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Anderson over Bellingham for me 18:43 - Nov 16 with 2123 viewsRIPbobby

Bellingham is clearly the better footballer, but I think what Anderson does for the team is much more beneficial.

In the rules of sir Alf id pick the best team and not players. Just like Jack Taylor being ahead of Cajuste at the moment. Deffo makes for a better team, just like I said a few months back.
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They play different positions. (n/t) on 18:44 - Nov 16 with 1965 viewsBloots


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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 18:44 - Nov 16 with 1971 viewsHerbivore

Rogers is the one who's been playing instead of Bellingham and doing so admirably. Anderson plays a bit deeper alongside Rice.

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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 18:45 - Nov 16 with 1956 viewsNutkins_Return

That's not a decision that is required to make. Bellingham plays 10 for England.

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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 18:46 - Nov 16 with 1953 viewsvapour_trail

As nobody else will point this out, they occupy different positions in the team.

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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 18:51 - Nov 16 with 1904 viewsRIPbobby

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 18:46 - Nov 16 by vapour_trail

As nobody else will point this out, they occupy different positions in the team.


I was kind of meaning they will almost never play in the same team as has been the case lately. Anderson is like having 2 players.
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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 21:00 - Nov 16 with 1730 viewsitfctilidie

Most other countries would take Bellingham (best player) and build a team and style around him. Not England. See also Paul Scholes
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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 21:13 - Nov 16 with 1693 viewsArnieM

I find Bellingham just very arrogant. I'd agree re Anderson over him becuase hes not " lording it about" .....

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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 22:09 - Nov 16 with 1560 viewsdavblue

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 21:00 - Nov 16 by itfctilidie

Most other countries would take Bellingham (best player) and build a team and style around him. Not England. See also Paul Scholes


Carrick should have had 100 caps in our midfield.
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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 22:15 - Nov 16 with 1525 viewsvapour_trail

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 22:09 - Nov 16 by davblue

Carrick should have had 100 caps in our midfield.


Certainly should have had more than he got.

Those two noughties CM places (was always a 442) had scholes, carrick, lampard, gerrard, hargreaves all in the mix.

Personally, I think gerrard got many more than he should have done. I do always seem to be in the minority on this view though.

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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 22:17 - Nov 16 with 1518 viewsJ2BLUE

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 21:13 - Nov 16 by ArnieM

I find Bellingham just very arrogant. I'd agree re Anderson over him becuase hes not " lording it about" .....


Can't disagree with this. He seems like an epic bell and the media are making no secret of it that Tuchel is trying to take him down a peg.

The England team is generally filled with good characters (Kane, Saka, Burn, Rice, Rashford, Eze, Watkins etc) but I have to admit I am no Bellingham fan.

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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 00:07 - Nov 17 with 1339 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 21:00 - Nov 16 by itfctilidie

Most other countries would take Bellingham (best player) and build a team and style around him. Not England. See also Paul Scholes


Not sure he is our best player tbh.

I prefer Rice and Wharton in midfield Saka Bellingham Rashford in front behind Kane.

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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 04:44 - Nov 17 with 1243 viewsfranz_tyson

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 21:00 - Nov 16 by itfctilidie

Most other countries would take Bellingham (best player) and build a team and style around him. Not England. See also Paul Scholes


We've tried desperately to shoe horn big name players into the team where they're playing out of position or getting in each other's way. I like that Tuchel has a plan and the players have to fit. It means you don't get picked on reputation. If Bellingham is the best 10 we have.... he gets picked. It's up to him to prove that.
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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 08:34 - Nov 17 with 1044 viewsvilanovablue

I'll put the different positions issue aside. I think that Tuchel wants a squad happy to be in the squad not feeling entitled that they should be there and playing. We're fortunate we have such strength and depth that we could consider going to the WC without him.
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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 08:46 - Nov 17 with 1018 viewsBiGDonnie

Not having Bellingham in the team is a joke. Another tournament we're going to mess up incoming.

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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 09:19 - Nov 17 with 944 viewsrickw

At the moment I think Tuchel's England XI would be:
________Pickford
James Stones Guehi O'Reilly
_____Anderson Rice
Saka___Bellingham_Rashford
________Kane

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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 09:53 - Nov 17 with 830 viewsLeoMuff

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 08:46 - Nov 17 by BiGDonnie

Not having Bellingham in the team is a joke. Another tournament we're going to mess up incoming.


Avoiding the point that we have played better without him by far.

We need to learn the lessons the past the best players don’t always make the best teams, you can have the best 11 in the world but if the atmosphere is toxic it wont work.

The golden generation it has now come out , stuck to cliques and didn’t mix, whereas Southgate brought lessers players into a team. The results speak for themselves.

Bellingham appears to have a bit of an attitude problem from Tuchels comments and his behaviour last night when subbed, and if that is deemed enough to unbalance the team as a whole he should be left out.

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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 11:04 - Nov 17 with 740 viewsvilanovablue

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 09:53 - Nov 17 by LeoMuff

Avoiding the point that we have played better without him by far.

We need to learn the lessons the past the best players don’t always make the best teams, you can have the best 11 in the world but if the atmosphere is toxic it wont work.

The golden generation it has now come out , stuck to cliques and didn’t mix, whereas Southgate brought lessers players into a team. The results speak for themselves.

Bellingham appears to have a bit of an attitude problem from Tuchels comments and his behaviour last night when subbed, and if that is deemed enough to unbalance the team as a whole he should be left out.


A bit of an attitude problem is probably underplaying it. We need a team to all be on the same page and at the moment Bellingham clearly isn't. I recognize he is a great player but if you have a lousy attitude which will be tolerated at Real Madrid as they have a squad of players with attitude. At international level you really need everyone aligned.
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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 13:56 - Nov 17 with 556 viewscoote

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 22:15 - Nov 16 by vapour_trail

Certainly should have had more than he got.

Those two noughties CM places (was always a 442) had scholes, carrick, lampard, gerrard, hargreaves all in the mix.

Personally, I think gerrard got many more than he should have done. I do always seem to be in the minority on this view though.


Lampard waaaaaaay better than Gerrard.
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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 14:01 - Nov 17 with 542 viewscressi

Don't matter who plays semi finals at best.Has the last 60 yrs taught nobody nothing. False hope and such.
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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 14:08 - Nov 17 with 527 viewsFrimleyBlue

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 08:46 - Nov 17 by BiGDonnie

Not having Bellingham in the team is a joke. Another tournament we're going to mess up incoming.


He impressed me when i first started watching him

But in alot of his most recent past english games, he reminds me of of a celina type player. Didn't do alot for 89 minutes, scores in the 90th and gets the plaudits of being amazing.

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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 14:26 - Nov 17 with 513 viewsHerbivore

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 13:56 - Nov 17 by coote

Lampard waaaaaaay better than Gerrard.


At scoring goals, sure. As an all round footballer, Gerrard was far superior. Lampard seems more likeable whereas Gerrard has always seemed a bit of a bellend but in terms of ability, Gerrard was a much better player.

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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 17:59 - Nov 17 with 347 viewscoote

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 14:26 - Nov 17 by Herbivore

At scoring goals, sure. As an all round footballer, Gerrard was far superior. Lampard seems more likeable whereas Gerrard has always seemed a bit of a bellend but in terms of ability, Gerrard was a much better player.


I disagree.

Look at their trophy cabinets.
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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 18:01 - Nov 17 with 344 viewsHerbivore

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 17:59 - Nov 17 by coote

I disagree.

Look at their trophy cabinets.


That's a daft way to judge individual players. Phil Neville has a more impressive trophy cabinet than Gerrard as well, doesn't make him a better player.

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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 18:03 - Nov 17 with 340 viewscoote

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 18:01 - Nov 17 by Herbivore

That's a daft way to judge individual players. Phil Neville has a more impressive trophy cabinet than Gerrard as well, doesn't make him a better player.


More goals
More assists
More appearances.


Gerrard could hit the ball harder.
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Anderson over Bellingham for me on 18:06 - Nov 17 with 336 viewsHerbivore

Anderson over Bellingham for me on 18:03 - Nov 17 by coote

More goals
More assists
More appearances.


Gerrard could hit the ball harder.


Gerrard was a much more complete player than Lampard.

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