejo

Oh Mandy! on 11:05 - Sep 10 by jayessess

It's both bad on its merits and also just politically idiotic.

One aspect of British political life is just how much politics is about the press/political elite just choosing to properly notice things or not. For whatever reason there's been an awful lot of 'not noticing' things that Peter Mandelson has done that make him unfit for any public office (not just Epstein but connections with Putin and various other tyrants, alongside all the business dealings when he was actually in office under Blair).

Why send him to the USA, where no such convention where you should just 'not notice' all this stuff because Mandelson is one of the establishment exists?


If you want to keep a lid on something that could have spectacular consequences you'd send someone with vested interests - that's my take

He knows the dirt & where it's buried? and was nicknamed "The Prince of Darkness" a long time ago... Hmm?
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Oh Mandy! on 14:38 - Sep 10 with 526 viewsPinewoodblue

Oh Mandy! on 10:42 - Sep 10 by flykickingbybgunn

Is this the person that we would want to represent us to the Yanks ?


Perfect choice to represent our country at the court of King Donald.

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Oh Mandy! on 15:01 - Sep 10 with 433 viewsOldFart71

Kier's crazy gang are doing really well aren't they ? A hosing minister resigns due to not paying the correct stamp duty, a homeless minister who's on a charge for making people homeless, a corruption minister who's on corruption charges and a UK minister who is pals with Epstein and was put into the job by Starmer whilst Epstein was himself under investigation and went to Epstein's home when he was in prison.
Isn't it time that whatever government is in power that they started to look after the very people that put them in power instead of having their own agenda and that individuals instead of being more interested in what they can get out of it themselves either whilst in power or when they finish put the country first.
We can blame whoever we want for the current situation. We can deny that Farage is the right man to lead us in future but my question would be "If not Farage" then who. Because we have had the Tories, we now have Labour and neither have come up with answers or improved the lot for working class people and we stumble from one crisis to another.
It is probably due to one of two things A) That those in government aren't good enough to do their jobs or B) That they have no interest in what the public want or need.
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Oh Mandy! on 15:01 - Sep 10 with 429 viewsMattinLondon

Oh Mandy! on 14:27 - Sep 10 by Pendejo

But who?

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

Epstein "committed suicide"
Maxwell doesn't seem to be saying much, probably in order to avoid her own "suicide"

It seems to me that there is an element of "no one is innocent" and so many people in positions of power are involved or tainted, that it'd be easier for them to legalise and weather the storm then actually prosecute.

I mean Epstein & Maxwell are the traffickers, the victims are known... Where are the perps? Other than the completely innocent Andrew Windsor has anyone actually been accused?


I don’t believe in conspiracy theories but his suicide was very convenient for a lot of powerful people.
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Oh Mandy! on 15:04 - Sep 10 with 407 viewsmellowblue

Oh Mandy! on 10:51 - Sep 10 by blueasfook

Some disturbing things in that birthday book wrote by Mandelson. KS needs to get rid of him pronto. Rayner had to resign for not paying a bit of tax. This guy hung out with a convicted paedo and sex trafficker.


I am surprised he got the job. There were plenty of rumours of involvement with Epstein.
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Oh Mandy! on 15:08 - Sep 10 with 384 viewsPinewoodblue

Oh Mandy! on 15:01 - Sep 10 by OldFart71

Kier's crazy gang are doing really well aren't they ? A hosing minister resigns due to not paying the correct stamp duty, a homeless minister who's on a charge for making people homeless, a corruption minister who's on corruption charges and a UK minister who is pals with Epstein and was put into the job by Starmer whilst Epstein was himself under investigation and went to Epstein's home when he was in prison.
Isn't it time that whatever government is in power that they started to look after the very people that put them in power instead of having their own agenda and that individuals instead of being more interested in what they can get out of it themselves either whilst in power or when they finish put the country first.
We can blame whoever we want for the current situation. We can deny that Farage is the right man to lead us in future but my question would be "If not Farage" then who. Because we have had the Tories, we now have Labour and neither have come up with answers or improved the lot for working class people and we stumble from one crisis to another.
It is probably due to one of two things A) That those in government aren't good enough to do their jobs or B) That they have no interest in what the public want or need.


It the our Ambassador in US not a Minister.

If Farage is the answer you are asking a stupid question.

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Oh Mandy! on 15:12 - Sep 10 with 367 viewsEdwardStone

Oh Mandy! on 15:01 - Sep 10 by OldFart71

Kier's crazy gang are doing really well aren't they ? A hosing minister resigns due to not paying the correct stamp duty, a homeless minister who's on a charge for making people homeless, a corruption minister who's on corruption charges and a UK minister who is pals with Epstein and was put into the job by Starmer whilst Epstein was himself under investigation and went to Epstein's home when he was in prison.
Isn't it time that whatever government is in power that they started to look after the very people that put them in power instead of having their own agenda and that individuals instead of being more interested in what they can get out of it themselves either whilst in power or when they finish put the country first.
We can blame whoever we want for the current situation. We can deny that Farage is the right man to lead us in future but my question would be "If not Farage" then who. Because we have had the Tories, we now have Labour and neither have come up with answers or improved the lot for working class people and we stumble from one crisis to another.
It is probably due to one of two things A) That those in government aren't good enough to do their jobs or B) That they have no interest in what the public want or need.


I do not think the Farage and his tribe of hopeless grifters will be an improvement over the current rabble, should they win the keys to No 10.

In fact, I fully believe that they will be about a million times worse

Please can you enlighten me if you think I am wrong

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Oh Mandy! on 15:28 - Sep 10 with 300 viewsjayessess

Oh Mandy! on 15:01 - Sep 10 by OldFart71

Kier's crazy gang are doing really well aren't they ? A hosing minister resigns due to not paying the correct stamp duty, a homeless minister who's on a charge for making people homeless, a corruption minister who's on corruption charges and a UK minister who is pals with Epstein and was put into the job by Starmer whilst Epstein was himself under investigation and went to Epstein's home when he was in prison.
Isn't it time that whatever government is in power that they started to look after the very people that put them in power instead of having their own agenda and that individuals instead of being more interested in what they can get out of it themselves either whilst in power or when they finish put the country first.
We can blame whoever we want for the current situation. We can deny that Farage is the right man to lead us in future but my question would be "If not Farage" then who. Because we have had the Tories, we now have Labour and neither have come up with answers or improved the lot for working class people and we stumble from one crisis to another.
It is probably due to one of two things A) That those in government aren't good enough to do their jobs or B) That they have no interest in what the public want or need.


Reform are funded by a motley crew of oil and gas lobbyists, property developers, various offshore tax havens.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/reform-uk-funders-nig

The idea that they've got the interests of "the working class" in mind is just laughable really.

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