| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post 16:54 - Oct 25 with 988 views | Illinoisblue |
Sunderland winning at Chelsea. They are flying |  |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 16:56 - Oct 25 with 971 views | bartyg |
Damn if only we'd beaten Chelsea... |  | | |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 16:57 - Oct 25 with 964 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
Never mind comparing them to us, when was the last time a promoted side was doing this well at this stage of the season? I've got over any feelings of envy towards them, and ultimately this is a good thing for the league. |  | | |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 16:57 - Oct 25 with 945 views | Blue_Heath |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 16:56 - Oct 25 by bartyg |
Damn if only we'd beaten Chelsea... |
Sunderland were away, helluva result to be fair. | | | |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 16:59 - Oct 25 with 917 views | ArnieM |
How much have the promoted sides spent compared to us. I've no idea.... |  |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:01 - Oct 25 with 890 views | Chrisd |
You have to admit the 3 promoted sides are already doing a far better job of it than those sides that have been promoted the last couple of seasons from the Championship. The Mackems aren’t too far off our total and we are coming to the end of October!!! | |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:05 - Oct 25 with 858 views | LankHenners |
Given the money spent and calibre of player they signed in the summer you fancied them to give it a good go but quite remarkable how well they've started.
Obviously we want more but perhaps goes to show the playoffs (provided you win them of course) aren't necessarily a failure as long as you get the following 'off-season' right. They were comfortably 2nd best in the semis and final but squeaked through and now look at them. |  |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:06 - Oct 25 with 832 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 16:59 - Oct 25 by ArnieM |
How much have the promoted sides spent compared to us. I've no idea.... |
Sunderland spent a similar amount to us I think.
But they learned from our recruitment mistakes I think. |  |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:10 - Oct 25 with 780 views | Smoresy |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 16:57 - Oct 25 by SWLondonBlue93 |
Never mind comparing them to us, when was the last time a promoted side was doing this well at this stage of the season? I've got over any feelings of envy towards them, and ultimately this is a good thing for the league. |
Yes great for the game. I struggled to see a Xhaka side being relegated - his decision convinced me that they were bringing in serious quality alongside him - but I'm stunned by how well they've taken to what we know to be a brutal league. | | | |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:13 - Oct 25 with 738 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 16:56 - Oct 25 by bartyg |
Damn if only we'd beaten Chelsea... |
Or won 5 of our first 9. |  |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:21 - Oct 25 with 676 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:05 - Oct 25 by LankHenners |
Given the money spent and calibre of player they signed in the summer you fancied them to give it a good go but quite remarkable how well they've started.
Obviously we want more but perhaps goes to show the playoffs (provided you win them of course) aren't necessarily a failure as long as you get the following 'off-season' right. They were comfortably 2nd best in the semis and final but squeaked through and now look at them. |
Forget last year though, they’re a brand new team, the difference is who they’ve brought in and how quick they’ve started playing together.
We spent about the same! | |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:34 - Oct 25 with 608 views | Churchman |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 16:57 - Oct 25 by SWLondonBlue93 |
Never mind comparing them to us, when was the last time a promoted side was doing this well at this stage of the season? I've got over any feelings of envy towards them, and ultimately this is a good thing for the league. |
It’s very rare for a promoted team to do so well. It’s just a shame people can’t just give them the praise they deserve for it rather than use it as a stick to beat our players and club.
But that’s the support we have now, I guess. I doubt Sunderland fans boo the announcement of a goalkeeper in a pre-season friendly before he’s kicked a ball, hound people like AAH, mock a centre forward when he’s subbed, beat up on a 19 year old because of the fee paid for him or have fathers of players asking those on social media to stop abusing his son.
We used to have a quiet but patient fanbase. That’s been replaced by an ever growing toxic one. Who would want to play in front of that?
There’s no envy from me on Sunderland’s achievements or any other club’s. Good for them. |  | | |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:45 - Oct 25 with 579 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:34 - Oct 25 by Churchman |
It’s very rare for a promoted team to do so well. It’s just a shame people can’t just give them the praise they deserve for it rather than use it as a stick to beat our players and club.
But that’s the support we have now, I guess. I doubt Sunderland fans boo the announcement of a goalkeeper in a pre-season friendly before he’s kicked a ball, hound people like AAH, mock a centre forward when he’s subbed, beat up on a 19 year old because of the fee paid for him or have fathers of players asking those on social media to stop abusing his son.
We used to have a quiet but patient fanbase. That’s been replaced by an ever growing toxic one. Who would want to play in front of that?
There’s no envy from me on Sunderland’s achievements or any other club’s. Good for them. |
Exaggerating much? One registered poster on TWTD talking about Egili doesn’t constitute a fanbase.
We have one of the best fanbases in the league ,we took what 2,700 to Boro on a Friday night. We have a few brainless idiots but it’s shame they are not being drowned out by others more vocally supporting their team. | |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:46 - Oct 25 with 580 views | LankHenners |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:21 - Oct 25 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Forget last year though, they’re a brand new team, the difference is who they’ve brought in and how quick they’ve started playing together.
We spent about the same! |
Would be interesting to see what they've spent on wages as I'd imagine they'll have had to taken a bit of a risk on that in some regards to convince some of the players they've got to join in the first place.
If you'd have said the likes of Grant Xhaka and Nordi Mukiele were moving to the Prem in the summer you'd assume it would have been to a well established middling Prem club - Fulham or someone.
Fair play to them, obviously had a well established network across Europe which helped identify targets and convince them to join which we didn't but I was looking at some of the line-ups we were putting out around this time of the season last year and it almost makes you laugh. We weren't really 'ready' for the Prem on several fronts and put ourselves on a bit of a hiding to nothing from the get go! | |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:48 - Oct 25 with 561 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:46 - Oct 25 by LankHenners |
Would be interesting to see what they've spent on wages as I'd imagine they'll have had to taken a bit of a risk on that in some regards to convince some of the players they've got to join in the first place.
If you'd have said the likes of Grant Xhaka and Nordi Mukiele were moving to the Prem in the summer you'd assume it would have been to a well established middling Prem club - Fulham or someone.
Fair play to them, obviously had a well established network across Europe which helped identify targets and convince them to join which we didn't but I was looking at some of the line-ups we were putting out around this time of the season last year and it almost makes you laugh. We weren't really 'ready' for the Prem on several fronts and put ourselves on a bit of a hiding to nothing from the get go! |
Need to stop talking about them like a parachute club tbh.
They were in league one more recently than the PL and were a right mess at that time as well (documentaries available). | |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:50 - Oct 25 with 543 views | LankHenners |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:48 - Oct 25 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Need to stop talking about them like a parachute club tbh.
They were in league one more recently than the PL and were a right mess at that time as well (documentaries available). |
I wasn't?
Not sure what point you're trying to make. | |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:54 - Oct 25 with 508 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:50 - Oct 25 by LankHenners |
I wasn't?
Not sure what point you're trying to make. |
Not sure how well all these networks can be established when you’ve been out for ten years and in league one since. They obviously at some levels had a better set up with their coach etc but it was by design in many ways we went to the EFL for our shopping. Anyway hopefully we can learn some lessons if we get another chance. | |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:56 - Oct 25 with 491 views | Miaow |
The mad thing is that they lost their last five games of the 2024/25 regular season. |  |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 18:00 - Oct 25 with 470 views | Churchman |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:45 - Oct 25 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Exaggerating much? One registered poster on TWTD talking about Egili doesn’t constitute a fanbase.
We have one of the best fanbases in the league ,we took what 2,700 to Boro on a Friday night. We have a few brainless idiots but it’s shame they are not being drowned out by others more vocally supporting their team. |
No I don’t think so. Just look at the growing Tena Cadre on here. Even when we win a game. Can’t wait for Darkhorse’s next contribution having a moan about the £300m we spent, how awful Hurst is, how KM is this that and the other, transfer fees laa dee daa. He won’t be alone.
I went to see Sunderland play at Charlton a few years ago in League One with some chums. I was in the away end and Sunderland were awful and going nowhere that season. Their crowd got right behind them. No jeering, no booing or abusing the players, despite some achingly poor performances. Just solid roaring support. They had a good moan in the pub after but they get behind their players during the game, not on their backs. Proper support.
I moved seats this season. Why? Because of the abuse (in earshot of the players) being dished out by the knucklehead sitting next to me to certain players when he wasn’t giving the Lino stick.
It’s changed. What’s changed? Many things but primarily a sense of entitlement and a failure to understand what sport is by some.
Just my opinion | | | |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 18:02 - Oct 25 with 459 views | The_Major |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 16:57 - Oct 25 by SWLondonBlue93 |
Never mind comparing them to us, when was the last time a promoted side was doing this well at this stage of the season? I've got over any feelings of envy towards them, and ultimately this is a good thing for the league. |
Good question - I mean I remember Charlton, Millwall, and the original version of Wimbledon going top early on in their promoted seasons, and older heads will remember even Carlisle doing that back in the day, but then after about three or four games they normally dropped like a stone.
The only ones I can possibly think of are Graham Taylor's Watford, and Forest under Frank Clark in the 90s? (First game of the season at Portman Road, Bryan Roy scores) |  | | |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 18:05 - Oct 25 with 448 views | LankHenners |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 17:54 - Oct 25 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Not sure how well all these networks can be established when you’ve been out for ten years and in league one since. They obviously at some levels had a better set up with their coach etc but it was by design in many ways we went to the EFL for our shopping. Anyway hopefully we can learn some lessons if we get another chance. |
At ownership (and sightly below) level they're clearly well connected across the continent, that's been pretty obvious since they took over. They're clearly a long way off what the likes of Brighton are doing but a strong contact book is a good start sometimes.
Yeah we did go with the 'knows the leagues' angle on purpose to a degree but McKenna has aired his frustration on several occasions that our set-up, for whatever reason, isn't/wasn't right for broadening our approach in the market. The whys for that are probably ones to aim at our CEO and Chairman.
Hopefully the likes of Matusiwa and Sindre are signs we're prepared now to push the button on that front anyway. | |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 18:06 - Oct 25 with 444 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 18:00 - Oct 25 by Churchman |
No I don’t think so. Just look at the growing Tena Cadre on here. Even when we win a game. Can’t wait for Darkhorse’s next contribution having a moan about the £300m we spent, how awful Hurst is, how KM is this that and the other, transfer fees laa dee daa. He won’t be alone.
I went to see Sunderland play at Charlton a few years ago in League One with some chums. I was in the away end and Sunderland were awful and going nowhere that season. Their crowd got right behind them. No jeering, no booing or abusing the players, despite some achingly poor performances. Just solid roaring support. They had a good moan in the pub after but they get behind their players during the game, not on their backs. Proper support.
I moved seats this season. Why? Because of the abuse (in earshot of the players) being dished out by the knucklehead sitting next to me to certain players when he wasn’t giving the Lino stick.
It’s changed. What’s changed? Many things but primarily a sense of entitlement and a failure to understand what sport is by some.
Just my opinion |
Fair enough! You’re in the crowd and I’m not outside two games a year, so I’m not one to push back on your opinion. What I will say as a general rule of thumb to me is that our away crowd seems good and our home crowd seems quite poor in terms of vocal support (albeit 2025 has hardly been much fun at PR). | |
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| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 18:09 - Oct 25 with 415 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Obligatory “promoted teams doing better than we did” post on 18:05 - Oct 25 by LankHenners |
At ownership (and sightly below) level they're clearly well connected across the continent, that's been pretty obvious since they took over. They're clearly a long way off what the likes of Brighton are doing but a strong contact book is a good start sometimes.
Yeah we did go with the 'knows the leagues' angle on purpose to a degree but McKenna has aired his frustration on several occasions that our set-up, for whatever reason, isn't/wasn't right for broadening our approach in the market. The whys for that are probably ones to aim at our CEO and Chairman.
Hopefully the likes of Matusiwa and Sindre are signs we're prepared now to push the button on that front anyway. |
I just hope we are looking at getting more people into that set up so it’s not just Ashton and his right hand man. I did see for a United scout in recently I think. Anyways probably for another day, a lot of work to do down here first. | |
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