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If you look at it sideways-on, he was at full stretch and did brilliantly to prevent it reaching the Boro' player who was unmarked and would otherwise have swept it home.
The fault was that the cross was unchallenged, O'Shea checked and so enabled the ball to get past him, and despite having five players in the vicinity no one challenged the goal scorer.
Indeed, all night our closing down was rather poor.
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Palmer made some excellent saves on 17:00 - Oct 18 with 1417 views
Palmer made some excellent saves on 16:50 - Oct 18 by DJR
That seems extremely harsh to me.
If you look at it sideways-on, he was at full stretch and did brilliantly to prevent it reaching the Boro' player who was unmarked and would otherwise have swept it home.
The fault was that the cross was unchallenged, O'Shea checked and so enabled the ball to get past him, and despite having five players in the vicinity no one challenged the goal scorer.
Indeed, all night our closing down was rather poor.
Whilst I do agree it's harsh, the only thing he can't do is gently palm the ball into the middle of the area.
If you cant properly reach it or clear it, you've got to allow your defenders to get rid of it.
Palming it into the middle of the box is only going to give the attackers who are on the move an advantage.
Kept us in the game so no qualms. He would be disappointed with that though.
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Palmer made some excellent saves on 17:07 - Oct 18 with 1386 views
What on earth he was doing with the one in the first half where he pushed away a shot in to Strelecs path only for him to blaze it wide, I’ll never know.
Palmer made some excellent saves on 17:23 - Oct 18 by Kieran_Knows
What on earth he was doing with the one in the first half where he pushed away a shot in to Strelecs path only for him to blaze it wide, I’ll never know.
Yes, that was astonishingly bad too.
Although he has gone up in my estimation for his amazing quadruple save....
But pretty much every time a goal goes in I say " Muric would have saved that "
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Palmer made some excellent saves on 17:51 - Oct 18 with 1253 views
Palmer made some excellent saves on 17:23 - Oct 18 by Kieran_Knows
What on earth he was doing with the one in the first half where he pushed away a shot in to Strelecs path only for him to blaze it wide, I’ll never know.
Yes, that was terrible. I’m less critical of the one before the Boro second but it wasn’t great either.
That second was a Catch 22 for a goalie. You leave it and it's a tap on for their player, so you have to parry and hope it lands kindly. It didn't, they scored. Bad luck for the goalie. Crap defending to allow the ball to get that far.
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Palmer made some excellent saves on 18:27 - Oct 18 with 1122 views
Palmer made some excellent saves on 17:00 - Oct 18 by Bellevue_Blue
Whilst I do agree it's harsh, the only thing he can't do is gently palm the ball into the middle of the area.
If you cant properly reach it or clear it, you've got to allow your defenders to get rid of it.
Palming it into the middle of the box is only going to give the attackers who are on the move an advantage.
Kept us in the game so no qualms. He would be disappointed with that though.
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If he left it and allowed his defenders to get rid of it, their striker would have just tapped it in. Can't fault Palmer for the goal. Thought O'Shea was more at fault, dropped behind the defensive line and while it probably was just off anyway, there'd have been no doubt if he'd been in line. He then wasn't marking for striker or cutting out the cross, just in no man's land, imo. Which unfortunately isn't that unusual for him.
Palmer made some excellent saves on 18:33 - Oct 18 by Herbivore
If he left it and allowed his defenders to get rid of it, their striker would have just tapped it in. Can't fault Palmer for the goal. Thought O'Shea was more at fault, dropped behind the defensive line and while it probably was just off anyway, there'd have been no doubt if he'd been in line. He then wasn't marking for striker or cutting out the cross, just in no man's land, imo. Which unfortunately isn't that unusual for him.
Think that's quite harsh Herbz
Oshea doesn't really drop, he can see the boro lad clearly and doesn't really drop goal side and the player was offiside, the lino just didn't give it.
On the cross, he's done the right thing in protecting the drag back knowing palmer is there for the ball going straight across, really, Palmer isn't on his toe's enough and that's actually when you watch it back a bread and butter keeper catch rather than a dive an palm out.. So much so that Oshea does check out as that's a keepers ball all day long.
But also, Kipre again doesn't track his runner which ends up for an easy finish for someone scoring their first goal since moving to boro in January
He was superb, could have easily let in 4 or 5, which to me suggests we didn’t get punished for most of our mistakes.
Seen jen’s alone lose the ball in key areas 12 times this season, and not get punished.
We’ve got away with it most games.., anything but punished, Portsmouth missed a 1 on 1 and Nodge had big chances in key areas. Preston, Blackburn, not unlucky, not heading a 30 yard straight ball and fouling someone for a red card isn’t unlucky either, Leif wrong side regularly, again, not bad luck. Bad management, coaching, confidence, quality, yes.
Luck doesn’t last 45 games.
Winging it, not unlucky, just poor, especially at the level.
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Palmer made some excellent saves on 13:30 - Oct 19 with 680 views
Palmer made some excellent saves on 13:23 - Oct 19 by darkhorse28
He was superb, could have easily let in 4 or 5, which to me suggests we didn’t get punished for most of our mistakes.
Seen jen’s alone lose the ball in key areas 12 times this season, and not get punished.
We’ve got away with it most games.., anything but punished, Portsmouth missed a 1 on 1 and Nodge had big chances in key areas. Preston, Blackburn, not unlucky, not heading a 30 yard straight ball and fouling someone for a red card isn’t unlucky either, Leif wrong side regularly, again, not bad luck. Bad management, coaching, confidence, quality, yes.
Luck doesn’t last 45 games.
Winging it, not unlucky, just poor, especially at the level.
This is my issue with some stuff on here. It’s easy to make plenty of fair points. Cajuste losing it too often in dangerous areas for example.
But you ruin it by going ridiculously over the top suggesting we were lucky to have beaten Portsmouth and Scum. We were dominant against both teams and 2-1 and 3-1 absolutely flattered them rather than us. If you’re going to seriously suggest that the Scum had big chances (which they didn’t bar one chance second half that was dragged wide), you ought to mention the 5 or 6 far higher chances that we ourselves had.
I think a more objective way of putting the same point is that when you're on top you have to take your chances. Other teams have been able to do that against us, we haven't always been able to do the same. Hence we're not troubling the top six.
They had a decent number of shots, Palmer saved a really good number of them. Another day he'd save fewer and we would be punished even more. To allow them those chances in the first place was a "slight misjudgment" on each occasion, and yet we didn't get punished for it every time.
I await evidence that we can win away from home, or against a top half team home or away. A team that doesn't do that is more likely to face relegation than promotion. At present we seem pretty bang average to me.
How the bookies still have us as 2nd favourites for the title is beyond me.
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Palmer made some excellent saves on 14:00 - Oct 19 with 608 views
Palmer made some excellent saves on 13:23 - Oct 19 by darkhorse28
He was superb, could have easily let in 4 or 5, which to me suggests we didn’t get punished for most of our mistakes.
Seen jen’s alone lose the ball in key areas 12 times this season, and not get punished.
We’ve got away with it most games.., anything but punished, Portsmouth missed a 1 on 1 and Nodge had big chances in key areas. Preston, Blackburn, not unlucky, not heading a 30 yard straight ball and fouling someone for a red card isn’t unlucky either, Leif wrong side regularly, again, not bad luck. Bad management, coaching, confidence, quality, yes.
Luck doesn’t last 45 games.
Winging it, not unlucky, just poor, especially at the level.
Other teams will have chances in games FFS. What an whine.
That game made me think I was watching Muric play for us. The only difference is that the forum would have had a crash out had they seen Muric do what Palmer did there, even before the first goal when he palmed it straight to Strelec.
I do think we have accidentally downgraded - as much as I was willing to back Muric, I don't know about Palmer because I'm not certain that I'm seeing a keeper better than him. Some of the goals we've conceded this season have been very saveable. Some of the goals Muric conceded last season were very avoidable. It's like we accidentally replaced like for like in this position.
The saves he DID make were very important at the time, though.
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Palmer made some excellent saves on 12:55 - Oct 20 with 272 views
I do think people seriously underestimate the speed of the game (shots, crosses, decisions to be made) at this level when commenting on goalkeeping performances. The idea that the cut back was a simple low save to be held just isn't right for me.
If you freeze the build up, Palmer sets square at point of contact, middle of the six year box in line with the post, an aggressive position to effect the cross if it is cut back and forcing it to be stood up from that area if not. He then makes contact on 5 and a half yards preventing the tap in, and I'm then looking at Kipre/Matusiwa for help in tracking Whittaker into the box following the build up.
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Palmer made some excellent saves on 12:58 - Oct 20 with 255 views
Palmer made some excellent saves on 17:23 - Oct 18 by Kieran_Knows
What on earth he was doing with the one in the first half where he pushed away a shot in to Strelecs path only for him to blaze it wide, I’ll never know.
Just had a look at that again as seemed very harsh to me. On the TV angle it looks a much more routine save than it appeared from the other side of the ground. Think he then did very well to close down Strelec so quickly, even if it was a bad miss from the forward's perspective.
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