| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 18:35 - Nov 22 with 3178 views | jasondozzell |
These types of games happen.
Far too much knee jerk overreaction.
Fairly sanguine. Controlled the game. Should have won. Move on.
Squad players need confidence not moans. Chuba wasn't as bad as many saying. Some good things in there and good touch at times. Unsurprisingly still adapting to new surroundings.
Even the boos at the end were embarrassed.
Everyone's been spoilt. Home draw in November isn't a crisis.
Onto the next one.
For me it's meh and onto Hull. [Post edited 22 Nov 18:40]
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| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 20:12 - Nov 22 with 487 views | Illinoisblue |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 19:43 - Nov 22 by Blue_Heath |
We've failed to win more than half of our home games this season despite having been a PL side and spending £150m and playing nobody of note i.e. above us in the table.
That is simply not good enough. |
The home results are a massive worry. That’s what will stop us getting up if we don’t figure it out. |  |
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| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 20:13 - Nov 22 with 481 views | itfcsuth |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 18:43 - Nov 22 by jasondozzell |
Philogene wasn't awful.
They are not miles off it
You know that yourself I'm sure.
'Something is not quite right' - what because no team no matter how much dosh spent has a divine right to win every game 2-0?
Presumably you were saying the same about the league one team after Bristol Rovers. |
Philogene was so poor, so ineffective when doesn’t drop a worldy from 25 yards.
They’re so far off the quality you would want to see it is actually frightening, we have a direct comparable to the 23/24 season and squad, and the gap is day and night.
Something isn’t right, when we replaced a record breaking squad by spending £100m to upgrade, and end up going backwards, yes I would probably say something isn’t quite right.
And we were 4th in the division in February when we drew at Bristol, if we are 4th in the Championship in February I’ll be amazed. |  | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 20:16 - Nov 22 with 476 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 20:01 - Nov 22 by Vaughan8 |
I know you're on a high after seeing your precious Broadhead today but come on.
These results are nothing like 23/24. We scored goals that season. This season we are so hopeless in front of goal in most games.
When it clicks we get 4 or 5, but so many times we get 0 or 1. |
Was great to see Broady. Just glad he didn't score!
We drew those games in 23/24.
The team in 23/24 had been together and working with KM for 18 months. Not 10 weeks.
If you thought this season would be a 23/24 repeat then I think that's a misunderstanding of how football works.
We are 6 points off second with a game in hand. Let KM get on with it. | | | |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 20:18 - Nov 22 with 473 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 20:13 - Nov 22 by itfcsuth |
Philogene was so poor, so ineffective when doesn’t drop a worldy from 25 yards.
They’re so far off the quality you would want to see it is actually frightening, we have a direct comparable to the 23/24 season and squad, and the gap is day and night.
Something isn’t right, when we replaced a record breaking squad by spending £100m to upgrade, and end up going backwards, yes I would probably say something isn’t quite right.
And we were 4th in the division in February when we drew at Bristol, if we are 4th in the Championship in February I’ll be amazed. |
Let's see. I can guarantee you we will finish top 6. I suspect we'll be pleased with the final position in there too.
23/24 was a one off footballing fairytale. The idea that this season was going to be an easy replica of that is nuts imo.
Read KM's comments from today. He's spot on i would say. | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 20:23 - Nov 22 with 474 views | algy |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 19:43 - Nov 22 by Blue_Heath |
We've failed to win more than half of our home games this season despite having been a PL side and spending £150m and playing nobody of note i.e. above us in the table.
That is simply not good enough. |
And that follows the season with the worst home record on our history. Yes the PL was as tough as expected but KM managed to lose to the only team worse than his and only draw with the other team relegated with us by a mile. 4 home wins in 2025 with just over a month to go. |  |
| Veni Vidi Participatur. Now we can get back to competing. |
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| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 21:03 - Nov 22 with 414 views | Blue_Heath |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 20:23 - Nov 22 by algy |
And that follows the season with the worst home record on our history. Yes the PL was as tough as expected but KM managed to lose to the only team worse than his and only draw with the other team relegated with us by a mile. 4 home wins in 2025 with just over a month to go. |
Yes, the home form over the year is alarming to put it mildly. At least we beat that lot up the road tho, | |
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| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 21:12 - Nov 22 with 408 views | DavoIPB |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 19:07 - Nov 22 by jasondozzell |
By how many points clear at the top of the table would you say we have to be in November for you to be satisfied? |
We should be in Coventry's position with the amount of money we have spent. It's what most parachute teams do. | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 21:24 - Nov 22 with 398 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 20:16 - Nov 22 by jasondozzell |
Was great to see Broady. Just glad he didn't score!
We drew those games in 23/24.
The team in 23/24 had been together and working with KM for 18 months. Not 10 weeks.
If you thought this season would be a 23/24 repeat then I think that's a misunderstanding of how football works.
We are 6 points off second with a game in hand. Let KM get on with it. |
And you clearly don’t understand anything about football economics or how bang average this league is. |  |
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| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 07:15 - Nov 23 with 343 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 21:12 - Nov 22 by DavoIPB |
We should be in Coventry's position with the amount of money we have spent. It's what most parachute teams do. |
Interesting then that Saints and Leicester aren't.
Leeds didn't find it all straight forward last season.
And we've had huge amount of change. | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 07:20 - Nov 23 with 340 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 21:24 - Nov 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
And you clearly don’t understand anything about football economics or how bang average this league is. |
Football economics does not mean that spending equals success. That's the opposite of how it works!
Look at KM's comments from yesterday. He's spelling it out. He's knitting together a new team and squad. Even Jaden is like a new player!
Being patient and getting behind them will be a lot more fun I promise when we have success at the end of the season. | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 09:51 - Nov 23 with 315 views | itfcsuth |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 07:20 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
Football economics does not mean that spending equals success. That's the opposite of how it works!
Look at KM's comments from yesterday. He's spelling it out. He's knitting together a new team and squad. Even Jaden is like a new player!
Being patient and getting behind them will be a lot more fun I promise when we have success at the end of the season. |
“Football economics does not mean that spending equals success. That's the opposite of how it works!”
Why did we spend then? | | | |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 09:55 - Nov 23 with 312 views | itfcsuth |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 20:18 - Nov 22 by jasondozzell |
Let's see. I can guarantee you we will finish top 6. I suspect we'll be pleased with the final position in there too.
23/24 was a one off footballing fairytale. The idea that this season was going to be an easy replica of that is nuts imo.
Read KM's comments from today. He's spot on i would say. |
If we are in the play-offs it would be a disappointment, because it means you are not in the automatic.
You are then in a lottery with 3 others for 1 spot - case of Sheffield Utd last season is a great reference point.
The attempt to positively spin how far backwards we have gone is really strange to me. | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 10:02 - Nov 23 with 306 views | Blue_Heath |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 07:20 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
Football economics does not mean that spending equals success. That's the opposite of how it works!
Look at KM's comments from yesterday. He's spelling it out. He's knitting together a new team and squad. Even Jaden is like a new player!
Being patient and getting behind them will be a lot more fun I promise when we have success at the end of the season. |
But he's not knitting a team together, how many changes yesterday? 5? How many next Tuesday/Friday/Tuesday ? how many in previous two games? Pick an 11 and stick with it unless injuries or form become an issue. We had great partnerships all over the pitch in last L1/Champ season now we are a bunch of strangers with no leaders. | |
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| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 10:02 - Nov 23 with 307 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 07:20 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
Football economics does not mean that spending equals success. That's the opposite of how it works!
Look at KM's comments from yesterday. He's spelling it out. He's knitting together a new team and squad. Even Jaden is like a new player!
Being patient and getting behind them will be a lot more fun I promise when we have success at the end of the season. |
We all know spending money does not automatically guarantee success, but come on... you only need to look at the Championship in recent years to see how much of an advantage it is to be in receipt of parachute payments. Burnley had a bigger squad turnover last summer than we did this year, and they scored 100 points. 80% of the league can't afford to drop £10m on a single player, let alone multiple in the same window.
I do believe we will pick up as the season goes on and still believe we can make top two, but up to this point we have underachieved. | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 11:16 - Nov 23 with 284 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 09:51 - Nov 23 by itfcsuth |
“Football economics does not mean that spending equals success. That's the opposite of how it works!”
Why did we spend then? |
Because we are trying to recruit better players for a big step up which we are hoping to bridge!
But if financial cost was all that mattered we might as well just have a league table if bank accounts. | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 11:17 - Nov 23 with 283 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 10:02 - Nov 23 by Blue_Heath |
But he's not knitting a team together, how many changes yesterday? 5? How many next Tuesday/Friday/Tuesday ? how many in previous two games? Pick an 11 and stick with it unless injuries or form become an issue. We had great partnerships all over the pitch in last L1/Champ season now we are a bunch of strangers with no leaders. |
KM has always done this because he sees the long term benefit of a fully involved squad and squad depth.
We're not a bunch of strangers with no leaders. We're still a side finding itself. We are going in the right direction. | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 11:19 - Nov 23 with 282 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 10:02 - Nov 23 by SWLondonBlue93 |
We all know spending money does not automatically guarantee success, but come on... you only need to look at the Championship in recent years to see how much of an advantage it is to be in receipt of parachute payments. Burnley had a bigger squad turnover last summer than we did this year, and they scored 100 points. 80% of the league can't afford to drop £10m on a single player, let alone multiple in the same window.
I do believe we will pick up as the season goes on and still believe we can make top two, but up to this point we have underachieved. |
Of course it's a huge advantage and quite rightly we should expect to be competitive at the top of this division. I don't disagree.
But it's not a video game. It doesn't just happen by pressing a button. Whole host of other factors including huge change, KM building a new side and squad, relegation hangover, pressure etc. It's complex!
I am pretty confident we will finish top two. | | | |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 11:22 - Nov 23 with 277 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 09:55 - Nov 23 by itfcsuth |
If we are in the play-offs it would be a disappointment, because it means you are not in the automatic.
You are then in a lottery with 3 others for 1 spot - case of Sheffield Utd last season is a great reference point.
The attempt to positively spin how far backwards we have gone is really strange to me. |
If we finish in the play offs we finish in the play offs and we'll have a good chance of winning them.
You can't just say 'i demand we are top two all season and if we're not I'm kicking off'
KM is at great pains to explain where we are every week and I'd say his analysis is worth more everyone else's put together! | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 11:26 - Nov 23 with 271 views | Blue_Heath |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 18:45 - Nov 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
How about Derby, Charlton, Watford and Wrexham in 2025?
Even sticking up for that Akpom performance?! Good grief! |
and Southampton.
Let's be honest a team going up would expect to win 4 of those. | |
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| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 11:33 - Nov 23 with 265 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Hladky
B Williams
Woolfy
Burgess
Humphreys
Ball
Luongo
Omari
Chaplin
Harness
Ladapo
That was our team vs QPR. Hardly comparable. |  |
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| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 12:33 - Nov 23 with 250 views | gainsboroughblue |
Those two games cited were in that period where we were blowing out of our backside before the transfer window. We were already on a ropy run having drawn with them up the road, been pummeled at Leeds and then lost Hirst to injury in a draw v Leicester.
I believe we also lost someone in the pre match warm up v QPR (want to say Chappers). and we had to bring Gérard Buabo in to ne our off the bench striking option. [Post edited 23 Nov 12:34]
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| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 12:39 - Nov 23 with 236 views | waveneyblue |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 18:50 - Nov 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Errr. Can you explain the relevance of two back to back Christmas games in a few days with an injured side compared to a home performance coming off an international break?
Especially when we were in the top 2 with a league 1 squad at the time and we are currently outside the playoffs with a parachute squad 150M squad.
Also that’s one win in 4 at home (scoring two goals in the process)
Context is lost on you a bit isn’t it!
Embarrassing really. |
I looked at the upvotes on this and I had to smile.
Hinge and Brackett working in tandem.
Lovely stuff |  | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 16:22 - Nov 23 with 192 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 07:20 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
Football economics does not mean that spending equals success. That's the opposite of how it works!
Look at KM's comments from yesterday. He's spelling it out. He's knitting together a new team and squad. Even Jaden is like a new player!
Being patient and getting behind them will be a lot more fun I promise when we have success at the end of the season. |
“That’s the opposite of how it works”
You’re really not very bright are you.
Maybe look at how many clubs that have filled the automatic spots over the last decade have been parachute clubs. Clue, it’s quite a lot. Do you think that has any financial correlation? | |
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| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 16:24 - Nov 23 with 189 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 12:39 - Nov 23 by waveneyblue |
I looked at the upvotes on this and I had to smile.
Hinge and Brackett working in tandem.
Lovely stuff |
Maybe reply to the points of the post if you disagree with it.
You can’t because it’s true. | |
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| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 18:34 - Nov 23 with 147 views | waveneyblue |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 16:24 - Nov 23 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Maybe reply to the points of the post if you disagree with it.
You can’t because it’s true. |
I can but its no point in arguing with a stuck record like you.
So i wont bother thanks all the same | | | |
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