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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 23:06 - Jan 13 by BanksterDebtSlave
Seems odd that you should bring this diversion into the thread at all then don't you think unless you genuinely think that those on the Left don't care.. How would you like me to express my support? With an uppie!
I think you’ll find that it was SKM who posted “ Not surprised that Jezza made his condemnation all about the US.” and I followed it up.
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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 23:02 - Jan 13 by GlasgowBlue
What do you mean “even you ‘d have to agree Trump’s interventions have been unhelpful”?
I already posted on this thread “ Trump's rhetoric isn't at all helpful”. Maybe read what’s posted before weighing in.
And you know exactly what I mean by “open letters in the Guardian”. The same thing that all the luvies signed trying to get Alaa Abd el-Fattah Released. The sort of thing that Gary Lineker would put his name to. They are conspicuous by their absence.
A young female student had her head blown off in the middle of a Tehran street over the weekend. Where are the likes of Charlotte Church and co with their ringing condemnation?
And it’s even being reflected in this thread. Progressives defending the honour of other progressives rather than outright condemnation of the Iranian state. 12000 people being murdered and the most upset some of you are getting is with me calling out progressives lack of condemnation. If it was so tragic it would be laughable.
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"even you" was saying you are a long way from being a typical corbynista!
not sure what mass marches would achieve, the uk govt don't sell arms to iran or see them as allies, so there's no government policy to change?
i think the anger is greater when the people who represent you, are (indirectly) supporting a regime who've killed 70,000 palestinians. surely you can see a difference there?
every right thinking human condemns the actions of the iranian government, but what policy change would marchers be advocating?
Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 23:12 - Jan 13 by positivity
"even you" was saying you are a long way from being a typical corbynista!
not sure what mass marches would achieve, the uk govt don't sell arms to iran or see them as allies, so there's no government policy to change?
i think the anger is greater when the people who represent you, are (indirectly) supporting a regime who've killed 70,000 palestinians. surely you can see a difference there?
every right thinking human condemns the actions of the iranian government, but what policy change would marchers be advocating?
It appears this Labour MP feels the same.
Coincidentally I was reading an old thread in which you were calling out banksy for the same inconsistency with regards to deaths of Muslims at the hands of regimes other than Israel.
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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 23:30 - Jan 13 by GlasgowBlue
It appears this Labour MP feels the same.
Coincidentally I was reading an old thread in which you were calling out banksy for the same inconsistency with regards to deaths of Muslims at the hands of regimes other than Israel.
i don't see how anyone could dispute that the world would be a better place without the despotic and murderous dictatorship in iran along with it's proxy terrorism throughout the middle east.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 00:04 - Jan 14 with 890 views
Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 17:56 - Jan 13 by SuperKieranMcKenna
Hopefully this could bring down the entire rotten Iranian regime. It could also be beneficial to the wider region (especially Lebanon and Yemen) as their proxies are cut off from funding and weapons.
Sadly in the case of Venezuela, it’s merely the figurehead, and the rest of the regime and Maduro allies remains in place.
What I want to know is where do all the supporters of the regimes go when they're toppled. They don't just suddenly change sides and become model citizens of the new state, and they're not all imprisoned or shot. A handful might realise the error of their ways, turn over a new leaf and keep their heads down, but the rest will simply melt into the background and await their chance to cause mayhem in future, or when the "peacekeepers" leave, sieze the chance to grab power again, like the Taliban did.
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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 00:59 - Jan 14 with 844 views
Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 22:26 - Jan 13 by BanksterDebtSlave
Never get to see the detail of these tweets but the Kurds don't mess about do they. The sad take from which is if you want to change regimes anywhere then you have to take up arms. Thank goodness all our leaders in the West are benevolent and care about us all deeply.
Such a shame for all their fighting against IS, the the Iranian government, Assad, that they still won't have their own state. A relatively secular, pro-western group that would be good for the region.
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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 18:25 - Jan 13 by GlasgowBlue
Trump's rhetoric isn't at all helpful as it gives the Mullahs an excuse to say that this isn't the Iranian people rising up but something organised by the USA. You can understand some people in a country where the internet has been cut off falling for that line but the progressive voices in this country should avoid bringing in their prejudices and support the brave Iranian people.
Where are the marches? The open letters to the Guardian? The pin badges?
They don't need an excuse, they'd be pedalling that regardless. It's one of the few times I wish the US would step in. What little has come out of Iran has had people pleading for the US to assist.
I wish Israel would get involved too. Israel's strikes on Hezbollah and Iran have been a key factor in instigating this uprising. For all the regime's puffing up that they can defend against Israel and the US, all the money they spent, trashing the economy in the process has been proven to be BS. Hence the chants "Not Gaza, not Lebanon, may my life be sacrificed for Iran". Essentially, screw the failed foreign policy diverting resources away from feeding the people of Iran.
I'd welcome strikes on Iranian military facilities and key government infrastructure.
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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 00:59 - Jan 14 by Kropotkin123
Such a shame for all their fighting against IS, the the Iranian government, Assad, that they still won't have their own state. A relatively secular, pro-western group that would be good for the region.
Very true… Saddam Hussein and Iraqi regime of that time too could be added to that list.
Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 00:04 - Jan 14 by vinceg
What I want to know is where do all the supporters of the regimes go when they're toppled. They don't just suddenly change sides and become model citizens of the new state, and they're not all imprisoned or shot. A handful might realise the error of their ways, turn over a new leaf and keep their heads down, but the rest will simply melt into the background and await their chance to cause mayhem in future, or when the "peacekeepers" leave, sieze the chance to grab power again, like the Taliban did.
Very true, the top figures may well flee to Russia like Assad and instigate trouble from there. But you can’t blame the Iranian people for wanting an end to this murderous regime and it should lead to a better future for them. They could all be jailed for example ans there are precedents for toppling vile dictatorships and a peaceful future, like in the former Soviet bloc, Yugoslavia etc.
I hope this thread can keep going as events unfold, and not turn into an argument and get pulled…
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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 06:30 - Jan 14 with 744 views
1. Iran/Persia has a rich cultural history going back millennia and long pre-dating Islam, so the straightjacket that the mullahs have imposed these last 45 or so years has always struck me as tragic.
2. In my 20s I went out with the daughter of a family who had moved to London following the fall of the Shah. She has spent her professional life in exile opposing the regime, exposing human rights abuses and assisting people seeking asylum who have fled the regime.
3. Recent events have brought into sharp focus the brutality of the regime but this is an ongoing thing as evidenced by the fact that, according to the Migration Observatory, Iranians have made up the largest national group among people crossing the English Channel in small boats since 2018. But to many they're just "illegals".
4. Reports in recent days on the World Service have indicated protestors chanting the name of Reza Pahlavi, the son of the Shah. It appears that he has had dealings with the Trump administration but I did wonder if such a person would be the right person to lead the country given the human rights abuses of the Shah's regime. I also wondered whether he would have widespread support in the country. And I came across this article in the Jerusalem Post which mentions similar reservations about him and about changes from the outside.
5. Both Pahlavi and Trump have called for continuation of the uprisings but I do wonder if the moment has passed. It is difficult to gauge Trump's real intentions here. He appears to be talking in terms of human rights but the US has a strategic interest in weaking Iran and it is not clear to me that sanctions and bombing will improve the lot of the people or even lead to democracy, given the brutality of the regime and the fact that it still seems to have a fair degree of support.
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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 08:37 - Jan 14 with 670 views
“The Iranian regime is in trouble. Bringing in mercenaries is its last best hope. Riots in dozens of cities and the Basij under siege — Mashed, Tehran, Zahedan,” Pompeo writes on X.
“Next stop: Baluchistan. 47 years of this regime; POTUS 47. Coincidence? Happy New Year to every Iranian in the streets. Also to every Mossad agent walking beside them,” he adds.
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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 09:10 - Jan 14 with 632 views
Iranian authorities have executed over 1,000 people thus far in 2025 [September,] the highest number of yearly executions in Iran that the organization has recorded in at least 15 years, said Amnesty International. The organization is calling on the Iranian authorities to establish an immediate moratorium on executions as a first step, and issuing an urgent plea on other states to immediately intervene to pressure the Iranian authorities to halt all planned executions.
Within less than nine months, the number of people executed by the Iranian authorities so far this year has already surpassed last year’s grim total of 972 executions.
Since the 2022 Woman Life Freedom uprising, the Iranian authorities increased their use of the death penalty as a tool of state repression and to crush dissent, and amid an ongoing spike in executions for drug-related offences. In 2025 the authorities have also intensified their use of the death penalty under the guise of national security in the aftermath of the escalation of hostilities between Israel and Iran in June 2025 following Israeli military strikes against Iran.
“The ongoing escalation of executions in Iran has reached horrific proportions as the Iranian authorities continue to systematically weaponize the death penalty as a tool of repression and to quash dissent while displaying a chilling assault on the right to life,” said Heba Morayef, Regional Director for the Middle East and North Africa at Amnesty International.
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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 10:24 - Jan 14 with 567 views
Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 23:30 - Jan 13 by GlasgowBlue
It appears this Labour MP feels the same.
Coincidentally I was reading an old thread in which you were calling out banksy for the same inconsistency with regards to deaths of Muslims at the hands of regimes other than Israel.
i agree that we want to see the toppling of the regime, but the means and what replaces it is just as important.
as for banksy, you guys seem to be pretty similar, i'm sure you both have good hearts and mean well, but as with anyone there are unconscious biases at play.
there's more in common and you're both very different from the edgelords, trolls and extremists who can plague this site
Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 10:24 - Jan 14 by positivity
i agree that we want to see the toppling of the regime, but the means and what replaces it is just as important.
as for banksy, you guys seem to be pretty similar, i'm sure you both have good hearts and mean well, but as with anyone there are unconscious biases at play.
there's more in common and you're both very different from the edgelords, trolls and extremists who can plague this site
Awwwww (as da yoof say)....love you too xx
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 10:24 - Jan 14 by positivity
i agree that we want to see the toppling of the regime, but the means and what replaces it is just as important.
as for banksy, you guys seem to be pretty similar, i'm sure you both have good hearts and mean well, but as with anyone there are unconscious biases at play.
there's more in common and you're both very different from the edgelords, trolls and extremists who can plague this site
I don't know why but your last sentence immediately made me think of The only living boy of New Cross by Carter USM! It's ok. I'm already wearing my coat!
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Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness.
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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 22:11 - Jan 14 with 431 views
Estimates of deaths now between 12,000 -20,000. Approximately 20,000 people detained. Iranian regime using extortion to release the bodies of the dead to their families.
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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 22:11 - Jan 14 by GlasgowBlue
Al Jazeera acting as Iran's mouthpiece again.
Estimates of deaths now between 12,000 -20,000. Approximately 20,000 people detained. Iranian regime using extortion to release the bodies of the dead to their families.
Are you categorically saying that this couldn't happen?
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 01:14 - Jan 14 by Kropotkin123
They don't need an excuse, they'd be pedalling that regardless. It's one of the few times I wish the US would step in. What little has come out of Iran has had people pleading for the US to assist.
I wish Israel would get involved too. Israel's strikes on Hezbollah and Iran have been a key factor in instigating this uprising. For all the regime's puffing up that they can defend against Israel and the US, all the money they spent, trashing the economy in the process has been proven to be BS. Hence the chants "Not Gaza, not Lebanon, may my life be sacrificed for Iran". Essentially, screw the failed foreign policy diverting resources away from feeding the people of Iran.
I'd welcome strikes on Iranian military facilities and key government infrastructure.
Looks like by the time we wake up in the morning the US will have undertaken action against Iran. Israel will be attacked in retaliation.
Although I agree 100% with the sentiment of your post I’m not sure if this action will be of benefit to the Iranian people.
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Iranian State claiming 2000 protesters dead on 22:21 - Jan 14 by BanksterDebtSlave
Are you categorically saying that this couldn't happen?
I thought we were beyond accepting clams without any evidence. I can’t see it reported by any other reputable media, NGO, intelligence agency, or Analyst. If true it would play well for the Iranian regime to bring forward proof…
Some of the Arab states whilst on the face of it are adversaries of the Iranian regime also have an interest in them remaining in power, impoverished, and unfriendly with the US/West. It’s also more likely that the IRG or Iranian intelligence could plant such weapons to assist their propaganda and frame the protests as externally driven.
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