| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah 20:24 - Sep 10 with 113287 views | ElderGrizzly |
Was speaking at a University event and appears to have been shot (from distance) in the neck.
And actually shot, not the Donald Trump kind.
Horrific whatever your political views and has no place in politics
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 09:07 - Sep 18 with 599 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 01:25 - Sep 18 by The_Romford_Blue |
I’ve nothing really to add to thread but I’ve read the last few pages (and the first few the night it happened) but just wanted to take a second to say this is one of the smartest posts I’ve ever read on here. Found it legitimately interesting seeing debate tactics somewhat explained and examples of.
Have an arrow of love |
He missed the Straw Man Argument - taking what someone said that's hard to debate against and watering it down and changing the meaning and/or context to make it much easier to defeat (like blowing over a straw man that you made yourself) despite it not being the original argument.
I learned all of these in Logic lectures, as part of my Philosophy module at uni, but tend to forget a lot of people didn't go to uni and won't know them.
Charlie Kirk, incidentally, used a lot of these logical fallacies to 'beat' less aware opponents. |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 09:12 - Sep 18 with 576 views | J2BLUE |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 09:07 - Sep 18 by The_Flashing_Smile |
He missed the Straw Man Argument - taking what someone said that's hard to debate against and watering it down and changing the meaning and/or context to make it much easier to defeat (like blowing over a straw man that you made yourself) despite it not being the original argument.
I learned all of these in Logic lectures, as part of my Philosophy module at uni, but tend to forget a lot of people didn't go to uni and won't know them.
Charlie Kirk, incidentally, used a lot of these logical fallacies to 'beat' less aware opponents. |
Oh so you're saying all scarecrows are fair game are you? Fascist. |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:42 - Sep 18 with 324 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 09:12 - Sep 18 by J2BLUE |
Oh so you're saying all scarecrows are fair game are you? Fascist. |
Most scarecrows are made of plastic these days. | |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:43 - Sep 18 with 313 views | J2BLUE |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:42 - Sep 18 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Most scarecrows are made of plastic these days. |
Are they? I didn't know that. | |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:50 - Sep 18 with 289 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:43 - Sep 18 by J2BLUE |
Are they? I didn't know that. |
Nor did I until I made it up just then.
#fakenews | |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 16:17 - Sep 18 with 165 views | lowhouseblue |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 09:07 - Sep 18 by The_Flashing_Smile |
He missed the Straw Man Argument - taking what someone said that's hard to debate against and watering it down and changing the meaning and/or context to make it much easier to defeat (like blowing over a straw man that you made yourself) despite it not being the original argument.
I learned all of these in Logic lectures, as part of my Philosophy module at uni, but tend to forget a lot of people didn't go to uni and won't know them.
Charlie Kirk, incidentally, used a lot of these logical fallacies to 'beat' less aware opponents. |
if you went to university and took a philosophy module you should also know that a very common technique in logical discourse is to simplify and try to isolate the key issues by abstracting from irrelevant detail. so someone reframes a question by stating it in a simpler and clearer context. the idea is that this simplification and questioning exposes the fundamental issue at stake, equally it allows you to say which bit of the simplification or abstraction actually impedes a proper understanding of the matter. it is a means to advance discussion and through abstraction and iterative revision to reach a deeper understanding. what you are labelling a "straw man method" is actually a collaborative process of questioning that exposes assumptions, encourages critical thinking, and helps individuals arrive at their own understanding and justifications for their beliefs. it's usually known as the socratic method - which your philosophy module will also have covered. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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