| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today 09:51 - Nov 26 with 4657 views | itfcjoe |
Over the last 10 years it seems to have been totally forgotten who drives the country in wealth creation |  |
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| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 21:38 - Nov 26 with 713 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 21:17 - Nov 26 by J2BLUE |
It means that an average day which takes six members of staff will be forced to function with five (or less). Not doing the work isn't an option which leads to being constantly rushed and working through breaks etc.
Then you may have someone on annual leave. So six becomes five becomes four. Etc etc. Where I work takes six to do the work on an average day. We have had as few as three at times. No changes are ever made to the way the team works. We're just expected to deal with it.
If you don't mind me saying, your question is a bit naive. Upper management generally couldn't care less about piling more and more work on staff and just magically expecting it to be dealt with. It's a seven day a week operation and another department had two people until recently. I have previously worked in that same situation. Cutting staff costs is a decision made in a boardroom. The actual consequences are for others to deal with.
FWIW both companies were/are owned by billionaires. |
What it really means is that, if workers have strong rights, companies that cut and pay low wages will fail because they wont have enough staff to perform well and compete. Thats how it should be. |  |
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| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 21:41 - Nov 26 with 708 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 21:31 - Nov 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
And there it is at the end. Of course, there is a degree to which others pick up the slack for short periods of time as you describe but it isn't going to work if they reduce staffing like that. There will be profitability impacts due to sickness, drop in quality, missed deadlines, staff dissatisfaction, etc.
How did the company owners become billionaires? If they pay a few thousand more to employees and take even hundreds of thousands less out of the business, would they still be billionaires? How much money does someone need?
I recommend "The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists" as a good read. |
Have an uppie for the Tressell reference, "a book that everyone should read". |  |
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| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 22:11 - Nov 26 with 687 views | bartyg |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 19:28 - Nov 26 by You_Bloo_Right |
Those were more egalitarian days.
Now it's more, "Why should I help fund my parents' old age? What have they ever done for me?" |
Yeah, because their parent's estate is 25x theirs.. |  |
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| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 22:14 - Nov 26 with 675 views | bartyg |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 21:11 - Nov 26 by You_Bloo_Right |
Or, with or without a world war, there was a tad more respect and acceptance of collective responsibility. Or perhaps society was seen as a "thing" (pre-1987 obviously).
Who can say? |
Really not vibing with this. The generation who can't accept collective responsibility are the ones who grew up in the post war boom, have lived through comparatively economic heaven and are now determined to pull the ladder up on the basis that young people are annoying sometimes. | |
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| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 22:24 - Nov 26 with 643 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 22:11 - Nov 26 by bartyg |
Yeah, because their parent's estate is 25x theirs.. |
“All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.” | |
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| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 22:26 - Nov 26 with 635 views | mellowblue |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 21:11 - Nov 26 by You_Bloo_Right |
Or, with or without a world war, there was a tad more respect and acceptance of collective responsibility. Or perhaps society was seen as a "thing" (pre-1987 obviously).
Who can say? |
Hard to say, but I have never begrudged a pensioner his/her pension. And have never heard of anyone doing so. Probably because you assume you will one day be in their shoes and collecting your pension. Presumably as the baby boomers die off demographics will dictate that less money is required to service the pension requirements. Maybe. | | | |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 22:31 - Nov 26 with 607 views | lowhouseblue |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 14:58 - Nov 26 by Deano69 |
Not sure what the objective was in its introduction, but certainly cannot see anything to evidence it has helped individuals that work, individuals that have retired, businesses, inflation, public services etc etc.
It has crucified hospitality, leisure, fixed income households, pensioners, small businesses, businesses reliant on fixed government contracts. I can see it making it difficult for school leavers to find work as they will have out-priced themselves due to a lack of experience and capability (so you may as well employ someone older but able to do the job from day one)
Anyone seeing double the disposable income since hourly rates have doubled in 10 years? No thought not.
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the minimum wage has been a huge policy success. but people forget that the redistributive implications are quite mixed. it obviously raises the real wages of those who are lowest paid - which in welfare terms and fiscal terms is great. but it reduces the real wages of those in the middle of the wage distribution - they are, as a proportion of their income, the greatest consumers of the stuff low paid workers make and the services they provide. the prices of those things rise and the income of those in the middle of the distribution goes less far. the min wage has risen by a third in real terms over the past decade - that is one part of the reason that non-min wage workers are experiencing a cost of living crisis - lots of services and goods are correspondingly more expensive than they used to be. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 22:32 - Nov 26 with 610 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 22:26 - Nov 26 by mellowblue |
Hard to say, but I have never begrudged a pensioner his/her pension. And have never heard of anyone doing so. Probably because you assume you will one day be in their shoes and collecting your pension. Presumably as the baby boomers die off demographics will dictate that less money is required to service the pension requirements. Maybe. |
"I have never begrudged a pensioner his/her pension"
Quite. And for all the things my tax contributions are spent on I have never once felt that I am paying too much for pensions.
But perhaps as others have implied you and I are in the minority. | |
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| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 23:13 - Nov 26 with 541 views | mellowblue |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 22:32 - Nov 26 by You_Bloo_Right |
"I have never begrudged a pensioner his/her pension"
Quite. And for all the things my tax contributions are spent on I have never once felt that I am paying too much for pensions.
But perhaps as others have implied you and I are in the minority. |
Sad if we are.
As Churchill said, "We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give". | | | |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 07:16 - Nov 27 with 429 views | Juggsy |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 11:12 - Nov 26 by Guthrum |
Thing is, somebody needs to pay for keeping the country running Nobody wants to (and, since the 1980s, we've been told we shouldn't have to). We're in a situation where inflation (or "growth" as they used to call it) - particularly in wages - has made everything considerably more expensive. We are simply in an environment where disposable income for everybody, people and businesses, is shrinking.
We'll all have to front up pay more, or stop complaining as services are further eroded and collapse from lack of resources*. That is the choice politicians are afraid to put to the electorate, out of concern that, indoctrinated by individualism over society, they'll chose the latter option.
* See: "No such thing as a free lunch". |
The god knows how many millions needlessly on benefit beg to differ, free lunch is a lifestyle choice for far too many. If they were sorting out the system and getting it down to those in need and getting the feckless into the work system and contributing then tax rises would be easier to swallow.
Far too many things need fixing in this country, the answer cannot just be constant tax rises. |  | | |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 07:37 - Nov 27 with 404 views | Vaughan8 |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 19:45 - Nov 26 by redrickstuhaart |
Ive said it before and will say it again.
If a business is paying wages at a level which are too low for someone realistically to live on, such that people are having to claim benefits as well- then the business is underpaying people and effectively getting a huge subsidy from the government.
My tax payments are going to pay benefits for people who are in work but paid too poorly to make ends meet. My tax payments are effectively ending up as profit for those businesses.
Unacceptable. The minimum wage needs to keep increasing until it is a living wage and companies profits trimmed accordingly where appropriate. |
I don't think it's as straight forward as that?
You keep increasing the minimum wage, business will just get rid of employees so it'll just end up with more unemployment, therefore more benefits paid out? Worse case they pack it in and all employees go.
They've dropped the employers NI threshold, increased employers NI rate and increased minimum wage at the last budget.
Best case for employees is the companies just put their prices up, which we all end up paying and therefore it's just like another tax on everybody. | | | |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 11:09 - Nov 27 with 346 views | Leaky |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 15:27 - Nov 26 by Kievthegreat |
We keep increasing minimum wage to deal with the fact that cost of living is getting worse. However we don't seem to be tackling the cost of living. This won't bring down the cost of housing, utility bills, etc... Those key cost rises are born out of structural problems that we keep ignoring.
The solution for "housing costs are too much because of lack of supply" is not, "give people more money to pay the costs". The undersupply still exists and so the prices will just keep going up. The solution is build more bloody houses! |
Why would builders build more houses then see prices fall |  | | |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 12:55 - Nov 27 with 305 views | NthQldITFC |
| Going to be another big kick for small businesses today on 18:05 - Nov 26 by Guthrum |
That's really our own fault for using house prices as a main generator of wealth for the country. Also allowing buy-to-let get out of hand, particularly in university cities and towns, where burgeoning student numbers (to get fees in and keep the youth off the jobs market for a few extra years) have led to rental/buying deserts for working people.
The biggest problem with employment is that we have a population size based upon manually-operated heavy industry and mining in an era of increasing automation*. Perhaps we ought to have a Chinese-style scheme to get the birthrate down? Or go all-in on maximising the technologial approach and have a universal basic income?
* Which affects productivity in that there are fewer profit-generating jobs for the number of workers. |
The buy-to-let parasitical model and all the leaching wnk-off TV programmes about it symbolise everything that's wrong with the rotting, moribund Thatcherite attitude of this country, and sadly the large number of anti-society pigs that go along with it. |  |
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