| Ref yesteday 10:08 - Oct 6 with 1483 views | Samuelowen88 |
We always seem to have a thread calling out poor reffing in games.
But, yesterday I though he handled it well, didn't go card happy, didn't make it about him.
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| Ref yesteday on 10:10 - Oct 6 with 1378 views | LeoMuff |
Think there were a few minor things, but yes exactly what you want game flowed, gave warning instead of yellows early. Never felt like we were moments away from a crazy decision
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| Ref yesteday on 10:10 - Oct 6 with 1378 views | _clive_baker_ |
That's all you want in a ref. Some people said he was lenient but refs can't win, I'm always on the side of letting things go and trying to encourage a football match to break out rather than freekicks every 10 seconds. Philogene's disallowed goal looked soft but when a defender goes down they generally get the decision. Probably balanced out by shades of handball by Kipre, but ultimately the right result and a good spectacle, well refereed on a day that had the potential for it to go in a different direction. |  | | |
| Ref yesteday on 10:13 - Oct 6 with 1337 views | Rimsy |
Thought he was excellent. Let the game flow, knowing there'd be some tasty comings together with it being a high pressure match. Had a word with a few rather than brandishing cards. |  |
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| Ref yesteday on 10:14 - Oct 6 with 1327 views | SheffordBlue |
| Ref yesteday on 10:10 - Oct 6 by _clive_baker_ |
That's all you want in a ref. Some people said he was lenient but refs can't win, I'm always on the side of letting things go and trying to encourage a football match to break out rather than freekicks every 10 seconds. Philogene's disallowed goal looked soft but when a defender goes down they generally get the decision. Probably balanced out by shades of handball by Kipre, but ultimately the right result and a good spectacle, well refereed on a day that had the potential for it to go in a different direction. |
Think there was a fairly robust Norwich challenge in the first 5 or so minutes where he gave the player a really good talking to but didn't book him. Thought that was the right decision as otherwise he'd have had to book lots of players.
We've struggled at times to get it right when a ref as a different bar for challenges e.g. we keep going down under challenges that it's clear early on a particular ref won't give or make challenges that it becomes really clear that he'll give every time. Thought yesterday either we matched his bar naturally or adjusted to it quicker. |  |
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| Ref yesteday on 10:17 - Oct 6 with 1287 views | Samuelowen88 |
| Ref yesteday on 10:10 - Oct 6 by _clive_baker_ |
That's all you want in a ref. Some people said he was lenient but refs can't win, I'm always on the side of letting things go and trying to encourage a football match to break out rather than freekicks every 10 seconds. Philogene's disallowed goal looked soft but when a defender goes down they generally get the decision. Probably balanced out by shades of handball by Kipre, but ultimately the right result and a good spectacle, well refereed on a day that had the potential for it to go in a different direction. |
Yeah don't think there can be any complaints about the disallowed goal. If it had been the other way round we would have been screaming for it to be chalked off.
The kipre potential hand ball was very hard to see in real time.
I did think the handbags at corners might have led to more cards but he handled it well [Post edited 6 Oct 10:45]
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| Ref yesteday on 10:23 - Oct 6 with 1249 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Ref yesteday on 10:10 - Oct 6 by _clive_baker_ |
That's all you want in a ref. Some people said he was lenient but refs can't win, I'm always on the side of letting things go and trying to encourage a football match to break out rather than freekicks every 10 seconds. Philogene's disallowed goal looked soft but when a defender goes down they generally get the decision. Probably balanced out by shades of handball by Kipre, but ultimately the right result and a good spectacle, well refereed on a day that had the potential for it to go in a different direction. |
I recorded the game and rewatched it last night.
I scrutenised the disallowed goal with intese scrute.
The ball is punted forward. Hirst and Darling go for it. At the start of this a yellow arm can be seen wrapped around a blue back pulling him down. Hirst responds in kind and Darling goes to ground.
The ball flows through and Jaden buries it.
As the first foul was by Darling the ref should have allowed play to carry on as there was clear advantage.
Further. He was the last man and after the goal should have been shown a red card.
As they run away from the incident, Darling, realises he has got away with it can be seen to be grinning. [Post edited 6 Oct 10:27]
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| Ref yesteday on 10:23 - Oct 6 with 1241 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Ref yesteday on 10:17 - Oct 6 by Samuelowen88 |
Yeah don't think there can be any complaints about the disallowed goal. If it had been the other way round we would have been screaming for it to be chalked off.
The kipre potential hand ball was very hard to see in real time.
I did think the handbags at corners might have led to more cards but he handled it well [Post edited 6 Oct 10:45]
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It wasn't dissimilar to a goal Brum had chalked off when Greaves went down IIRC, so on that basis its consistent. Easier to say it after a win I guess, if that's 1-1 in the 90th minute I'd be fuming. | | | |
| Ref yesteday on 10:27 - Oct 6 with 1203 views | Metal_Hacker |
Think I read somewhere last week he's being fast tracked to the Prem by all accounts |  |
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| Ref yesteday on 10:43 - Oct 6 with 1050 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Ref yesteday on 10:23 - Oct 6 by _clive_baker_ |
It wasn't dissimilar to a goal Brum had chalked off when Greaves went down IIRC, so on that basis its consistent. Easier to say it after a win I guess, if that's 1-1 in the 90th minute I'd be fuming. |
Not similar at all. Brum player jumped into greaves back. This was a dive. | | | |
| Ref yesteday on 11:05 - Oct 6 with 948 views | EastTownBlue |
| Ref yesteday on 10:23 - Oct 6 by flykickingbybgunn |
I recorded the game and rewatched it last night.
I scrutenised the disallowed goal with intese scrute.
The ball is punted forward. Hirst and Darling go for it. At the start of this a yellow arm can be seen wrapped around a blue back pulling him down. Hirst responds in kind and Darling goes to ground.
The ball flows through and Jaden buries it.
As the first foul was by Darling the ref should have allowed play to carry on as there was clear advantage.
Further. He was the last man and after the goal should have been shown a red card.
As they run away from the incident, Darling, realises he has got away with it can be seen to be grinning. [Post edited 6 Oct 10:27]
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There can't be a red card for denial of an obvious goalscoring oppurtunity if goal was scored. | | | |
| Ref yesteday on 11:09 - Oct 6 with 920 views | glasso |
I agree. He seemed to have a problem with Philogene - can recall four or five times JP seemed to get clattered and no foul, or got bizarre calls against him - but overall I think he reffed the whole game pretty solidly.
Having said all that, it's not uncommon for me to be at a game and think calls were terrible and then see on TV that the ref was spot on, so wouldn't mind watching those Philogene decisions back | | | |
| Ref yesteday on 11:19 - Oct 6 with 840 views | BseaBlue |
| Ref yesteday on 10:23 - Oct 6 by flykickingbybgunn |
I recorded the game and rewatched it last night.
I scrutenised the disallowed goal with intese scrute.
The ball is punted forward. Hirst and Darling go for it. At the start of this a yellow arm can be seen wrapped around a blue back pulling him down. Hirst responds in kind and Darling goes to ground.
The ball flows through and Jaden buries it.
As the first foul was by Darling the ref should have allowed play to carry on as there was clear advantage.
Further. He was the last man and after the goal should have been shown a red card.
As they run away from the incident, Darling, realises he has got away with it can be seen to be grinning. [Post edited 6 Oct 10:27]
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I think I read somewhere about the situation at corners etc that if both players are pushing/pulling each other, it is not deemed as a foul.
As you say, it was clear that Darling was just as much the instigator and the goal should have been given. That being said, Azon looked offside to me for the third so it balanced itself out niceley! |  | | |
| Ref yesteday on 11:22 - Oct 6 with 819 views | HighgateBlue |
| Ref yesteday on 10:10 - Oct 6 by _clive_baker_ |
That's all you want in a ref. Some people said he was lenient but refs can't win, I'm always on the side of letting things go and trying to encourage a football match to break out rather than freekicks every 10 seconds. Philogene's disallowed goal looked soft but when a defender goes down they generally get the decision. Probably balanced out by shades of handball by Kipre, but ultimately the right result and a good spectacle, well refereed on a day that had the potential for it to go in a different direction. |
Absolutely. Especially in a derby match. If he tries to stamp his authority early and sets the bar too low, if things get heated he has to send half the team off, and that's just all wrong.
So I think erring in terms of letting things flow was clearly the right approach (as it normally is), and as a result he's getting appreciation from a fanbase which doesn't always see the good in his kind! |  | | |
| Ref yesteday on 12:53 - Oct 6 with 654 views | Stenvict |
| Ref yesteday on 10:10 - Oct 6 by _clive_baker_ |
That's all you want in a ref. Some people said he was lenient but refs can't win, I'm always on the side of letting things go and trying to encourage a football match to break out rather than freekicks every 10 seconds. Philogene's disallowed goal looked soft but when a defender goes down they generally get the decision. Probably balanced out by shades of handball by Kipre, but ultimately the right result and a good spectacle, well refereed on a day that had the potential for it to go in a different direction. |
The Kipre handball is a perfect example of why VAR should not be used, as that would've been disallowed, for what was a minimal accidental brush of the hand. Nobody complained about it at the time, because nobody saw it, but if you slow done a replay and check every angle, you'll find a reason to rule it out. | |
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| Ref yesteday on 13:00 - Oct 6 with 618 views | stonojnr |
Still not convinced about our disallowed goal, if its a foul blow up straight away imo dont let play proceed and then decide its a foul. If that goes for a goal kick i bet he wouldn't have given anything.
And some of his decisions for free kicks, like the one 2nd half where we stopped the ball dead stepped past, Norwich player then falls over. How was that a foul against us ?
So definitely not the worst we've had this season, possibly one of the betterish ones but its a low bar standard thesedays. Thinks his linesmen were the worst ones, with their inability to judge when the ball is out of play or offsides. | | | |
| Ref yesteday on 13:07 - Oct 6 with 574 views | MrBeckinsale |
| Ref yesteday on 13:00 - Oct 6 by stonojnr |
Still not convinced about our disallowed goal, if its a foul blow up straight away imo dont let play proceed and then decide its a foul. If that goes for a goal kick i bet he wouldn't have given anything.
And some of his decisions for free kicks, like the one 2nd half where we stopped the ball dead stepped past, Norwich player then falls over. How was that a foul against us ?
So definitely not the worst we've had this season, possibly one of the betterish ones but its a low bar standard thesedays. Thinks his linesmen were the worst ones, with their inability to judge when the ball is out of play or offsides. |
The Lino in front of the west stand wasn't great. A couple of times giving a corner that was clearly a goal kick, when it was right in front of him and ref went with what the Lino gave as a couple of examples. | | | |
| Ref yesteday on 13:09 - Oct 6 with 564 views | Ryorry |
| Ref yesteday on 10:23 - Oct 6 by flykickingbybgunn |
I recorded the game and rewatched it last night.
I scrutenised the disallowed goal with intese scrute.
The ball is punted forward. Hirst and Darling go for it. At the start of this a yellow arm can be seen wrapped around a blue back pulling him down. Hirst responds in kind and Darling goes to ground.
The ball flows through and Jaden buries it.
As the first foul was by Darling the ref should have allowed play to carry on as there was clear advantage.
Further. He was the last man and after the goal should have been shown a red card.
As they run away from the incident, Darling, realises he has got away with it can be seen to be grinning. [Post edited 6 Oct 10:27]
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Agree with your reading of that, apart from your thinking it shoulda been a red for Darling. |  |
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| Ref yesteday on 13:13 - Oct 6 with 553 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Ref yesteday on 10:43 - Oct 6 by redrickstuhaart |
Not similar at all. Brum player jumped into greaves back. This was a dive. |
I think it was a foul on Greaves, there was contact, but they're both a little bit soft IMO. | | | |
| Ref yesteday on 13:16 - Oct 6 with 537 views | grow_our_own |
Agreed. How Thomas Kirk and Stephen Martin (Blackburn ref) can be officiating at the same level is incredible. Chalk and cheese. | | | |
| Ref yesteday on 13:19 - Oct 6 with 518 views | Stenvict |
| Ref yesteday on 13:00 - Oct 6 by stonojnr |
Still not convinced about our disallowed goal, if its a foul blow up straight away imo dont let play proceed and then decide its a foul. If that goes for a goal kick i bet he wouldn't have given anything.
And some of his decisions for free kicks, like the one 2nd half where we stopped the ball dead stepped past, Norwich player then falls over. How was that a foul against us ?
So definitely not the worst we've had this season, possibly one of the betterish ones but its a low bar standard thesedays. Thinks his linesmen were the worst ones, with their inability to judge when the ball is out of play or offsides. |
The ref definitely blew the whistle before Philogene took his shot. I didn't celebrate because I had seen the ref had given a foul. | |
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| Ref yesteday on 14:40 - Oct 6 with 374 views | Bluemike31 |
I thought he was the best ref I have seen for years. | | | |
| Ref yesteday on 14:49 - Oct 6 with 344 views | tractor_lady |
He was insignificant in that he did nothing to bring any attention to himself which for me is all you need from a ref. Inexperienced at this level was his biggest game thus far and i think he did himself proud. A poor ref and gamed like that can fully kick off | | | |
| Ref yesteday on 14:52 - Oct 6 with 324 views | tractor_lady |
| Ref yesteday on 13:19 - Oct 6 by Stenvict |
The ref definitely blew the whistle before Philogene took his shot. I didn't celebrate because I had seen the ref had given a foul. |
Spot on he called up immediately post “foul” | | | |
| Ref yesteday on 15:18 - Oct 6 with 273 views | Vaughan8 |
You're right. Nothing majorly wrong.
The only criticism I had of him was he would let stuff go mostly, but then have minutes where everything was a foul again (aka the first "goal" philogene scored and Hirst fouled). | | | |
| Ref yesteday on 15:53 - Oct 6 with 214 views | Denny32 |
A good ref is where you hear or read nothing about him/her after a match | | | |
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