| Think it bears repeating to say 21:14 - Dec 13 with 2874 views | BouncebackIpswich |
Our recruitment and player trading has been absolutely dogsh1t, not just this summer but last too. It gets mentioned on here but I don't think enough, there really needs to be some accountability for how shambolic it's been.
ITFC suddenly found themselves with money and seemingly not a clue how to spend it effectively. Despite big talk about strategy and ambition it's been absolute kid in a sweet shop stuff. Whether that's due to a lack of infrastructure, scouting network, I don't know and maybe the club was shown up for having grown in a short space of time.
Kieran is doing the best he can with this bunch and I don't think he can actually get much more out of them. Some are just not that good, or if they are, they were signed without thinking how they'd fit into the team. He doesn't get a free pass either as he should have had some better idea of how to fit signings he presumably gave the green light to into his team. Szmodics, Akpom, Cajuste, Young.... What was the plan behind these signings?
It's really depressing as it feels like an extremely promising position for the club is being frittered away due to gross negligent incompetence in this area.
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:18 - Dec 13 with 567 views | Bigalhunter |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 22:06 - Dec 13 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
He seems to be front and center without knowing the exact recruitment process and inner workings of it.
I’m sure KM signs off on them but it does seem there have been some odd moves since promotion.
I feel like this summer were on a better path but maybe missed out on some of our number 1 targets and panicked with a few, but yes it’s speculation, we can only go on the results and eye test.
A few good deals this year for sure but I was frustrated seeing James out there for a club in financial disarray against Taylor and Cajuste on the bench. Kind of sums up how things have shaken out for us in certain positions. |
My issue is, a great coach improves the players that are bought in.
KM managed that for the two promotion seasons, but in the last 18 months that ability has dropped off a cliff.
Last season we were told by the board illuminati that KM was just the man to revive Kalvin Phillips, improve the potential of raw but promising Championship talent such as Greaves, Sczmodics, O’Shea, Jack Clarke, and Jayden Philogene and utilise the gem that was Jens Cajuste.
None of that happened because we went up too soon..
Fair enough.
This season we were going to reignite Chuba Akpom’s potential, utilise the invaluable experience of Ashley Young alongside a couple of smart, young recruitments from abroad to prove we don’t just just overpay for UK based talent and link them up with the list above, Championship cheat codes who would carve it up at this level.
Chuck in Mcateer, steal a Norwich player for hysterical excitement, kick out Muric and the jobs a good ‘un…
Here we are in December and the best player out of that list is the keeper we were glad to see the back of.
Replaced by another panic buy from WBA who looked petrified every time the ball landed at his feet.
Now we’re back to the keeper who wasn’t good enough to play out from the back two years ago.
Leif Davis has had his greatest asset coached out of him and is now just a defensive calamity waiting to happen.
The rest of them can’t manage more than 180 minutes of consistency before their performance levels drop off a cliff…
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:30 - Dec 13 with 542 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:05 - Dec 13 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
It is baffling to me that we seem to get it so wrong.
We have no cover for Azor. We dont even have a competent partner for Azor. We seemingly don't have a capable backup to a 19 year old winger who still has loads to learn in English football. We don't have a backup left back for Leif, unless you count a 40 year old who we see as a right back, but we have about 4 of them already. Our striker room, looks to be well well short. Our starting number 10 is a player we didn't sign to play number 10.
What a mess. |
What baffles me more is we purchased basically what on paper would be a top champ side. However even if we got promoted. Hardly any of this squad would be good enough for the prem and half of the squad dont actually compliment the players they are playing with.
Since we got prem money
Weve bought philogene and clarke to the club. Both best occupying the left side meaning we reduce the benefits of basically our star player under KM.
Jayden theres a bit of development there but clarke.. time to cut our losses I think personally.
Weve brought in Sammy S and Akpom . Neither suite our 10 role which is more of an AM 10 than a shadow striker 10 imo
Weve brought in a midfielder who can give you 20 minutes of his best per appearence in cajuste
Weve spent 12 mill on a winger. Loaned out a winger who plays instead of the one we brought for his country and already we are seeing other players picked instead of him.
We have 4 right backs. 1 left back
Weve spent sht loads of cash yet find ourselves with the non prolific Hirst being our main striker. The other has absolute terrible composure in front of goal
We brought in nunez yet hes probably best suited in a 3 midfield.
We have two number 2 goal keepers fighting for number 1 slot
We spent 15 mill on greaves whos now seemingly out of favour already
Appreciate j2 higher up says you can't blame just ashton. But yes you can. He made himself ceo and chairman. He sets up the recruitment team. He delegates and oversees the direction of the signings.
Both ashton and KM spoke or physicality being needed in signings.. was that judt words as I dont see it with what we signed. |  |
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:31 - Dec 13 with 548 views | bournemouthblue |
The player trading financially has been a success, obviously it's not an exact science
Matusiwa has been our most important signing
Kipre has been good
Furlong solid, a reasonable swap for Axel
Azon middling
Young middling
Akpom very disappointing
McAteer a puzzler, was it a panic signing? |  |
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:40 - Dec 13 with 519 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:30 - Dec 13 by FrimleyBlue |
What baffles me more is we purchased basically what on paper would be a top champ side. However even if we got promoted. Hardly any of this squad would be good enough for the prem and half of the squad dont actually compliment the players they are playing with.
Since we got prem money
Weve bought philogene and clarke to the club. Both best occupying the left side meaning we reduce the benefits of basically our star player under KM.
Jayden theres a bit of development there but clarke.. time to cut our losses I think personally.
Weve brought in Sammy S and Akpom . Neither suite our 10 role which is more of an AM 10 than a shadow striker 10 imo
Weve brought in a midfielder who can give you 20 minutes of his best per appearence in cajuste
Weve spent 12 mill on a winger. Loaned out a winger who plays instead of the one we brought for his country and already we are seeing other players picked instead of him.
We have 4 right backs. 1 left back
Weve spent sht loads of cash yet find ourselves with the non prolific Hirst being our main striker. The other has absolute terrible composure in front of goal
We brought in nunez yet hes probably best suited in a 3 midfield.
We have two number 2 goal keepers fighting for number 1 slot
We spent 15 mill on greaves whos now seemingly out of favour already
Appreciate j2 higher up says you can't blame just ashton. But yes you can. He made himself ceo and chairman. He sets up the recruitment team. He delegates and oversees the direction of the signings.
Both ashton and KM spoke or physicality being needed in signings.. was that judt words as I dont see it with what we signed. |
Therein lies the problem. You can recruit as many "good" players as you want, but it means nothing if they don't fit the system.
We seemingly haven't profiled anyone we have signed and if we have we have got it wrong.
Someone has to get a grip of this recruitment. That is 2 poor summers in a row. |  |
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:48 - Dec 13 with 502 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 22:04 - Dec 13 by Bigalhunter |
Quite how it’s taken 18 months to work out Cajuste is never fit and incapable of anything beyond the occasional lascivious 20 minute flutter of eyelashes, is utterly beyond me.
If he’s one of the ‘cheat codes’ at this level that many of the more vocal cheerleaders were trumpeting last summer, someone forgot to give KM the crib sheet to decipher it. |
Spot on. I said the same thing last season that Jens simply flatters to deceive and actually offers very little but was inevitable called a clueless tw4t amongst other things……again 😂
There have been so many excuses for our shortcomings over the last 18 months now from the club management it feels it’s changed the mindset.
Like that derby loss in the promotion season where McKenna downplayed it so much that the players forgot to turn up. |  | | |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:51 - Dec 13 with 498 views | Bassett_Blue |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:13 - Dec 13 by Illinoisblue |
Kipre and Furlong are big units but yes, generally agree we haven’t recruited in the way Ashton said we needed to . Now, to be fair, just because we have a wish list doesn’t mean we can just wave a bag of cash and make the deal happen.
Weather the reasons, and all that money behind us, we have Taylor going from a bit-part sub to regular starter, very limited attacking options, and still no real pace in the team. |
Yeah that is a fair point on those two, but in midfield and upfront we are distinctly lacking. Just look at the front four today, no power/pace up there, and our wide players seem reluctant to take anyone on.
We desperately need an upgrade on Taylor, I've never been a fan, yes he has done alright since he has come in, but we need better than just alright. He just isn't good enough on the ball for me.
The McAteer signing, as others have said is just baffling, I know Ogbene wasn't fully fit, but was playing games for us and is much more in the mould of player, we were supposedly looking to sign. [Post edited 14 Dec 0:05]
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:51 - Dec 13 with 498 views | HighgateBlue |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 21:58 - Dec 13 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It’s true everyone was falling over themselves about that signing and him dropping down to the EFL. We are not the ones paid to get these calls right though. |
Not everyone was falling over themselves. Some of us pointed out that he was part of a midfield that was sliced through like a knife through butter the previous year, and that Morsy had more points per game that season, despite suddenly being judged as over the hill by plenty.
I must say, I thought for the Championship Cajuste was probably a decent enough signing, but I could never understand this Rolls Royce, cheat code nonsense. |  | | |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:58 - Dec 13 with 481 views | HighgateBlue |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:31 - Dec 13 by bournemouthblue |
The player trading financially has been a success, obviously it's not an exact science
Matusiwa has been our most important signing
Kipre has been good
Furlong solid, a reasonable swap for Axel
Azon middling
Young middling
Akpom very disappointing
McAteer a puzzler, was it a panic signing? |
Azon middling?
Muddling more like.
He seems like a very likeable guy, but it's barn door banjo territory, it really is. | | | |
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 00:20 - Dec 14 with 452 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:05 - Dec 13 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
It is baffling to me that we seem to get it so wrong.
We have no cover for Azor. We dont even have a competent partner for Azor. We seemingly don't have a capable backup to a 19 year old winger who still has loads to learn in English football. We don't have a backup left back for Leif, unless you count a 40 year old who we see as a right back, but we have about 4 of them already. Our striker room, looks to be well well short. Our starting number 10 is a player we didn't sign to play number 10.
What a mess. |
Absolutely this 100%. It's all a big, muddled, fly by the seat of your pants mess. | | | |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 02:00 - Dec 14 with 394 views | Illinoisblue |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 22:04 - Dec 13 by Bigalhunter |
Quite how it’s taken 18 months to work out Cajuste is never fit and incapable of anything beyond the occasional lascivious 20 minute flutter of eyelashes, is utterly beyond me.
If he’s one of the ‘cheat codes’ at this level that many of the more vocal cheerleaders were trumpeting last summer, someone forgot to give KM the crib sheet to decipher it. |
He’s a luxury we can afford financially but he’s clearly not built for the rigours of the championship. |  |
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 02:40 - Dec 14 with 385 views | bluelagos |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 21:28 - Dec 13 by BouncebackIpswich |
No, that's me but I'm more Ipswich than Leicester was rooting for Town today as I have done for the past 3 years when they play Leicester. I've really fallen out of love with LCFC since the fanbase became absolutely entitled and miserable post title and FA cup wins doesn't feel like the club I've been supporting most my life any more.
Anyway, can we get back on topic? |
Kin hell. |  |
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 03:01 - Dec 14 with 370 views | Illinoisblue |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 21:28 - Dec 13 by BouncebackIpswich |
No, that's me but I'm more Ipswich than Leicester was rooting for Town today as I have done for the past 3 years when they play Leicester. I've really fallen out of love with LCFC since the fanbase became absolutely entitled and miserable post title and FA cup wins doesn't feel like the club I've been supporting most my life any more.
Anyway, can we get back on topic? |
Are you for real? | |
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 07:43 - Dec 14 with 293 views | BlueOura |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 21:28 - Dec 13 by BouncebackIpswich |
No, that's me but I'm more Ipswich than Leicester was rooting for Town today as I have done for the past 3 years when they play Leicester. I've really fallen out of love with LCFC since the fanbase became absolutely entitled and miserable post title and FA cup wins doesn't feel like the club I've been supporting most my life any more.
Anyway, can we get back on topic? |
You can't just switch, it doesn't work like that. Everybody knows that your team is your team for life, it's the unwritten rule of football!
I can only assume you were never a true Leicester supporter in the first place if you have turned your back on them. |  | | |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 07:58 - Dec 14 with 268 views | jas0999 |
It’s all well and good saying Kieran is doing the best he can with this bunch …. But he’s heavily involved in the recruitment. It’s his players! There can be no excuse.
Back on topic: I still don’t understand the signings of McAteer or Young for that matter. Furlong is very limited. Jens looked like a good signing, everyone was delighted, but he’s found it tough. As for Azon - his goal scoring record was woeful prior to signing. It’s not looking much better now. | | | |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 08:04 - Dec 14 with 261 views | Stadiumofdark |
Doing loads of really good structured / strategic stuff off the pitch (Portman Road / Training Ground / Commercial stuff) to build a strong future.
So the chaos and apparent lack of plan in transfers and team balance is mind-blowing. Embarrassing even.
Its so frustrating to watch a collection of talented players look so bereft of confidence and belief.
I don't want Morsy back, but we look as weak on the pitch, as the weeks before we signed him.
£100m + spent recently, and having to watch Taylor / Young in CM is a disgrace if our ambitions are Top 2. |  | | |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 08:18 - Dec 14 with 233 views | BLUEGOLD |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 23:13 - Dec 13 by Illinoisblue |
Kipre and Furlong are big units but yes, generally agree we haven’t recruited in the way Ashton said we needed to . Now, to be fair, just because we have a wish list doesn’t mean we can just wave a bag of cash and make the deal happen.
Weather the reasons, and all that money behind us, we have Taylor going from a bit-part sub to regular starter, very limited attacking options, and still no real pace in the team. |
Burns and Ogbene are the pace and both have had ACL injuries. I understand why they have not been replaced like for like and Egeli is one of the decent signings to be used on that side.
Hopefully Wes is back in the New Year and can get back to where he was before the injury.
It’s really hard to understand some of the other signings though and the lack of a number 10 to play in our system, cover/competition for Azor and someone to play next to him is baffling.
Nunez works best in a 3 man midfield which we don’t play.
Let’s see who comes in & who leaves in January and also where we are after the next few matches which may well have a big bearing on that too. | | | |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 09:31 - Dec 14 with 180 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 21:28 - Dec 13 by BouncebackIpswich |
No, that's me but I'm more Ipswich than Leicester was rooting for Town today as I have done for the past 3 years when they play Leicester. I've really fallen out of love with LCFC since the fanbase became absolutely entitled and miserable post title and FA cup wins doesn't feel like the club I've been supporting most my life any more.
Anyway, can we get back on topic? |
"since the fanbase became absolutely entitled and miserable".
Seems ours is heading that way too. Maybe it's you? |  |
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 09:36 - Dec 14 with 171 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 09:31 - Dec 14 by The_Flashing_Smile |
"since the fanbase became absolutely entitled and miserable".
Seems ours is heading that way too. Maybe it's you? |
He will bounce back to Leicester sooner or later. |  |
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 09:42 - Dec 14 with 160 views | BlueNomad |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 21:59 - Dec 13 by Bassett_Blue |
We were supposed to be going after a different profile of player, more athletic, stronger and faster, and I just don't see that in our recruitment. Added to that we don't seem to have signed players that fit our system/style of play.
Getting rid of Morsy looks a worse decision week by week, as we don't have anyone to take the game by the scruff of the neck, both in leadership and getting the ball off the centre half and getting us up the pitch. [Post edited 13 Dec 22:13]
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We did NOT get rid of Morsy. He decided to go and as thanks for his service didn’t stand in his way. |  | | |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 09:43 - Dec 14 with 149 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 09:42 - Dec 14 by BlueNomad |
We did NOT get rid of Morsy. He decided to go and as thanks for his service didn’t stand in his way. |
Indeed. In fact McKenna was surprised and gutted to lose him. | |
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 09:51 - Dec 14 with 137 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 09:42 - Dec 14 by BlueNomad |
We did NOT get rid of Morsy. He decided to go and as thanks for his service didn’t stand in his way. |
hmmm i wouldn't be so sure.
you dont let a club captain leave for free under contract just because he asked lol. Morsy wanted to stay [Post edited 14 Dec 9:54]
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 09:54 - Dec 14 with 129 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 09:43 - Dec 14 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Indeed. In fact McKenna was surprised and gutted to lose him. |
That part is true | |
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 09:55 - Dec 14 with 129 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 09:51 - Dec 14 by FrimleyBlue |
hmmm i wouldn't be so sure.
you dont let a club captain leave for free under contract just because he asked lol. Morsy wanted to stay [Post edited 14 Dec 9:54]
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Well I've seen McKenna saying so, and looking gutted about it. What's your evidence? | |
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 10:13 - Dec 14 with 111 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 09:55 - Dec 14 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Well I've seen McKenna saying so, and looking gutted about it. What's your evidence? |
Like i said, i don't disagree that KM himself wasnt gutted. | |
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| Think it bears repeating to say on 10:16 - Dec 14 with 106 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Think it bears repeating to say on 10:13 - Dec 14 by FrimleyBlue |
Like i said, i don't disagree that KM himself wasnt gutted. |
That's not evidence Morsy wanted to stay. Show your workings! | |
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