| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge 09:50 - Oct 27 with 1426 views | nrb1985 |
Sorry, I know Rory Stewart and others on the board don't like the ongoing Andrew "chat".
However, this appeared in the standard this morning:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/royals/prince-andrew-fergie-royal-lodge-exit-fro
Can somebody more au fait with this type of thing explain how his ex wife, of 30 years now, is entitled to a free house still?! Surely she's just a private citizen and has been for three decades now?
Pair of absolutely shameless freeloaders. |  | | |  |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 09:55 - Oct 27 with 1365 views | mutters |
IIRC Andrew made a one off payment years ago which entitles him and his descendants to live there for a period of time. It's basically paying a lease/rent upfront but the money was used to refurb the property. If he leaves early then they Crown would have to refund him some of that money.
I can't recall all the details as I read it a while ago, but legally I don't think they can shift him easily |  |
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| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:01 - Oct 27 with 1318 views | DJR |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 09:55 - Oct 27 by mutters |
IIRC Andrew made a one off payment years ago which entitles him and his descendants to live there for a period of time. It's basically paying a lease/rent upfront but the money was used to refurb the property. If he leaves early then they Crown would have to refund him some of that money.
I can't recall all the details as I read it a while ago, but legally I don't think they can shift him easily |
I'd quite happily move into most properties if all I had to pay was the cost of refurbishment, but the more curious thing is how he gets the funds to settle with his accuser and maintain his lavish lifestyle.
It's all very opaque. |  | | |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:22 - Oct 27 with 1201 views | Guthrum |
Sarah isn't entitled to anything. This is just them setting out what they want. Since the divorce, she has no official position within the Royal Family, has been living at Royal Lodge effectively as a guest of Andrew, who actually has a lease - which he paid for (tho where the money for that and required ongong maintenance came from is an interesting question). There is no freeloading involved. |  |
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| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:29 - Oct 27 with 1147 views | nrb1985 |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 09:55 - Oct 27 by mutters |
IIRC Andrew made a one off payment years ago which entitles him and his descendants to live there for a period of time. It's basically paying a lease/rent upfront but the money was used to refurb the property. If he leaves early then they Crown would have to refund him some of that money.
I can't recall all the details as I read it a while ago, but legally I don't think they can shift him easily |
I understand that - unfortunately, a legal contract is a legal contract, but finally he seems to have seen sense and is moving to a more "modest" five bedroom home - lolz.
My post was in relation to his wife. How is she entitled to free anything? | | | |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:30 - Oct 27 with 1139 views | nrb1985 |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:01 - Oct 27 by DJR |
I'd quite happily move into most properties if all I had to pay was the cost of refurbishment, but the more curious thing is how he gets the funds to settle with his accuser and maintain his lavish lifestyle.
It's all very opaque. |
Brilliant that somebody downvoted this!!!
I absolutely love TWTD. | | | |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:30 - Oct 27 with 1144 views | Guthrum |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:01 - Oct 27 by DJR |
I'd quite happily move into most properties if all I had to pay was the cost of refurbishment, but the more curious thing is how he gets the funds to settle with his accuser and maintain his lavish lifestyle.
It's all very opaque. |
Only semi-opaque. It's all "gifts" and loans from "friends", or payments for use of his name/title and contacts by businesses. That's how he got tangled up with the likes of Epstein in the first place.
The opaque bit is exactly who these people are giving him money and what they might get in return.
Andrew doesn't get funding from the Royal Family any more. He will have inherited a reasonable amount and have some investments. Plus his naval officer's pension (which is not much, in the grand scheme of things). | |
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| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:31 - Oct 27 with 1140 views | DarkBrandon |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:29 - Oct 27 by nrb1985 |
I understand that - unfortunately, a legal contract is a legal contract, but finally he seems to have seen sense and is moving to a more "modest" five bedroom home - lolz.
My post was in relation to his wife. How is she entitled to free anything? |
ex-wife. Although they are now apparently back together.
Lets turn the question round.
Should Andrew be prevented from having a companion/partner of his choice living with him. |  | | |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:33 - Oct 27 with 1127 views | Guthrum |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:31 - Oct 27 by DarkBrandon |
ex-wife. Although they are now apparently back together.
Lets turn the question round.
Should Andrew be prevented from having a companion/partner of his choice living with him. |
Tho that isn't really the OP's question. The article suggests Sarah wants a separate house provided, not actually living with Andrew. Nothing to stop them sharing a home. | |
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| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:34 - Oct 27 with 1119 views | Blueschev |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:31 - Oct 27 by DarkBrandon |
ex-wife. Although they are now apparently back together.
Lets turn the question round.
Should Andrew be prevented from having a companion/partner of his choice living with him. |
Do they still have cellmates in prison? |  | | |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:35 - Oct 27 with 1127 views | Swansea_Blue |
There’s something weird going on there. A lot of the papers are now making her and the kids out as victims, but her relationship with Epstein was strange to say the least. The whole issue with Epstein, the payoffs and now the supposed offer of a free mansion in Saudi. It’s all very opaque indeed and feels exceedingly grubby (and potentially some criminality in there of course, that will never be investigated).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddmr6v0jpzo.amp
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| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:39 - Oct 27 with 1069 views | BlueBadger |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:30 - Oct 27 by nrb1985 |
Brilliant that somebody downvoted this!!!
I absolutely love TWTD. |
A DaveU downvote is a basically a sign that you are unerringly correct. |  |
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| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:41 - Oct 27 with 1041 views | nrb1985 |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:33 - Oct 27 by Guthrum |
Tho that isn't really the OP's question. The article suggests Sarah wants a separate house provided, not actually living with Andrew. Nothing to stop them sharing a home. |
Yes, exactly this. | | | |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:41 - Oct 27 with 1045 views | DarkBrandon |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:33 - Oct 27 by Guthrum |
Tho that isn't really the OP's question. The article suggests Sarah wants a separate house provided, not actually living with Andrew. Nothing to stop them sharing a home. |
I'd missed that. The article states they've re-split up following recent events.
I have some sympathy for the royals. Nobody in their right minds would want to be born into that life. He's clearly a grade A a-hole, but I have no objection to what is described in that article. | | | |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 11:07 - Oct 27 with 974 views | nrb1985 |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:35 - Oct 27 by Swansea_Blue |
There’s something weird going on there. A lot of the papers are now making her and the kids out as victims, but her relationship with Epstein was strange to say the least. The whole issue with Epstein, the payoffs and now the supposed offer of a free mansion in Saudi. It’s all very opaque indeed and feels exceedingly grubby (and potentially some criminality in there of course, that will never be investigated).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddmr6v0jpzo.amp
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Indeed.
Quite how somebody marries into one of the richest families in the world and puts themselves in a position where she needs a £15k debt to be paid off by a convicted sex offender is frankly baffling.
I feel sorry for the two daughters - having a pair of absolute wronguns like that for parents can't be fun. | | | |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 11:10 - Oct 27 with 957 views | NthQldITFC |
Is Rory Stewart on this board? I always thought he was a Leicester fan, given his penchant for chasing foxes. |  |
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| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 11:23 - Oct 27 with 862 views | Zx1988 |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 11:07 - Oct 27 by nrb1985 |
Indeed.
Quite how somebody marries into one of the richest families in the world and puts themselves in a position where she needs a £15k debt to be paid off by a convicted sex offender is frankly baffling.
I feel sorry for the two daughters - having a pair of absolute wronguns like that for parents can't be fun. |
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if, behind the scenes, she's playing the line that, if cut off by the Royals, her only alternative income source would be a tell-all memoir. | |
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| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 11:58 - Oct 27 with 736 views | Ftnfwest |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 09:55 - Oct 27 by mutters |
IIRC Andrew made a one off payment years ago which entitles him and his descendants to live there for a period of time. It's basically paying a lease/rent upfront but the money was used to refurb the property. If he leaves early then they Crown would have to refund him some of that money.
I can't recall all the details as I read it a while ago, but legally I don't think they can shift him easily |
I think as it currently stands he's only a couple of years away from the point where he wouldn't get any 'refund' back from CE for the initial capital outlay on the refurbishments (25 years form when they were done?) It's really from that point that he would benefit from the real 'peppercorn' rent situation so at least he loses out on that. |  | | |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 12:53 - Oct 27 with 612 views | Zx1988 |
As for Rory Stewart and his ilk imploring us to focus on the 'bigger issues', do we think this is an honestly-held position?
Or is it more that the Royals are starting to feel the heat a little here, and have turned to some useful mouthpieces to try and persuade us to turn our attentions elsewhere? | |
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| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 14:05 - Oct 27 with 454 views | BlueBadger |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 12:53 - Oct 27 by Zx1988 |
As for Rory Stewart and his ilk imploring us to focus on the 'bigger issues', do we think this is an honestly-held position?
Or is it more that the Royals are starting to feel the heat a little here, and have turned to some useful mouthpieces to try and persuade us to turn our attentions elsewhere? |
It's the old 'you can only care about one thing at a time' fallacy. Plus, why shouldn't we, as a nation, be concerned that a member of the institution which nominally heads the state has all sorts of dodgy associations? | |
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| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 14:13 - Oct 27 with 429 views | Zx1988 |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 14:05 - Oct 27 by BlueBadger |
It's the old 'you can only care about one thing at a time' fallacy. Plus, why shouldn't we, as a nation, be concerned that a member of the institution which nominally heads the state has all sorts of dodgy associations? |
Not to mention the growing feeling that 'The Establishment' are helping the Royals to try and brush it all under the rug.
Case in point being The Speaker 'correcting' the House of Commons that they are allowed to discuss Prince Andrew in The House, but only under the auspices of a dedicated motion/debate:
https://www.thenational.scot/news/25565420.speaker-addresses-inaccuracies-mps-ca
At which point, the Government stated that they would not be allowing time for any such debate:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpv1rr1znveo | |
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| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 15:10 - Oct 27 with 325 views | Axeldalai_lama |
I read that as 'brush it all under the flag'. Which whilst logistically challenging seems quite an apt turn of phrase. |  | | |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 15:36 - Oct 27 with 260 views | Denny32 |
When asked on his way out, was he under pressure, and will he find it hard to find a home now ,.NO SWEAT ,was his reply 😆 | | | |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 15:47 - Oct 27 with 236 views | ronnyd |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 10:01 - Oct 27 by DJR |
I'd quite happily move into most properties if all I had to pay was the cost of refurbishment, but the more curious thing is how he gets the funds to settle with his accuser and maintain his lavish lifestyle.
It's all very opaque. |
Bank of Mum i reckon. When Queen Lizzie finally passed his meal ticket died with her. | | | |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 16:45 - Oct 27 with 125 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 15:47 - Oct 27 by ronnyd |
Bank of Mum i reckon. When Queen Lizzie finally passed his meal ticket died with her. |
Apparently Charles arrange a loan for that payment. From whom I’m not sure. Wherever article I read that in didn’t make it sound like the Wuuen was the source of the loan. I think it referred to her also contributing, but it very sounded like the bulk of the payment was from somewhere else.
Dodgy as.
I’m neutral on the idea of a Royal Family (can see pros and cons and don’t care enough to pick a side), but if we’re going to have them they should be held to the same standards as the rest of us. | |
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| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 16:54 - Oct 27 with 92 views | DarkBrandon |
| Andrew leaving Royal Lodge on 16:45 - Oct 27 by Swansea_Blue |
Apparently Charles arrange a loan for that payment. From whom I’m not sure. Wherever article I read that in didn’t make it sound like the Wuuen was the source of the loan. I think it referred to her also contributing, but it very sounded like the bulk of the payment was from somewhere else.
Dodgy as.
I’m neutral on the idea of a Royal Family (can see pros and cons and don’t care enough to pick a side), but if we’re going to have them they should be held to the same standards as the rest of us. |
But you aren't holding them to the same standards. You wouldn't have to publicly disclose the source of funds for any legal settlement you made. | | | |
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