| Cajuste yesterday 09:21 - Jan 2 with 1192 views | TresBonne |
Not seen much discourse around how good Jens was yesterday. He was my MOTM personally, particularly in the first half, there were times he looked like he was playing in a dads v kids game.
Thought most of our attacks went through him and great work to win the ball back for Jaden’s goal. |  | | |  |
| Cajuste yesterday on 09:28 - Jan 2 with 1127 views | grow_our_own |
Agreed, was unplayably good at times. Ate up the ground bringing the ball forwards. Only blot on his copy book is the one 180 degree swivel that didn't come off which led to the Oxford goal. Think this is the price you pay for being more attacking at home. Cajuste will create chances but also risk conceding them. TBF, every Oxford touch from the moment he lost it was perfect. If you're going to risk losing it, wide on the half-way line with plenty still to do is probably a bet he was willing to take. Most of the time, it's not fatal like yesterday. |  | | |
| Cajuste yesterday on 10:25 - Jan 2 with 944 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Cajuste yesterday on 09:28 - Jan 2 by grow_our_own |
Agreed, was unplayably good at times. Ate up the ground bringing the ball forwards. Only blot on his copy book is the one 180 degree swivel that didn't come off which led to the Oxford goal. Think this is the price you pay for being more attacking at home. Cajuste will create chances but also risk conceding them. TBF, every Oxford touch from the moment he lost it was perfect. If you're going to risk losing it, wide on the half-way line with plenty still to do is probably a bet he was willing to take. Most of the time, it's not fatal like yesterday. |
Its a small thing, but my observation on the goal they scored is that Cajuste and Davis were played into a difficult position - Jens may not have made a brilliant decision, but if the ball out to Leif from Kipre had been a bit more positive, had a bit more pace on it, he would have more time to do what he was trying to do rather than than ending up with man and ball simultaneously.
Kipre had one of his less stellar games in terms of distribution - he is very deliberate with his passing when he has time (as he did yesterday), but there were still a couple of times the ball didnt find its intended recipient (particularly to Davis) and a couple of times he was so careful with the direction that the pace was just too slow.
Great player for us - still should be kept as the core of the team - just something to improve I guess. | | | |
| Cajuste yesterday on 10:32 - Jan 2 with 876 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
No one has ever doubted his quality. It is about getting better consistency and having the effective moments far more often than those less successful ones. He appears to be shifting that balance in the right direction which is great to see. He could be a Premier League level talent if he really gets going. |  |
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| Cajuste yesterday on 10:42 - Jan 2 with 786 views | Simonds92 |
He was very very good for about half an hour, which is much better than his usual 5 minutes per half. He then made a big mistake which we conceded from and he went on to be non-existent until he was substituted. Taylor was poor when he came on too. [Post edited 2 Jan 10:44]
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| Cajuste yesterday on 10:57 - Jan 2 with 696 views | Garv |
| Cajuste yesterday on 10:25 - Jan 2 by Exiled2Surrey |
Its a small thing, but my observation on the goal they scored is that Cajuste and Davis were played into a difficult position - Jens may not have made a brilliant decision, but if the ball out to Leif from Kipre had been a bit more positive, had a bit more pace on it, he would have more time to do what he was trying to do rather than than ending up with man and ball simultaneously.
Kipre had one of his less stellar games in terms of distribution - he is very deliberate with his passing when he has time (as he did yesterday), but there were still a couple of times the ball didnt find its intended recipient (particularly to Davis) and a couple of times he was so careful with the direction that the pace was just too slow.
Great player for us - still should be kept as the core of the team - just something to improve I guess. |
Interesting view. My take was that Kipre played a handful of good passes out to Leif first half but he either didn't run onto them or mis-read the flight of the ball, or both. The passes themselves were pretty accurate.
Their goal came from a lack of positivity in my opinion, which was a theme. Oxford set up well and we couldn't pass through them easily, but we were just a bit safe at times and refused to play a 'risky' forward pass. This led to Cajuste getting stuck in a corner and then having to try and dribble his way out. It didn't come off they scored. Nice goal to be fair. |  |
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| Cajuste yesterday on 10:59 - Jan 2 with 671 views | ghostofescobar |
He was very good first half. Closer to the excellent player he was at times last season. When we play through him, we are a better attacking team. He was a bit anonymous second half, but then quite a few of our team were. If we can get 60 to 70 minutes of that first half version of Jens on a consistent basis, that will go a long way to us winning this league. |  |
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| Cajuste yesterday on 11:01 - Jan 2 with 652 views | Herbivore |
| Cajuste yesterday on 10:42 - Jan 2 by Simonds92 |
He was very very good for about half an hour, which is much better than his usual 5 minutes per half. He then made a big mistake which we conceded from and he went on to be non-existent until he was substituted. Taylor was poor when he came on too. [Post edited 2 Jan 10:44]
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| Cajuste yesterday on 11:14 - Jan 2 with 555 views | _CliveBaker_ |
He's quite clearly got so much ability, he's as strong as an Ox on the ball, his upper body strength is really impressive and must be so hard to play against. He's effective at 'breaking the line' in possession, seems to glide past players at ease at times. His obvious ability is probably what makes him a frustrating watch at times, he's capable of being a monster at this level but there are times watching him where you just wish he had a bit more dog in him. He's got a languid style about him, its not a bad thing in possession, off the ball he needs more bite and defensive discipline, I think that's been Taylor's USP and what's contributed to him playing so much ahead of Jens. |  | | |
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| Cajuste yesterday on 11:34 - Jan 2 with 431 views | Libero |
| Cajuste yesterday on 11:14 - Jan 2 by _CliveBaker_ |
He's quite clearly got so much ability, he's as strong as an Ox on the ball, his upper body strength is really impressive and must be so hard to play against. He's effective at 'breaking the line' in possession, seems to glide past players at ease at times. His obvious ability is probably what makes him a frustrating watch at times, he's capable of being a monster at this level but there are times watching him where you just wish he had a bit more dog in him. He's got a languid style about him, its not a bad thing in possession, off the ball he needs more bite and defensive discipline, I think that's been Taylor's USP and what's contributed to him playing so much ahead of Jens. |
There are valid criticisms of Jens Cajuste but every time I hear them, I can't help but think that if he did posses X or Y quality, he wouldn't be an Ipswich Town player- he'd be with a top six Premier League side or still playing for an elite European side. |  | | |
| Cajuste yesterday on 11:41 - Jan 2 with 395 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Cajuste yesterday on 11:34 - Jan 2 by Libero |
There are valid criticisms of Jens Cajuste but every time I hear them, I can't help but think that if he did posses X or Y quality, he wouldn't be an Ipswich Town player- he'd be with a top six Premier League side or still playing for an elite European side. |
Probably right, certainly wouldn't be playing at this level. I think the thing that makes it frustrating is it feels like something within his control a bit more vs a 'if only he was quicker'.
I think he's got a big role to play this season, for all the talk of needing reinforcements (which I think we do) we're lucky to have the options we do have. | | | |
| Cajuste yesterday on 11:43 - Jan 2 with 372 views | Libero |
| Cajuste yesterday on 11:41 - Jan 2 by _CliveBaker_ |
Probably right, certainly wouldn't be playing at this level. I think the thing that makes it frustrating is it feels like something within his control a bit more vs a 'if only he was quicker'.
I think he's got a big role to play this season, for all the talk of needing reinforcements (which I think we do) we're lucky to have the options we do have. |
Massive role, for me he's the leading man in that role of the more progressive/attacking of the two in the pivot - I know there's been a lot of praise for Taylor lately, but for me he's the first to go in that central spot and I do feel it needs renforcing.
I will say about Jens, I don't like that he has that Teddy Bishop-ism of regularly failing to complete a 90 minutes.
It happens too consistently for me to believe that it isn't necessary. [Post edited 2 Jan 11:47]
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| Cajuste yesterday on 11:46 - Jan 2 with 350 views | DJR |
You don't have 25 caps for Sweden without being a good player. And he is only 26.
Maybe it is just fitness that has done for him in the last couple of years.
And he certainly offers something from midfield that no other current player does. |  | | |
| Cajuste yesterday on 11:46 - Jan 2 with 347 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Cajuste yesterday on 11:43 - Jan 2 by Libero |
Massive role, for me he's the leading man in that role of the more progressive/attacking of the two in the pivot - I know there's been a lot of praise for Taylor lately, but for me he's the first to go in that central spot and I do feel it needs renforcing.
I will say about Jens, I don't like that he has that Teddy Bishop-ism of regularly failing to complete a 90 minutes.
It happens too consistently for me to believe that it isn't necessary. [Post edited 2 Jan 11:47]
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Teddy normally failed to start a 90 minutes.
He's back next month though. | | | |
| Cajuste yesterday on 11:51 - Jan 2 with 277 views | Steve_M |
| Cajuste yesterday on 11:41 - Jan 2 by _CliveBaker_ |
Probably right, certainly wouldn't be playing at this level. I think the thing that makes it frustrating is it feels like something within his control a bit more vs a 'if only he was quicker'.
I think he's got a big role to play this season, for all the talk of needing reinforcements (which I think we do) we're lucky to have the options we do have. |
He looks a lot fitter than he did six weeks ago, looked to me like the limited pre-season had caught up with him a bit and there were a few games when he didn't look mobile enough to play in a midfield two.
We're still a central midfielder light I think, even with Jens looking good and Taylor's good run. |  |
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| Cajuste yesterday on 11:54 - Jan 2 with 246 views | thebooks |
Yeah, he was good. I’m always impressed by how strong he is.
He’s disappeared a bit in some games this season — it was quite interesting hearing him post-match yesterday. I think he’s found the whole breaking down tough teams that put 10 players behind the ball a bit more a challenge than going toe to toe with better teams.
His English is superb, incidentally. Does he have an English-speaking parent? He’s a good listen anyway. |  | | |
| Cajuste yesterday on 11:55 - Jan 2 with 238 views | gsoly |
| Cajuste yesterday on 09:28 - Jan 2 by grow_our_own |
Agreed, was unplayably good at times. Ate up the ground bringing the ball forwards. Only blot on his copy book is the one 180 degree swivel that didn't come off which led to the Oxford goal. Think this is the price you pay for being more attacking at home. Cajuste will create chances but also risk conceding them. TBF, every Oxford touch from the moment he lost it was perfect. If you're going to risk losing it, wide on the half-way line with plenty still to do is probably a bet he was willing to take. Most of the time, it's not fatal like yesterday. |
I'm a big Jens fan, he has attributes almost nobody else in the division has, but I'm a little harsher on the goal yesterday than this. He's not got a forwards pass on, just recycle the ball to Kipre/O'Shea and play out the other side. Tries some daft move, loses it, goal. It's a pattern from him. I think (hope) it must drive McKenna mad. He's on the cusp of being incredible. |  | | |
| Cajuste yesterday on 11:56 - Jan 2 with 238 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Cajuste yesterday on 11:51 - Jan 2 by Steve_M |
He looks a lot fitter than he did six weeks ago, looked to me like the limited pre-season had caught up with him a bit and there were a few games when he didn't look mobile enough to play in a midfield two.
We're still a central midfielder light I think, even with Jens looking good and Taylor's good run. |
Yeah we are, I think 1 in and Humphreys going out is highly likely this month.
A Matusiwa suspension feels inevitable, that'll be 2 when it comes and possibly a further 3 down the line. We don't have anyone who can fill his shoes. | | | |
| Cajuste yesterday on 11:56 - Jan 2 with 228 views | LankHenners |
He's unfortunately found himself in a position where a lot of people only want to talk about him to slag him off so will just ignore the game he had yesterday.
In truth it was very easy for him and Matusiwa paired up against Oxford's midfield, which shouldn't be a surprise really given the difference in pedigree. He was very good though, and did a lot of the things the detractors claim he never does.
Still looks like he's playing with about 75% fitness but interesting to hear him admit post-match that it's taken him longer than he thought it would to get to grips with the division. Hopefully he's turned a bit of a corner and we can see more of what everyone knows he's capable of going forwards. |  |
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| Cajuste yesterday on 11:59 - Jan 2 with 192 views | CobboldCrusty |
| Cajuste yesterday on 10:42 - Jan 2 by Simonds92 |
He was very very good for about half an hour, which is much better than his usual 5 minutes per half. He then made a big mistake which we conceded from and he went on to be non-existent until he was substituted. Taylor was poor when he came on too. [Post edited 2 Jan 10:44]
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Whilst this might come across quite bah humbug, I do make you right
Cajuste lost the ball quite badly for the Oxford goal and got caught flat-footed
I'm not really sure Taylor is that capable of helping to assert control on the game when we have a tight lead like we did yesterday |  | | |
| Cajuste yesterday on 12:19 - Jan 2 with 100 views | Abracadobra |
| Cajuste yesterday on 10:42 - Jan 2 by Simonds92 |
He was very very good for about half an hour, which is much better than his usual 5 minutes per half. He then made a big mistake which we conceded from and he went on to be non-existent until he was substituted. Taylor was poor when he came on too. [Post edited 2 Jan 10:44]
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Spot on assessment for me. He hasn't been up to it all season for me, but the first period of the game he was good for sure as you mention. No idea why some are trying to defend Cajuste's part in their goal, it was his miscontrol and therefore his mistake.
What I haven't seen mentioned here is his sloppy passing, one moment in particular at the start of the second half where he has a relatively simple ball to Philogene to release him 1v1 and overhits it. How many times does he make the wrong decision/execution in the final third that undoes either his or someone else's good play prior. This is in stark contrast to a Nunez who has been outstanding at making good contributions in those big moments.
For me, his on the ball contribution doesn't make up for his lack of off the ball intensity, I think Taylor deserves the shirt who's certainly not outstanding at Championship level, but he's reliable off the ball and can add an occasional bit of quality on it. Cajuste's best use is breaking opposition lines by beating them on the turn, but even this isn't particularly reliable and has led to big opportunities for the opposition this season IMO |  | | |
| Cajuste yesterday on 12:23 - Jan 2 with 87 views | Libero |
| Cajuste yesterday on 12:19 - Jan 2 by Abracadobra |
Spot on assessment for me. He hasn't been up to it all season for me, but the first period of the game he was good for sure as you mention. No idea why some are trying to defend Cajuste's part in their goal, it was his miscontrol and therefore his mistake.
What I haven't seen mentioned here is his sloppy passing, one moment in particular at the start of the second half where he has a relatively simple ball to Philogene to release him 1v1 and overhits it. How many times does he make the wrong decision/execution in the final third that undoes either his or someone else's good play prior. This is in stark contrast to a Nunez who has been outstanding at making good contributions in those big moments.
For me, his on the ball contribution doesn't make up for his lack of off the ball intensity, I think Taylor deserves the shirt who's certainly not outstanding at Championship level, but he's reliable off the ball and can add an occasional bit of quality on it. Cajuste's best use is breaking opposition lines by beating them on the turn, but even this isn't particularly reliable and has led to big opportunities for the opposition this season IMO |
Just a point on your comment about Taylor being reliable-
when he came on yesterday he gave away the ball in a much more naive and worse position than Cajuste did, he just had the good fortune to not be punished for it by them scoring. | | | |
| Cajuste yesterday on 12:26 - Jan 2 with 58 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Cajuste yesterday on 10:57 - Jan 2 by Garv |
Interesting view. My take was that Kipre played a handful of good passes out to Leif first half but he either didn't run onto them or mis-read the flight of the ball, or both. The passes themselves were pretty accurate.
Their goal came from a lack of positivity in my opinion, which was a theme. Oxford set up well and we couldn't pass through them easily, but we were just a bit safe at times and refused to play a 'risky' forward pass. This led to Cajuste getting stuck in a corner and then having to try and dribble his way out. It didn't come off they scored. Nice goal to be fair. |
Might be six and two threes on those passes - my original thought was that Leif should have run, but it kept happening so I changed my view - maybe my view is not the best to judge. Having said that I think he was the one who put a ball over the top for Philiogene that JP only realised late on that he could have got to, which ended up going for a GK, so maybe it was difficult to pick the flight of the ball in the fading light - let’s say that…
I think you are spot on with the positivity - and it was not just the direction of pass but the speed of pass. I think that is something that Matusiwa has improved massively in recent weeks - it is rare that he leaves a pass short nowadays, but there have certainly been instances in the past that a lack of positivity in passing has led to trouble from him. | | | |
| Cajuste yesterday on 12:35 - Jan 2 with 7 views | Abracadobra |
| Cajuste yesterday on 12:23 - Jan 2 by Libero |
Just a point on your comment about Taylor being reliable-
when he came on yesterday he gave away the ball in a much more naive and worse position than Cajuste did, he just had the good fortune to not be punished for it by them scoring. |
I said he's reliable off the ball, you can never really fault his intensity/effort against the ball - which can't be said for Cajuste IMO. Of course, on the ball he has his faults as he's not particularly press resistant which was a big reason Luongo kept him out of the team when Taylor first arrived. Taylor's good on the ball when he's facing the right way and has space to play in to.
Either way, I think a new signing there could really elevate us to the next level so hopefully something happens there in the coming weeks. | | | |
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