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Philogene 23:03 - Nov 8 with 5891 viewsFrimleyBlue

As I ask this question to those who were in attendance today and the qpr game

Is he celebrating with the team when he's not scoring? V qpr on the replays when hirst scored he was sorting his socks out rather than running to hirst ( I add that's what the tele showed

Today when azon scored he was in the pic when he scored but wasn't one of those on the replay to run over to him.


Disclaimer. I am not asking this for some of those to get involved with bad attitude etc. But more of how could we get him to feel more included outside of when he scores. Its just sad to see someone coming across as isolated.


Hopefully those in attendance can share that he does indeed run over etc.


And again. Those last week who went down the bad attitude stuff I dont buy into that. But self exclusion can be a worrying sign and could be a signal that hes not feeling part of it all which in any part of life is a horrible situation to be in.
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Philogene on 23:11 - Nov 9 with 994 viewsreusersfreekicks

Philogene on 21:08 - Nov 9 by FrimleyBlue

I asked a fken question.

Fk sake what is with this forum. No i dont know fk all about him. Hence I asked. I also stated very clearly it was based on very brief tv highlights and asked very specifically of those who had the bigger picture.

I wanted to ask it earlier in the day but didn't know how to ask it without posters trying to take the post for more than it was. And I make it clear I didn't want the bad attitude people seeing it as an opportunity to jump in either.

I wish people could just have an open discussion on here.

If it were histric frimmers asking i can understand your issue. But its not. And I think ive been proving that.

Im off otherwise im going to get emotional about it.

But yeah come on guys. Open yourselves up to open discussions without the need for ridicule and aggression.
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Come on. This is the wrong hill to die on.
SB is right.
A thread about a player's mental health based on goal celebrations.
Just smacks of trying to find a reason for another thread. Itnonsense.
You deserve credit for your transformation as a poster but you got this one wrong imo
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Philogene on 23:19 - Nov 9 with 970 viewsNutkins_Return

Philogene on 10:41 - Nov 9 by FrimleyBlue

Apologies to sharing a slight concern for a players mental health chelts.

But majority of replies have been great and answered my op.

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This is absolutely ridiculous. That's such a silly leap to something more serious.

The problem is I don't think people are buying your intentions and this sort of response is daft and doesn't help that. Let's not go bringing in the lads 'mental health' because you are not sure if he celebrated a goal. You must see that at best is silly.

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Philogene on 23:22 - Nov 9 with 955 viewsDropCliffsNotBombs

Philogene on 21:37 - Nov 9 by FrimleyBlue

I'd already got some answers SB and that was that. Then you piped up with your view. If you read the thread you'd seen i asked. Got answers. The end.


Mate. Really you've been a lot better recently and you're right that you shouldn't be put up against your past self.

So please reflect back on this individual post and realise it's really poor.
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Philogene on 00:16 - Nov 10 with 902 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Philogene on 10:41 - Nov 9 by FrimleyBlue

Apologies to sharing a slight concern for a players mental health chelts.

But majority of replies have been great and answered my op.

[Post edited 9 Nov 10:43]


Yeah. Not what you were doing at all, but you keep doing you.

Not sure how you think your post on a forum is supposed to help him become more part of the team, but you knock yourself out.

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Philogene on 09:52 - Nov 10 with 757 viewsChris_ITFC

Weird and dangerous speculation (again), and even weirder edits.

Discussing another person’s mental health, without their permission, on a public forum, is not helpful or appropriate.

Not that that has anything to do with your OP in the first place.

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Philogene on 10:06 - Nov 10 with 733 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Philogene on 21:08 - Nov 9 by FrimleyBlue

I asked a fken question.

Fk sake what is with this forum. No i dont know fk all about him. Hence I asked. I also stated very clearly it was based on very brief tv highlights and asked very specifically of those who had the bigger picture.

I wanted to ask it earlier in the day but didn't know how to ask it without posters trying to take the post for more than it was. And I make it clear I didn't want the bad attitude people seeing it as an opportunity to jump in either.

I wish people could just have an open discussion on here.

If it were histric frimmers asking i can understand your issue. But its not. And I think ive been proving that.

Im off otherwise im going to get emotional about it.

But yeah come on guys. Open yourselves up to open discussions without the need for ridicule and aggression.
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People can have an open discussion on most things on here - I don't think speculating on another person's mental health is one of them. This is not an attack on you because you're Frimmers, I'd say it whoever posted it.

Look at it this way - how do you think Philogene's family would feel if they read someone online, who doesn't know him, discussing his mental health? How would you feel if we discussed yours? It's just not right Frimmers, and I hope once you reflect on that you'll understand it wasn't right.

And I'm afraid saying you were just asking a question doesn't cut it. Questions are invariably loaded, or will be seen to be loaded even if they were innocently asked (which I do believe yours usually are).

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Philogene on 10:17 - Nov 10 with 706 viewsMrPotatoHead

Philogene on 23:19 - Nov 9 by Nutkins_Return

This is absolutely ridiculous. That's such a silly leap to something more serious.

The problem is I don't think people are buying your intentions and this sort of response is daft and doesn't help that. Let's not go bringing in the lads 'mental health' because you are not sure if he celebrated a goal. You must see that at best is silly.


I can't work out whether he's trying to be subtle in his negativity or he's just an absolute lemon.

Either way, not a good look.
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Philogene on 10:36 - Nov 10 with 680 viewsGlasgowBlue

Philogene on 10:17 - Nov 10 by MrPotatoHead

I can't work out whether he's trying to be subtle in his negativity or he's just an absolute lemon.

Either way, not a good look.


Looks like Frimmers has withdraw from the conversation. Whether people agree with him or not, is there any point in post after post keeping this going in order to have a pop at him?

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Philogene on 10:50 - Nov 10 with 657 viewsMrPotatoHead

Philogene on 10:36 - Nov 10 by GlasgowBlue

Looks like Frimmers has withdraw from the conversation. Whether people agree with him or not, is there any point in post after post keeping this going in order to have a pop at him?


He was posting on it shortly before 10pm last night, some 24 hours after he created it. It's not as if people are digging up an old thread to call him out.

Why shouldn't others be allowed to offer their view, isn't that what Frimley is vouching for himself in this thread?
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Philogene on 11:21 - Nov 10 with 603 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Philogene on 10:36 - Nov 10 by GlasgowBlue

Looks like Frimmers has withdraw from the conversation. Whether people agree with him or not, is there any point in post after post keeping this going in order to have a pop at him?


There's no evidence he's learnt and accepted he's in the wrong, so if people think he is they're perfectly entitled to point it out. My post was certainly not "to have a pop at him" but to calmly, and I hope respectfuly, explain why I think he's wrong.

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Philogene on 12:14 - Nov 10 with 557 viewsGodzilla

Philogene on 10:36 - Nov 10 by GlasgowBlue

Looks like Frimmers has withdraw from the conversation. Whether people agree with him or not, is there any point in post after post keeping this going in order to have a pop at him?


Agree, Mr Frims can really grind my gears at times, but is good value on here.
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Philogene on 12:39 - Nov 10 with 526 viewsMrPotatoHead

Philogene on 12:14 - Nov 10 by Godzilla

Agree, Mr Frims can really grind my gears at times, but is good value on here.


Nobody has suggested otherwise FFS.
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Philogene on 13:14 - Nov 10 with 490 viewsChris_ITFC

Philogene on 11:21 - Nov 10 by The_Flashing_Smile

There's no evidence he's learnt and accepted he's in the wrong, so if people think he is they're perfectly entitled to point it out. My post was certainly not "to have a pop at him" but to calmly, and I hope respectfuly, explain why I think he's wrong.


Likewise. I just replied to the top thread when I logged on, and noted a theme.

If he’d backed out of the dig at Jaden, rather than coming up with the mental health stuff, this thread would’ve been in the TWTD archives long before I even saw it.

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Philogene on 13:16 - Nov 10 with 487 viewsitfcsuth

Think you’re reading too much into nothing here Frimmers.

I think you can have a view point on his performance levels that we see on the pitch, but don’t need to analysis to this extreme.

Whilst I know what you mean, sometimes he does look not disinterested, but a little bit laboured, from what I’ve been told he’s actually a lovely lad, if a bit reserved, Broady was very similar in character.
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Philogene on 13:22 - Nov 10 with 473 viewsFlittonBlue

Philogene always seems to be one quiet game or one incident away from a pile on after the saga of his will he / wont he sign for Town. Over the years there has always been at least one player in every Town squad who the more outspoken Town fans will turn on far quicker than others...for some reason Jermaine Wright comes to mind!
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Philogene on 13:29 - Nov 10 with 451 viewsFrimleyBlue

Philogene on 13:14 - Nov 10 by Chris_ITFC

Likewise. I just replied to the top thread when I logged on, and noted a theme.

If he’d backed out of the dig at Jaden, rather than coming up with the mental health stuff, this thread would’ve been in the TWTD archives long before I even saw it.


look, i made the post on 8th nov 11.03

Despite your presumption, it wasn't a 'dig' at at philogene, i made that clear in my op. very clear

should i have posted it, clearly not, and won't go down that discussion in future

At 23: 25 the same night, i responded to a couple of excellent replies and advised they had answered my op.

My last reply was to chelts the following day as i was showing i had my op answered.

Subsequently, people jumped in, and yes i reacted last night, because i didn't see the need when i'd felt i'd closed the thread effectively twice by saying i'd had answers.

Yet still at 13:14 you're still posting within said thread, now for some reason calling it a dig at philogene, it's not, wasn't and won't be as i like philogene.

The reason i asked the question was because self exclusion has been a discussion i've been having in my own mental health group. I don't need anyone to understand that, but i would like people to take on board when i tried to shut down the thread and showed that i had obtained the answers i was looking for and got the answers required to the intent of the op.

Anways, i will leave this now, if you all want to carry on with it fine, im not going to defend myself on it any further.

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Philogene on 13:55 - Nov 10 with 400 viewsChris_ITFC

Philogene on 13:29 - Nov 10 by FrimleyBlue

look, i made the post on 8th nov 11.03

Despite your presumption, it wasn't a 'dig' at at philogene, i made that clear in my op. very clear

should i have posted it, clearly not, and won't go down that discussion in future

At 23: 25 the same night, i responded to a couple of excellent replies and advised they had answered my op.

My last reply was to chelts the following day as i was showing i had my op answered.

Subsequently, people jumped in, and yes i reacted last night, because i didn't see the need when i'd felt i'd closed the thread effectively twice by saying i'd had answers.

Yet still at 13:14 you're still posting within said thread, now for some reason calling it a dig at philogene, it's not, wasn't and won't be as i like philogene.

The reason i asked the question was because self exclusion has been a discussion i've been having in my own mental health group. I don't need anyone to understand that, but i would like people to take on board when i tried to shut down the thread and showed that i had obtained the answers i was looking for and got the answers required to the intent of the op.

Anways, i will leave this now, if you all want to carry on with it fine, im not going to defend myself on it any further.


Like I said, I replied when the thread was at the top of the forum, regardless of your 11:03 and 23:25. Whatever kept it at the top of the forum is nothing to do with me - that’s just how forum’s work.

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Philogene on 21:05 - Nov 12 with 232 viewsSitfcB

Philogene is out in Egypt with Kipre, video of them running together on Instagram.

Players given a few days off as McKenna said, most of them seem to have jetted off to warmer climes.

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