| FAO Blue Action / Ultras 19:26 - Jan 22 with 2791 views | victorysquad |
I asked ChatGpt: "do ultras travel to away games"
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"Yes, ultras extensively travel to away games, often viewing it as an obligation to support their team and represent their group's pride in other cities or countries. These, dedicated supporters frequently organize large-scale trips to create atmosphere, display banners, and march through host cities"
So why don't Blue Action travel away? (we need them, and we need the drummer, you know who you are :) )
Not seen since Port Vale away (October 25th, 2022)
I want to see us getting promoted this season, and that means we need everyone fully at it. Lets not forget the past 20 years. [Post edited 22 Jan 19:30]
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 19:30 - Jan 22 with 2204 views | bluelagos |
Given how hard it is to get tickets together with more than a handful of mates, it would need the club to engage and sell them a large group of seats.
Given the club is focused on revenue streams rather than improving atmosphere, am guessing they don't give a sh1t.
I wouldn't be criticising BA given they are at least trying to improve things, albeit there's a long way to go... |  |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 19:34 - Jan 22 with 2172 views | victorysquad |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 19:30 - Jan 22 by bluelagos |
Given how hard it is to get tickets together with more than a handful of mates, it would need the club to engage and sell them a large group of seats.
Given the club is focused on revenue streams rather than improving atmosphere, am guessing they don't give a sh1t.
I wouldn't be criticising BA given they are at least trying to improve things, albeit there's a long way to go... |
Not looking to criticise them at all, I love what they do. Provoking debate but we need them away from home too. We have 5 away games in Feb (the atmosphere has been crap in the past few).
We have an opportunity, we have waited 20 years for this, if we get promoted, it could become the norm this time round.
I want Blue Action away at Sheffield on Saturday. [Post edited 22 Jan 19:36]
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 19:36 - Jan 22 with 2140 views | Reuser_is_God |
Difficult with the points system these days. |  |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 19:39 - Jan 22 with 2123 views | victorysquad |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 19:36 - Jan 22 by Reuser_is_God |
Difficult with the points system these days. |
There are always plenty of seats, either the friends + family don't fill the allocation or the 'points hoarders' leave empty seats.
The club needs to just get on it and realise the benefits of a strong away support. | |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 19:59 - Jan 22 with 2012 views | Smoresy |
Put it to you that we don't if your date's correct, because that would make us two for two on promotion pushes since their last formal presence. We're on a roll.
Sure most are in favour of policing points purchasers (people who buy and don't go) better though. | | | |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:05 - Jan 22 with 1991 views | Plums |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 19:39 - Jan 22 by victorysquad |
There are always plenty of seats, either the friends + family don't fill the allocation or the 'points hoarders' leave empty seats.
The club needs to just get on it and realise the benefits of a strong away support. |
They should also open general sale on the day of a game regardless of the points threshold. Spare seats would be snapped up by non-members. |  |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:09 - Jan 22 with 1974 views | victorysquad |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 19:59 - Jan 22 by Smoresy |
Put it to you that we don't if your date's correct, because that would make us two for two on promotion pushes since their last formal presence. We're on a roll.
Sure most are in favour of policing points purchasers (people who buy and don't go) better though. |
I am saying it is the last time I have seen a strong presence. I get getting tickets it harder now, but we need to prioritise vocal support for away games, we are in the minority anyway. | |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:09 - Jan 22 with 1974 views | stonojnr |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 19:39 - Jan 22 by victorysquad |
There are always plenty of seats, either the friends + family don't fill the allocation or the 'points hoarders' leave empty seats.
The club needs to just get on it and realise the benefits of a strong away support. |
I thought everyone claimed our away support was much better than the home support
Which is it ? | | | |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:10 - Jan 22 with 1975 views | Illinoisblue |
lol at so proudly asking ChatGPT. Deary me. |  |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:13 - Jan 22 with 1947 views | victorysquad |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:10 - Jan 22 by Illinoisblue |
lol at so proudly asking ChatGPT. Deary me. |
It's the future, don't fight it! | |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:14 - Jan 22 with 1943 views | victorysquad |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:09 - Jan 22 by stonojnr |
I thought everyone claimed our away support was much better than the home support
Which is it ? |
Our away support is shite, our home support is shite. Question is, can we get a decent away end for Sheffield or not because I will be honest with you, I can't see many singers going and the boys deserve better.
Not being critical of BA away from home, just saying we need them away from home as well. So I am going to condense this into a simple question: are you going to help us or not?
We have a massive opportunity right now. [Post edited 22 Jan 20:25]
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:47 - Jan 22 with 1812 views | Stenvict |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:14 - Jan 22 by victorysquad |
Our away support is shite, our home support is shite. Question is, can we get a decent away end for Sheffield or not because I will be honest with you, I can't see many singers going and the boys deserve better.
Not being critical of BA away from home, just saying we need them away from home as well. So I am going to condense this into a simple question: are you going to help us or not?
We have a massive opportunity right now. [Post edited 22 Jan 20:25]
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The away end on Saturday won't be great due to being spread out across the whole of the stand behind the goal.
The only way to get BA together in an away end is to give them the batch of tickets for players/staff, but that'll never happen. | |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 21:06 - Jan 22 with 1748 views | bluelagos |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 19:34 - Jan 22 by victorysquad |
Not looking to criticise them at all, I love what they do. Provoking debate but we need them away from home too. We have 5 away games in Feb (the atmosphere has been crap in the past few).
We have an opportunity, we have waited 20 years for this, if we get promoted, it could become the norm this time round.
I want Blue Action away at Sheffield on Saturday. [Post edited 22 Jan 19:36]
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Think you are spot on.
For it to work, BA members would need to be identifiable on the booking system and a few seats together held back for those members (Assuming they have the points)
That would take a computer programmer about 5 minutes work tbh | |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 21:10 - Jan 22 with 1730 views | Smoresy |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:09 - Jan 22 by victorysquad |
I am saying it is the last time I have seen a strong presence. I get getting tickets it harder now, but we need to prioritise vocal support for away games, we are in the minority anyway. |
Like your objective (am all aboard moving BA into 5 personally, to heck with the fallout), just not sure on the necessity factor aha. Feels we've climbed the table in spite of our support dare I say it, and players look in good shape to carry themselves, albeit our numbers are very helpful to paying their wages. | | | |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 22:18 - Jan 22 with 1601 views | BlueBadger |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:13 - Jan 22 by victorysquad |
It's the future, don't fight it! |
Bloody hell Elon, go to bed. |  |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 00:05 - Jan 23 with 1468 views | bartyg |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:13 - Jan 22 by victorysquad |
It's the future, don't fight it! |
Chatgpt reminds me when to breathe! It is a godsend. |  | | |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 00:12 - Jan 23 with 1453 views | armchaircritic59 |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:13 - Jan 22 by victorysquad |
It's the future, don't fight it! |
It most certainly is, not just ChatGPT, there are others, I know, I use them, and I have plenty of insights as to where AI is going over the next decade. Just for now, always remember what you get at the bottom of chat bot pages. " Chat GPt etc, can make mistakes ", pretty obvious really as it's invented and trained by humans, so if in any doubts, check the sources you get given. | | | |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 06:47 - Jan 23 with 1303 views | jasondozzell |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:14 - Jan 22 by victorysquad |
Our away support is shite, our home support is shite. Question is, can we get a decent away end for Sheffield or not because I will be honest with you, I can't see many singers going and the boys deserve better.
Not being critical of BA away from home, just saying we need them away from home as well. So I am going to condense this into a simple question: are you going to help us or not?
We have a massive opportunity right now. [Post edited 22 Jan 20:25]
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Our away support isn't shite. |  | | |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 07:52 - Jan 23 with 1233 views | ashtonscoffeecup |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 19:39 - Jan 22 by victorysquad |
There are always plenty of seats, either the friends + family don't fill the allocation or the 'points hoarders' leave empty seats.
The club needs to just get on it and realise the benefits of a strong away support. |
or, and this is a wild idea, those that do go to away games unfold their arms, put down their Bovril, and join in/create an atmosphere?
Will never cease to amaze me that people get in their cars, take trains, from 0700/0800 to get to a game - then stand in silence.
Each to their own of course, but bizarre | | | |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 07:55 - Jan 23 with 1231 views | ashtonscoffeecup |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:47 - Jan 22 by Stenvict |
The away end on Saturday won't be great due to being spread out across the whole of the stand behind the goal.
The only way to get BA together in an away end is to give them the batch of tickets for players/staff, but that'll never happen. |
"The away end on Saturday won't be great due to being spread out across the whole of the stand behind the goal"
Again, excuses. I've watched many a game where Sheffield United are at home, and the away fans have created tremendous noise - because they are the away fans and supporting their team properly | | | |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 12:28 - Jan 23 with 927 views | SaleAway |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 06:47 - Jan 23 by jasondozzell |
Our away support isn't shite. |
As an away only fan... I live in Manchester, so try to get to games north of watford, I think our away support is immense. In terms of numbers, travelling huge distances, I have nothing but respect. Over the two promotion seasons, our noise and support was great.
To be fair, the support this season hasn't been as vocal, but I would also point out that the performances haven't been great either.
I've been to:
Blackburn(abandoned): poor weather, poor pitch, poor performance.. crowd were ok
Hull: First half was one of the worst halves of football I have ever seen. Hard to believe that those two teams are now top of the form tables.
Blackburn(replay): again, performance was poor.... scraped a draw against a diabolical team
Leicester: Only game I have considered leaving after 60 minutes... yes, we went behind to 2 worldies, but our levels of performance was so poor. They gifted us a goal, and that was the only way we were going to score, because we coudn't pass water....
hopefully we can harness the positivity from the current run of form, and come out firing, both the crowd and the team on saturday, and this can push us on.
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| It is not "trained by humans" on 13:16 - Jan 23 with 878 views | Dyland |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 00:12 - Jan 23 by armchaircritic59 |
It most certainly is, not just ChatGPT, there are others, I know, I use them, and I have plenty of insights as to where AI is going over the next decade. Just for now, always remember what you get at the bottom of chat bot pages. " Chat GPt etc, can make mistakes ", pretty obvious really as it's invented and trained by humans, so if in any doubts, check the sources you get given. |
It isn't even trained. Like "machine learning" this is weasel language used by big tech to create a narrative where they profit whilst human creators whose art, music, film, writing, etc. lose out. It continues a dangerous trend of anthropomorphosising machines, and hinders the development of genuine AGI and AI that's genuinely beneficial to humanity.
Large language models such as chatGBT scrape online data from pretty much any old thing. The companies do also license content from curated or reliable data sets and sources but the output is often wrong, and unchecked. As you say, people should always check primary sources. LLMs are not a primary source and never will be. Indeed, they "train" on their own output. It is snake oil. A veritable crock of sh1t. Google AI overview is a classic example of why not to trust this, and to think for oneself.
LLMs don't have eyes, ears, noses or brains. They can't "learn". They copy and store humans' words and creative endeavours that are online (usually without permission) and then churn out the same or similar that a) benefits the tech company and b) competes with the original content and effectively puts humans out of work and business.
Last word... money is power, and the US Tech lobby is very, very strong in the UK as well as the US. This power is very quickly becoming distilled into a small cabal of delusional nutjobs who are anti-competitive, anti-democratic, and driven by two things only, profit and ego. We're effectively a vassal state anyway but any right minded UK citizen should resist. It is not futile :) |  |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 13:36 - Jan 23 with 804 views | J2BLUE |
The tone of that OP is incredible. |  |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 14:24 - Jan 23 with 737 views | witchdoctor |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:09 - Jan 22 by stonojnr |
I thought everyone claimed our away support was much better than the home support
Which is it ? |
it is…and away support is just fine..👍 |  | | |
| It is not "trained by humans" on 15:00 - Jan 23 with 691 views | SaleAway |
| It is not "trained by humans" on 13:16 - Jan 23 by Dyland |
It isn't even trained. Like "machine learning" this is weasel language used by big tech to create a narrative where they profit whilst human creators whose art, music, film, writing, etc. lose out. It continues a dangerous trend of anthropomorphosising machines, and hinders the development of genuine AGI and AI that's genuinely beneficial to humanity.
Large language models such as chatGBT scrape online data from pretty much any old thing. The companies do also license content from curated or reliable data sets and sources but the output is often wrong, and unchecked. As you say, people should always check primary sources. LLMs are not a primary source and never will be. Indeed, they "train" on their own output. It is snake oil. A veritable crock of sh1t. Google AI overview is a classic example of why not to trust this, and to think for oneself.
LLMs don't have eyes, ears, noses or brains. They can't "learn". They copy and store humans' words and creative endeavours that are online (usually without permission) and then churn out the same or similar that a) benefits the tech company and b) competes with the original content and effectively puts humans out of work and business.
Last word... money is power, and the US Tech lobby is very, very strong in the UK as well as the US. This power is very quickly becoming distilled into a small cabal of delusional nutjobs who are anti-competitive, anti-democratic, and driven by two things only, profit and ego. We're effectively a vassal state anyway but any right minded UK citizen should resist. It is not futile :) |
I’ve just been down an hour long CHATGPT rabbit hole by SaleAway 16 Jan 10:43There's a lot to be said for not equating ChatGPT with the general capabilities of AI. GPT-4 is trained on huge amounts of internet data, but that data is not really curated. AI models developed for medical, commercial, defence use, will likely be trained on much more reliable data sets.
Yes, ChatGPT gets a lot of things very wrong, but AI for specific tasks when it is developed with rigour can be incredibly powerful. Like any tool, using the right tool for the right job is key.
You wouldn't entrust the software that controls your car's brakes to a random programmer on the internet, without lots of checks and balances, in the same way that safety critical AI has to be trained and verified under really strict conditions.
Do you think AI or Donald Trump pose more immediate risk to world peace? :-)
probably worth reading this comment. The idea that AI is ChatGPT is hugely missing the point. LLMs can do much more than regurgitate guff from the internet. I have a project where an LLM monitors the output of various financial regulatory bodies, then maps it to policies in order to provide compliance reports for banks. This is AI in a highly regulated industry, where the models need to be trained, validated and traceable to an incredibly high standard. | |
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