| Relying on recruitment again 21:12 - Nov 29 with 699 views | ringwoodblue |
The Jan transfer window is already being mentioned as the thing that will make the difference and help us secure a top two or playoff place.
However, our summer recruitment hasn’t exactly worked out as hoped and the “need time to gel” excuse was trotted out so why would the Jan recruits be any different?
I think more disruption to the squad is the last thing we need, we have enough quality already but McK needs to coach, get them playing together and realise their potential. After all that’s what he’s being paid to do.
Having said all that, I agree that we do desperately need another striker but that’s the only addition I would make in Jan. |  |
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| Relying on recruitment again on 21:50 - Nov 29 with 603 views | bournemouthblue |
Have we ever not recruited aggressively in January and not tried to traded up under gamechanger?
I would say some of the fat in the squad needs to be trimmed, we surely will recruit again and have money to spend
We are well overdue trying to secure a quality striker, preferably with either serious heading dominance or high pace
Burns may cover the right but we desperately need him at full pace, he would add that outlet
Will we look for another central midfielder to cover Matusiwa or perhaps another box to box midfielder who can carry the ball forward? [Post edited 30 Nov 0:06]
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| Relying on recruitment again on 22:28 - Nov 29 with 559 views | Steve_M |
There’s a structural imbalance in a squad that has four right backs and one defensive midfielder, o clear solution to be a number 10 and is still a striker light. That’s what needs to be resolved. |  |
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| Relying on recruitment again on 22:34 - Nov 29 with 541 views | J2BLUE |
| Relying on recruitment again on 22:28 - Nov 29 by Steve_M |
There’s a structural imbalance in a squad that has four right backs and one defensive midfielder, o clear solution to be a number 10 and is still a striker light. That’s what needs to be resolved. |
Exactly. No one is suggesting we replace half the team. |  |
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| Relying on recruitment again on 22:43 - Nov 29 with 518 views | Nutkins_Return |
I've no idea why people take so much pleasure in trotting out the line "time to gel excuse" as if people were mad to suggest a new team will take time. Nothing has changed in that front. It is a thing. You'd be pretty forgetful not to remember Morsy and that that new team taking time.
Teams grow over a year or two. Look at Coventry. It's almost the same exact team!
You arent winning a point every time we draw or lose to act clever by saying it.
This whole post went in so many directions . Essentially saying time to gel is nonsense. Then saying we should buy and we should coach them (so time to gel). Then saying but we should buy. [Post edited 29 Nov 22:44]
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| Relying on recruitment again on 22:51 - Nov 29 with 477 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Relying on recruitment again on 22:28 - Nov 29 by Steve_M |
There’s a structural imbalance in a squad that has four right backs and one defensive midfielder, o clear solution to be a number 10 and is still a striker light. That’s what needs to be resolved. |
This I believe we could have lucked up an out of favour Ellis Simms in the summer. Much harder to get a striker In January
I said we should have gone for Lewis Travis or similar purest fur back up. We could have got a squad option in to give Matusiwa some cover. [Post edited 29 Nov 22:53]
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| Relying on recruitment again on 23:00 - Nov 29 with 441 views | itfcsuth |
Don’t trust us in the market with big deals, we don’t spend well, we don’t spend wisely, we waste. Wouldn’t trust Ashton and co with another penny in the transfer market.
The window is a fairly straightforward one really.
- Chaplin recalled
- Any of the following out; Johnson, Azon, Philogene, J.Clarke, K.McAteer
Need to build towards Town 2.5:
Walton
Furlong - O’Shea - Kipre - Davis
Matusiwa - Taylor
Burns - Chaplin - Szmodics
Hirst
Palmer, H.Clarke, A.Young, Greaves, Cajuste, Nunez, Egeli, Akpom |  | | |
| Relying on recruitment again on 23:04 - Nov 29 with 419 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Relying on recruitment again on 22:43 - Nov 29 by Nutkins_Return |
I've no idea why people take so much pleasure in trotting out the line "time to gel excuse" as if people were mad to suggest a new team will take time. Nothing has changed in that front. It is a thing. You'd be pretty forgetful not to remember Morsy and that that new team taking time.
Teams grow over a year or two. Look at Coventry. It's almost the same exact team!
You arent winning a point every time we draw or lose to act clever by saying it.
This whole post went in so many directions . Essentially saying time to gel is nonsense. Then saying we should buy and we should coach them (so time to gel). Then saying but we should buy. [Post edited 29 Nov 22:44]
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Coventry don't have PL money.
Other teams even a level up have seemingly managed to gel quite quickly in terms of results. |  |
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| Relying on recruitment again on 23:45 - Nov 29 with 345 views | quirkie |
Our last few windows haven't been that good really, I don't think we have the people in place scouting wise to identify real potential targets that would make a drastic impact to our team.
This is something we need to improve and quickly and I hope the club are in the process of doing that. The likes of Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham have this part of their clubs spot on. Until we get to that sort of level behind the scenes we are going to struggle to achieve the ambitions that the owners want.
I live in hope this will be identified and corrected. |  |
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| Relying on recruitment again on 00:08 - Nov 30 with 296 views | bournemouthblue |
| Relying on recruitment again on 23:04 - Nov 29 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Coventry don't have PL money.
Other teams even a level up have seemingly managed to gel quite quickly in terms of results. |
maybe not but they have had a reasonable squad which has underperformed in recent seasons
I'd suggest they have three strikers options, all good quality
Simms, Wright and Thomas-Assante, all very good at this level? | |
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| Relying on recruitment again on 00:11 - Nov 30 with 281 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Relying on recruitment again on 00:08 - Nov 30 by bournemouthblue |
maybe not but they have had a reasonable squad which has underperformed in recent seasons
I'd suggest they have three strikers options, all good quality
Simms, Wright and Thomas-Assante, all very good at this level? |
Yes, I’d rather then then our current crop tbh, which I think is the wider point about what we have and have not addressed in recent windows. | |
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| Relying on recruitment again on 06:38 - Nov 30 with 96 views | BlueOura |
| Relying on recruitment again on 23:00 - Nov 29 by itfcsuth |
Don’t trust us in the market with big deals, we don’t spend well, we don’t spend wisely, we waste. Wouldn’t trust Ashton and co with another penny in the transfer market.
The window is a fairly straightforward one really.
- Chaplin recalled
- Any of the following out; Johnson, Azon, Philogene, J.Clarke, K.McAteer
Need to build towards Town 2.5:
Walton
Furlong - O’Shea - Kipre - Davis
Matusiwa - Taylor
Burns - Chaplin - Szmodics
Hirst
Palmer, H.Clarke, A.Young, Greaves, Cajuste, Nunez, Egeli, Akpom |
Yes lets get rid of two of our main goal threats and replace them with Chaplin, who has of course been tearing it up at Portsmouth, and Burns who hasn't played for year.
Awful take. |  | | |
| Relying on recruitment again on 06:49 - Nov 30 with 83 views | Len_Brennan |
| Relying on recruitment again on 00:08 - Nov 30 by bournemouthblue |
maybe not but they have had a reasonable squad which has underperformed in recent seasons
I'd suggest they have three strikers options, all good quality
Simms, Wright and Thomas-Assante, all very good at this level? |
I'm not even sure that Simms, Wright & Thomas-Assante are a better 3 up front than Hirst, Azon & Akpom, in terms of pure ability & potential, it's just that they are currently more in form, in a side that is well balanced & constantly creating lots of chances for them.
Before the start of this season, having seen Simms in action for them, I don't think too many of us would have wanted to trade Hirst for him, while Akpom would certainly have been seen as a step up from Thomas-Assante. Personally, I've always liked the look of Wright, but again, he was a player that seemed to have 'gone off the boil' somewhat for them last season, so the prospect of Azon - a £10m player we specifically targeted to play in our system - seemed like a better call too.
They are flying at the moment, while we are largely ineffective against teams that are setting up to frustrate us, despite the depth of talent at our disposal.
The problem may be overcome by another window of heavy recruitment far beyond the capabilities of non-parachute teams, but the reality is, it shouldn't have to be. What is needed moreso, in my opinion, is a clear alternative way of playing when we are struggling to break stubborn sides down. The tactic of changing the entire front 4 (and the more offensive midfielder) post the 65th minute is known, expected & prepared for by every 2-bit journeyman league manager now; if we don't score early & draw a team out, we are destined for many more turgid hours of ineffective possession football across the back & midfield, with limited clear scoring chances created, regardless of who our centre forward is.
If we take out a number of Philogene wonder goals from distance, & a couple more from Clarke, we would be in the bottom half at this stage, with no real sign of improvement in how to cut through sides playing with the low block. We need to have alternative patterns of play, sharp touches & movement from our exceptional squad of players, that provides real scoring chances for the forwards, rather than us waiting for Philogene, Clarke or Walle-Eegli to once again cut in from the side & look to launch yet other curling strike around the covering defender, in a crowded box & hope their quality gets us out of trouble again. | | | |
| Relying on recruitment again on 07:01 - Nov 30 with 69 views | Blue_Heath |
The trouble is what saleable assets do we have that we are happy to lose and how much would we get say for a Smzodics or a Greaves (just examples) in comparison to what we paid.
Further striking options just leads to more rotation unless they start scoring or assisting immediately.
Also, who is out there in January? We way overspent last two seasons on wrong players why would our recruitment suddenly unearth a gem now?
That said we do a decent striker and also a no 10. | |
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| Relying on recruitment again on 07:15 - Nov 30 with 41 views | Devereuxxx |
The phrase 'relying on recruitment' is an interesting one - probably best served through a quick mention of our recent right backs. We currently have 4 right backs in the squad, which in itself is emblematic that our strategy there hasn't really worked last couple of years. Tuanzebe was a positive who we clearly would have liked to keep, but aside from him, it's been pretty scattergun. H Clarke doesn't look like he's trusted (and can't stay fit) and Ashley Young appears to be a rotation option as most, with his off the field influence probably more important.
Then we have Ben Johnson. I just can't get my head round how someone we signed to presumably be pushing for first choice in the PL is now struggling to get into the squad in the Championship. Is he just not up to the standard required? Were we just slightly desperate to get someone with PL experience in for free? The very fact we signed and immediately started Furlong suggests Johnson isn't trusted either. And presumably he's on large wages.
The crux of my point here is we keep on having to sign because we don't trust who we signed previously, and at some point that catches up with you. I expect us to be active in January, but i'm mindful that just signing more players hasn't really worked for us as a strategy recently. |  | | |
| Relying on recruitment again on 07:21 - Nov 30 with 21 views | ArnieM |
Unfortunately im now at the point where im not even excited about who we might bring in because McKenna will only try and covert ( likely striker target) to playing the #10 role, just as hes done with a fair few other Town players. What's the bloody point, he wont change his one tactic approach! |  |
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