| Keno's solution to the UK's problems 08:50 - Sep 18 with 1126 views | Keno |
for the next 10 years scrap party politics and create a coalition, similar to during the wars years with the specific aims of sorting out issues with State Pension, NHS, Education, Immigration, Transport, policing and getting the third series of Tripods made
These won't be done all the time politics and in particular the desire to win an election in 5 years or less is looming
The "Government' could be formed by policitans, industry experts and leading lights with the country effectively being run by the civil service without the 'help' of ministers who have by and large proved themselves incapable or inept or both but under the guidance of people who know what they are doing.
Thats would be the UK sorted!!
Discuss ....
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| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 08:53 - Sep 18 with 1109 views | BrandonsBlues |
Has not done Germany much harm, having more centralist politics with input from minor parties to stop extreme right and left wing swings |  | | |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 09:42 - Sep 18 with 968 views | Guthrum |
There is precedent for a peacetime coalition formed to deal with an economic crisis.
In 1931, after the fall of his minority Labour administration, Ramsay MacDonald formed a National Government* to deal with the effects of the Great Depression. It won a landslide election that year and was in power (with various changes) until 1937.
* Backed by the Conservatives, along with factions of the Liberals and Labour, plus some independent MPs. MacDonald was formally expelled by the Labour Party for going down this route. |  |
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| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 09:48 - Sep 18 with 932 views | J2BLUE |
Or change to PR. Everyone's vote counts. MPs have to work together rather than jeering each other like five year olds.
Oh and PMQ questions should have to be approved by the speaker in advance. No more some backbencher asking if the PM agrees with him that that the opposition all smell of wee. |  |
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| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 11:19 - Sep 18 with 820 views | OldFart71 |
Unless you can get all of those whether in a coalition or a single party to be as one it will make little difference as we have seen with both Tories and Labour.
Maybe it would be of use if any Government in power did what was right for the Country rather than having agendas of their own.
It has been said that because of the relatively short time a government is in power, unless re-elected that their policies are always based on short termism. For instance Labour wants more government based people and the Tories go for private firms. Most likely due to their individual paymasters.
Also many ministers seem more interested in what they can get out of it themselves than what they are paid for and that is to run the country.
Politics need to change as many people are fed up with being spoon fed lies and told do as I say and not as I do. Whilst billions are wasted and we the people have to pick up the tab. | | | |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 11:48 - Sep 18 with 758 views | WeWereZombies |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 09:42 - Sep 18 by Guthrum |
There is precedent for a peacetime coalition formed to deal with an economic crisis.
In 1931, after the fall of his minority Labour administration, Ramsay MacDonald formed a National Government* to deal with the effects of the Great Depression. It won a landslide election that year and was in power (with various changes) until 1937.
* Backed by the Conservatives, along with factions of the Liberals and Labour, plus some independent MPs. MacDonald was formally expelled by the Labour Party for going down this route. |
Although formally expelled it could be viewed that MacDonald had already abandoned the Labour Party when it happened, the reasons are complex:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsay_MacDonald#Reputation
The Liberal Party playing politics (in the worst sense of the phrase) over things like the Zinoviev letter didn't help either, and from a national governing perspective poisoned relations with Soviet Russia for good (although maybe no person or nation could put a brake on Stalin by that time.) |  |
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| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 12:18 - Sep 18 with 683 views | Churchman |
End party politics and declare you Caesar. You get a free toga, a few leaves for the bonce and unlimited power to sort out the mess. You’d get my vote (or should it be tribute?)
I actually have no problem with your first a paragraph, as it goes.
Care with the Civil Service though. It is there to implement and challenge, not create policy. That’s for the HoC mugs to do.
Interesting that the wartime coalition worked pretty well and is actually a tribute to the strength of the war cabinet and their single minded aim to defeat the enemy. Not enough credit is given to the likes of Attlee in my view for the work they did.
Powerful people like Beaverbrook played their part which I am guessing is where your comment re industrialists and leading lights come from. |  | | |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 12:34 - Sep 18 with 645 views | MattinLondon |
My hairbrain idea would be for all of the CEOs of the various NHS Trusts to get together and be responsible for the NHS budget with no political pressure or influence from MPs. As well as this, they’ll be responsible for health policy and priorities in England. Obviously those CEOs will be accountable to their own doctors and nurses etc.
I would try and do the same with other departments as I’m not sure that a lot of MPs and Ministers are best for long termism.
Probably not feasible at all. |  | | |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 12:41 - Sep 18 with 605 views | LuciBlue |
If it gets a third series of Tripods made, it's worth a gamble. |  |
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| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 12:54 - Sep 18 with 568 views | BlueForYou |
I've been thinking for a while now, that party politics is dead in the UK.So I kind of agree with you Keno. I'd like to see something more along the lines of the Swiss system. People vote regularly on issues which are put to their parliament/federal council to work on. Believe the council is cross party & elected by the MP's. It's a very democratic system & I think if we could find a British version of it, this would serve us way better than currently, in that hopefully it would get parliament working together for the National good. |  | | |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 13:52 - Sep 18 with 435 views | thebooks |
Technocracies don’t work. The idea that some sort of neutral path exists that can be divined by a set of “leading lights” is basically what we’ve had for the last 40-50 years anyway. Or is all this despite industry leaders and “sensible” politicians.
Who gets to choose which politicians, industry leaders etc? It’s a centrist fantasy. |  | | |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 13:57 - Sep 18 with 419 views | blueasfook |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 09:48 - Sep 18 by J2BLUE |
Or change to PR. Everyone's vote counts. MPs have to work together rather than jeering each other like five year olds.
Oh and PMQ questions should have to be approved by the speaker in advance. No more some backbencher asking if the PM agrees with him that that the opposition all smell of wee. |
Our electoral system is long overdue an overhaul and PR is definitely the way to go. |  |
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| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 14:19 - Sep 18 with 362 views | WeWereZombies |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 13:52 - Sep 18 by thebooks |
Technocracies don’t work. The idea that some sort of neutral path exists that can be divined by a set of “leading lights” is basically what we’ve had for the last 40-50 years anyway. Or is all this despite industry leaders and “sensible” politicians.
Who gets to choose which politicians, industry leaders etc? It’s a centrist fantasy. |
'a set of “leading lights” is basically what we’ve had for the last 40-50 years'
Ahem,
'The House of Lords is the upper house of the Parliament of the United Kingdom... One of the oldest extant institutions in the world, its origins lie in the early 11th century and the emergence of bicameralism in the 13th century' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords [Post edited 18 Sep 14:21]
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| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 14:20 - Sep 18 with 359 views | bournemouthblue |
If you aren't getting of government of Unity during the CoVid crisis I struggle to see why Labour would sacrifice their stonking majority to work with Kemi Badenoch and others? |  |
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| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 14:29 - Sep 18 with 315 views | MVBlue |
Yes agreed and as long as it keeps out a total majority USA backed Reform party even better.
But put housing, immigration, growth, transport and water, aged care and health at the top of the agenda. Then also plan for the future and infrastructure needs.
10 years sounds about right.
Also wealth tax. [Post edited 18 Sep 14:29]
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| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 14:47 - Sep 18 with 267 views | BlueForYou |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 12:54 - Sep 18 by BlueForYou |
I've been thinking for a while now, that party politics is dead in the UK.So I kind of agree with you Keno. I'd like to see something more along the lines of the Swiss system. People vote regularly on issues which are put to their parliament/federal council to work on. Believe the council is cross party & elected by the MP's. It's a very democratic system & I think if we could find a British version of it, this would serve us way better than currently, in that hopefully it would get parliament working together for the National good. |
The current system doesn't work anymore. Labour were elected with little more than 20% of the electorate, even less of the population. Is it any wonder that people feel left out, left behind. Straight PR will make it worse! Needs to be a radical change. | | | |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 14:51 - Sep 18 with 258 views | Churchman |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 14:29 - Sep 18 by MVBlue |
Yes agreed and as long as it keeps out a total majority USA backed Reform party even better.
But put housing, immigration, growth, transport and water, aged care and health at the top of the agenda. Then also plan for the future and infrastructure needs.
10 years sounds about right.
Also wealth tax. [Post edited 18 Sep 14:29]
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The problem with wealth taxes is that while they morally might be the right thing to do (reason enough in my book), they don’t tend to bring in any money. | | | |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 15:15 - Sep 18 with 205 views | Keno |
| Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 14:51 - Sep 18 by Churchman |
The problem with wealth taxes is that while they morally might be the right thing to do (reason enough in my book), they don’t tend to bring in any money. |
And the UK already has a wealth tax | |
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