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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. 13:54 - Jan 3 with 7676 viewsjasondozzell

I do not blame him.
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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:00 - Jan 3 with 4559 viewsIllinoisblue

Fratton Park’s a high energy stadium and an aggressive place for away teams to go. Today, it certainly wasn’t that in our stadium, so we’re going to have be ready to stand up there to the home crowd, to a team who play with a lot of energy, who run a lot, whose intensity is really good and we’re going to have to recover well.

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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:03 - Jan 3 with 4516 viewsblueprint

It was horribly flat. I’d like to think it may have been down to several hangovers being suffered but I don’t think that was the reason. I think it’s more likely down to nerves with us being on the cusp of the top 2 and the fact that we often get within striking distance only to blow our chance. Thankfully we won and Boro lost.

Sitting in the Churchmans lower I am used to be surrounded by people who will happily clap along to the dirge that is “Every Saturday we follow….” but will not actually exercise their vocal cords. It says a lot that the only ones making some noise at times are a bunch of 8 year old kids with their squeaky voices singing in unison I. The West stand lower.

I really wish some of our fans would just let themselves go a bit .
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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:12 - Jan 3 with 4367 views_CliveBaker_

It was dire, it has been at home all season.
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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:12 - Jan 3 with 4357 viewsSitfcB

The next league game at PR won’t be much better either, 12:30KOs usually very poor.

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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:13 - Jan 3 with 4350 views_CliveBaker_

KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:12 - Jan 3 by SitfcB

The next league game at PR won’t be much better either, 12:30KOs usually very poor.


Not like those raucous 3pm’s we’ve been enjoying
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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:14 - Jan 3 with 4336 viewsCafe_Newman

KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:03 - Jan 3 by blueprint

It was horribly flat. I’d like to think it may have been down to several hangovers being suffered but I don’t think that was the reason. I think it’s more likely down to nerves with us being on the cusp of the top 2 and the fact that we often get within striking distance only to blow our chance. Thankfully we won and Boro lost.

Sitting in the Churchmans lower I am used to be surrounded by people who will happily clap along to the dirge that is “Every Saturday we follow….” but will not actually exercise their vocal cords. It says a lot that the only ones making some noise at times are a bunch of 8 year old kids with their squeaky voices singing in unison I. The West stand lower.

I really wish some of our fans would just let themselves go a bit .


"on the cusp of the top 2 and the fact that we often get within striking distance only to blow our chance."

I get your point about fans being a bit nervy, but I don't recall us often getting within striking distance only to blow our chances.
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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:15 - Jan 3 with 4324 viewscbower

He has a fine line to tread IMHO. It's never a good look to be critical of your own support but the best way to respond is to produce on the pitch. You could argue that the first 30 on Friday was indeed good football but accepting some nice patterns of play and a continuance of the improved tempo we had seen at Coventry, we had 1 shot on target in that time (the goal). It is goalmouth action that forces the goalkeeper into genuine action that most enthuses supporters. We need to pull the trigger more often and that will rouse the crowd.
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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:15 - Jan 3 with 4299 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:03 - Jan 3 by blueprint

It was horribly flat. I’d like to think it may have been down to several hangovers being suffered but I don’t think that was the reason. I think it’s more likely down to nerves with us being on the cusp of the top 2 and the fact that we often get within striking distance only to blow our chance. Thankfully we won and Boro lost.

Sitting in the Churchmans lower I am used to be surrounded by people who will happily clap along to the dirge that is “Every Saturday we follow….” but will not actually exercise their vocal cords. It says a lot that the only ones making some noise at times are a bunch of 8 year old kids with their squeaky voices singing in unison I. The West stand lower.

I really wish some of our fans would just let themselves go a bit .


It’s been poor for a while but I genuinely couldn’t believe how quiet it was for Sheffield Wednesday at home when I was over. Of course all expected to win and it was not that impressive of a performance but it was still just awful.

It was incredible to think there were 29k people grouped together really. Outside of Wednesday could just hear some groaning and literally individual conversations. It’s a real shame how bad it is now. Think of Leeds, Sunderland etc as home environments and the advantage it gives. Aging fan base and a lot of families I know but surely got to better than it is. No one is going to be scared to come to PR and play in terms of the atmosphere unless something changes soon.

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Someone needs to tell him.... on 14:17 - Jan 3 with 4282 viewsBloots

....that everyone is singing non-stop and it's just bad acoustics.

I thought everyone knew that.

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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:29 - Jan 3 with 4101 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Were we this arrogant when we got into the Championship? by Cheltenham_Blue 2 Jan 19:22
I think that the general view, was that we 'could' make the playoffs, but I think most of us were hoping for 6th at best.

I think that's part of the issue with the poor atmosphere at Portman Road this season, very different set of expectations, and HMS P*ss the League has been in dry dock for repairs since August.


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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:32 - Jan 3 with 4057 viewsKieran_Knows

KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:12 - Jan 3 by _CliveBaker_

It was dire, it has been at home all season.


It has been fcuking atrocious in all honesty. Look, I can swear as much as the best of them, but some of the abuse certain players have copped this season (O’Shea seems to cop it amongst North Lower most weeks), has been nothing short of a disgrace, for things as small as a misplaced pass.
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Someone needs to tell him.... on 14:32 - Jan 3 with 4040 viewsScuzzer

Someone needs to tell him.... on 14:17 - Jan 3 by Bloots

....that everyone is singing non-stop and it's just bad acoustics.

I thought everyone knew that.


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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:33 - Jan 3 with 4008 viewsFrimleyBlue

KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:15 - Jan 3 by cbower

He has a fine line to tread IMHO. It's never a good look to be critical of your own support but the best way to respond is to produce on the pitch. You could argue that the first 30 on Friday was indeed good football but accepting some nice patterns of play and a continuance of the improved tempo we had seen at Coventry, we had 1 shot on target in that time (the goal). It is goalmouth action that forces the goalkeeper into genuine action that most enthuses supporters. We need to pull the trigger more often and that will rouse the crowd.
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Indeed

He spoke of the oxford low block and the slowness of the game. You cant then imo expect a massive atmosphere.

We're also a different animal this season

Ignoring the prem season weve spent alot of time under KM being a goal down and then winning the game.. that breeds atmosphere. Shots on target. Attack attack attack. Fast wing play etc. Think this season we're one of the worst for getting results when losing but also against that we arent conceding the first goal that often esp at home.

But also the teams coming to PR are sitting back. Every game at home looks like a training game. 70% possession us trying to break down a low block. But slowly. There's nothing happening on the pitch enough to bring on that atmosphere.

I shared a clip the other day.. Furlong assists akpom... as furlong passes.. barely anyone in the sir alf stand was standing..... that for me is an expectation of nothing coming from an attack... thats the issue imo. Weve come from trusting attacks lead to goals to oh wow it actually did work this time..

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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:36 - Jan 3 with 3966 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:33 - Jan 3 by FrimleyBlue

Indeed

He spoke of the oxford low block and the slowness of the game. You cant then imo expect a massive atmosphere.

We're also a different animal this season

Ignoring the prem season weve spent alot of time under KM being a goal down and then winning the game.. that breeds atmosphere. Shots on target. Attack attack attack. Fast wing play etc. Think this season we're one of the worst for getting results when losing but also against that we arent conceding the first goal that often esp at home.

But also the teams coming to PR are sitting back. Every game at home looks like a training game. 70% possession us trying to break down a low block. But slowly. There's nothing happening on the pitch enough to bring on that atmosphere.

I shared a clip the other day.. Furlong assists akpom... as furlong passes.. barely anyone in the sir alf stand was standing..... that for me is an expectation of nothing coming from an attack... thats the issue imo. Weve come from trusting attacks lead to goals to oh wow it actually did work this time..


He’s probably just hoping a few people can make noise at any game, it’d hardly like NYD atmosphere was a one off.

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Someone needs to tell him.... on 14:36 - Jan 3 with 3978 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Someone needs to tell him.... on 14:32 - Jan 3 by Scuzzer

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What score would you give the crowd today? D-? by Cheltenham_Blue 1 Jan 20:57
I've said it before, but I think a mistake was made by moving into Cobbold A from S6.
I can hardly hear Blue Action now, as I sit right next to the away fans, you'd have to assume that they can't hear the singing section either.

A few of us try to get stuff going in the SAR, but its a tough ask, and lately seems to be the non season ticket seats (in the lower anyway) are filled with families, who aren't there to join in.


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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:39 - Jan 3 with 3933 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Isn’t that football in general, easier to get the crowd going for a 97th min winner against a promotion rival and much more fancied team than a grind against Oxford.

Thought it was no better or worse than other home games this season. It’s notably more tense than our previous Championship season because if we concede first we aren’t winning. In tha season everyone believed we’d come back even if we went behind twice in a game. It’s tense this season, the expectation is high (rightly so), and memories of Derby and Charlton at home are still fresh in the mind.

Edit - FWIW we are much more secure at the back that earlier in the season which helps.
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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:41 - Jan 3 with 3894 viewsbaxterbasics

Can’t hear the clapping when everyone is wearing gloves.

Am sure that’s all it is. 🤔

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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:47 - Jan 3 with 3822 viewsDubtractor

KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:33 - Jan 3 by FrimleyBlue

Indeed

He spoke of the oxford low block and the slowness of the game. You cant then imo expect a massive atmosphere.

We're also a different animal this season

Ignoring the prem season weve spent alot of time under KM being a goal down and then winning the game.. that breeds atmosphere. Shots on target. Attack attack attack. Fast wing play etc. Think this season we're one of the worst for getting results when losing but also against that we arent conceding the first goal that often esp at home.

But also the teams coming to PR are sitting back. Every game at home looks like a training game. 70% possession us trying to break down a low block. But slowly. There's nothing happening on the pitch enough to bring on that atmosphere.

I shared a clip the other day.. Furlong assists akpom... as furlong passes.. barely anyone in the sir alf stand was standing..... that for me is an expectation of nothing coming from an attack... thats the issue imo. Weve come from trusting attacks lead to goals to oh wow it actually did work this time..


"But also the teams coming to PR are sitting back. Every game at home looks like a training game. 70% possession us trying to break down a low block. But slowly. There's nothing happening on the pitch enough to bring on that atmosphere."

That's nonsense, to be honest.

We've won 8, drawn 4, and lost just 1 game at home. Scored 24 goals (only Coventry have more, with 27). The stat about big chances created is shared repeatedly on here.

What do people want to see?

And FFS stop trying to explain the atmosphere away in a stadium that you're not in! You can't possibly appreciate how sterile the atmosphere is vs the football being provided when you're not there. JoeJoeJoeyJunior supports that with his comment above - you don't appreciate how bad it is until you are in the middle of it.

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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:52 - Jan 3 with 3775 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Did make me laugh though Oxford fans singing ‘your support is f***ing sh1t’ when only about 50 of them bothered to turn up for a NYD game…
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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:58 - Jan 3 with 3702 viewsIllinoisblue

Two general points to consider:

1. How many grounds are actually loud on a consistent basis? Leeds. Pompey. And….? Anyone else? The games I watch - EFL and prem - are usually quiet.

2. Fans being quiet is perhaps the end product of all-seater stadiums, fans being treated as consumers, fans being asked to donate to food banks, visit Rwanda, snitch on fans who are swearing, be searched going into the ground, be filmed by police, threatened by stewards. Etc. Maybe fans are too exhausted to sing.

Also, not so long ago, footy was few pints with your mates, enjoy the game and that was it. It was something but not everything. Now people tweet during the game, drone on about xG, every kick and shot analysed to death, every post match interview dissected and read into. It’s become too much.

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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 15:01 - Jan 3 with 3630 viewsFrimleyBlue

KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:47 - Jan 3 by Dubtractor

"But also the teams coming to PR are sitting back. Every game at home looks like a training game. 70% possession us trying to break down a low block. But slowly. There's nothing happening on the pitch enough to bring on that atmosphere."

That's nonsense, to be honest.

We've won 8, drawn 4, and lost just 1 game at home. Scored 24 goals (only Coventry have more, with 27). The stat about big chances created is shared repeatedly on here.

What do people want to see?

And FFS stop trying to explain the atmosphere away in a stadium that you're not in! You can't possibly appreciate how sterile the atmosphere is vs the football being provided when you're not there. JoeJoeJoeyJunior supports that with his comment above - you don't appreciate how bad it is until you are in the middle of it.


We've won 8, drawn 4, and lost just 1 game at home. Scored 24 goals (only Coventry have more, with 27). The stat about big chances created is shared repeatedly on here

Your last sentence kinda leads to my point about the furlong pass.. those sitting down instead of being on their feet when we are about to pass it across the box... expectation of a miss rather than an opportunity to score...

But also. Your stats look great and I appreciate them. Great results overall

Mixed in that
0-3 charlton
1-0 stoke
0-0 wrexham
2 2 derby
1 1 southampton
2 1 pompy

Only one loss in there so it's not a gripe on the actual result but some nervy home results for a side where that trust isn't built into it yet. Esp as we both mention that missing big chances created.

( obv well aware weve had some crackers too.. nodge. Cov. Sheff utd. )

Whats daft really is the stats you've mentioned. Excellent home results.. yet I certainly dont feel theres a togetherness as yet in full confidence of a town home win.



And also. I can share my view as I please. I saw various forms of football at PR with my ST and witnessed various forms of atmospheres. You dont need to attend now to share a view on football atmospheres its not rocket science and tbh its baffling KM brings it up. It'll will return

Think theres still alot of hurt from a large proportion of supporters on losing fan favourites hence the constant groans about oshea etc. Weve seen it on here alone how he is compared to wolfy everytime he steps foot on the pitch.

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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 15:01 - Jan 3 with 3621 viewsBenters

KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:52 - Jan 3 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Did make me laugh though Oxford fans singing ‘your support is f***ing sh1t’ when only about 50 of them bothered to turn up for a NYD game…


The ‘atmosphere’ was ok over in that corner then.

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Someone needs to tell him.... on 14:17 - Jan 3 by Bloots

....that everyone is singing non-stop and it's just bad acoustics.

I thought everyone knew that.


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KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 15:07 - Jan 3 with 3570 viewsDubtractor

KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 15:01 - Jan 3 by FrimleyBlue

We've won 8, drawn 4, and lost just 1 game at home. Scored 24 goals (only Coventry have more, with 27). The stat about big chances created is shared repeatedly on here

Your last sentence kinda leads to my point about the furlong pass.. those sitting down instead of being on their feet when we are about to pass it across the box... expectation of a miss rather than an opportunity to score...

But also. Your stats look great and I appreciate them. Great results overall

Mixed in that
0-3 charlton
1-0 stoke
0-0 wrexham
2 2 derby
1 1 southampton
2 1 pompy

Only one loss in there so it's not a gripe on the actual result but some nervy home results for a side where that trust isn't built into it yet. Esp as we both mention that missing big chances created.

( obv well aware weve had some crackers too.. nodge. Cov. Sheff utd. )

Whats daft really is the stats you've mentioned. Excellent home results.. yet I certainly dont feel theres a togetherness as yet in full confidence of a town home win.



And also. I can share my view as I please. I saw various forms of football at PR with my ST and witnessed various forms of atmospheres. You dont need to attend now to share a view on football atmospheres its not rocket science and tbh its baffling KM brings it up. It'll will return

Think theres still alot of hurt from a large proportion of supporters on losing fan favourites hence the constant groans about oshea etc. Weve seen it on here alone how he is compared to wolfy everytime he steps foot on the pitch.

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"Mixed in that
0-3 charlton
1-0 stoke
0-0 wrexham
2 2 derby
1 1 southampton
2 1 pompy

Only one loss in there so it's not a gripe on the actual result but some nervy home results for a side where that trust isn't built into it yet. Esp as we both mention that missing big chances created."

This is moon on a stick stuff though. You're listing a load of games with 1 (one) defeat in it, and ignoring all the other more impressive wins, to try and make a point. We're not going to smash teams every week at home, and if that is what more people are expecting, then its actually pretty depressing.

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What score would you give the crowd today? D-? by Cheltenham_Blue 1 Jan 20:57
I've said it before, but I think a mistake was made by moving into Cobbold A from S6.
I can hardly hear Blue Action now, as I sit right next to the away fans, you'd have to assume that they can't hear the singing section either.

A few of us try to get stuff going in the SAR, but its a tough ask, and lately seems to be the non season ticket seats (in the lower anyway) are filled with families, who aren't there to join in.



They should definitely be closer to the away fans.

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