| Midfielder higher priority imo 16:59 - Jan 24 with 6444 views | kizaitfc |
Cajuste and Taylor dont compare with some of the better CMs in the Championship.
Azor is a solid holding midfielder but he needs a box to box man next to him, or a no.10 that can control the game (Nunez a big miss today).
We need a Hayden Hackney style player, I know we aren't getting him but someone similar is needed
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| Midfielder higher priority imo on 14:24 - Jan 26 with 845 views | LeoMuff |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:17 - Jan 26 by TheBlueGnu |
Cajust is excellent in my opinion. The only piece of the jigsaw missing is a reliable striker. |
Our most creative midfielder with 4 goal contributions this season ? Probably paid as high as any other player in the whole league, that has at best 50 mins in the tank. Please.
Midfielder is essential, which is why hopefully we will get one over the line in the next 2 days. |  |
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| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:21 - Jan 27 with 736 views | TheBlueGnu |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 14:24 - Jan 26 by LeoMuff |
Our most creative midfielder with 4 goal contributions this season ? Probably paid as high as any other player in the whole league, that has at best 50 mins in the tank. Please.
Midfielder is essential, which is why hopefully we will get one over the line in the next 2 days. |
fair comment, but he does enjoy Gingered Zucchini Marmalade on his toast in the mornings. | |
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| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:33 - Jan 27 with 710 views | itfcsuth |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 14:19 - Jan 26 by tractorboy1978 |
Not sure why you have such a high opinion of yourself?
Can you seriously not see why a player that has such availability issues is a problem for us? With respect, if he struggles to do back to back games or get through much more than 60 mins when he does play, his use to us is seriously diminished. His defensive discipline is also a problem which is why I imagine he prefers Taylor in the tough away games. |
What are his availability issues, Cajuste has missed 1 matchday squad all season?
Where has McKenna said Cajuste can't go more than 60 minutes, it's a myth. McKenna has chose to rotate Cajuste and Taylor throughout the season, he does that across multiple positions.
He's played more minutes than Azon, nobody has once suggested Azon is incapable of going beyond 60 minutes.
Just nonsense. |  | | |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:39 - Jan 27 with 698 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:21 - Jan 27 by TheBlueGnu |
fair comment, but he does enjoy Gingered Zucchini Marmalade on his toast in the mornings. |
Should be a light slathering of Kerry gold and nothing else, maybe a dollop of Hartley's strawberry at the weekend. Anything else is suspicious.
On white thick sliced, goes without saying. [Post edited 27 Jan 12:39]
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| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:44 - Jan 27 with 687 views | portmanking |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:33 - Jan 27 by itfcsuth |
What are his availability issues, Cajuste has missed 1 matchday squad all season?
Where has McKenna said Cajuste can't go more than 60 minutes, it's a myth. McKenna has chose to rotate Cajuste and Taylor throughout the season, he does that across multiple positions.
He's played more minutes than Azon, nobody has once suggested Azon is incapable of going beyond 60 minutes.
Just nonsense. |
I can assure you Cajuste's fitness issues *are* still ongoing. He's just not robust enough for this league. Nor does he impact the game enough week to week. Fantastic highlights reel, but the dire off-the-ball issues outweigh the pros sadly.
As for Azon, I think it's fair to say he was nowhere near in shape for Championship football in August. I think Ivan has started to look leaner and sharper in the last 2-3 weeks. | | | |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:50 - Jan 27 with 674 views | NthQldITFC |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:44 - Jan 27 by portmanking |
I can assure you Cajuste's fitness issues *are* still ongoing. He's just not robust enough for this league. Nor does he impact the game enough week to week. Fantastic highlights reel, but the dire off-the-ball issues outweigh the pros sadly.
As for Azon, I think it's fair to say he was nowhere near in shape for Championship football in August. I think Ivan has started to look leaner and sharper in the last 2-3 weeks. |
Uppied mainly for the Azon comment. He looks like he's got a pretty powerful chest and shoulders build, and it's hard to shift that much upper body weight around when twisting and turning a lot. I guess he's done some extra conditioning work to balance that out a bit with his leg power for the Championship. I think he's turning into a cracking player, hope we can keep him for next season. |  |
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| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:59 - Jan 27 with 632 views | itfcsuth |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:44 - Jan 27 by portmanking |
I can assure you Cajuste's fitness issues *are* still ongoing. He's just not robust enough for this league. Nor does he impact the game enough week to week. Fantastic highlights reel, but the dire off-the-ball issues outweigh the pros sadly.
As for Azon, I think it's fair to say he was nowhere near in shape for Championship football in August. I think Ivan has started to look leaner and sharper in the last 2-3 weeks. |
What are the ongoing fitness issues? What are his dire of the ball issues?
I've not once watched Jens Cajuste and thought he looks unfit, incapable athletically, and certainly not technically.
The guys a class act, pure footballer. | | | |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 13:11 - Jan 27 with 617 views | eirannach_gorm |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:59 - Jan 27 by itfcsuth |
What are the ongoing fitness issues? What are his dire of the ball issues?
I've not once watched Jens Cajuste and thought he looks unfit, incapable athletically, and certainly not technically.
The guys a class act, pure footballer. |
... but not very effective. | | | |
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| Midfielder higher priority imo on 13:29 - Jan 27 with 576 views | Vic |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:59 - Jan 27 by itfcsuth |
What are the ongoing fitness issues? What are his dire of the ball issues?
I've not once watched Jens Cajuste and thought he looks unfit, incapable athletically, and certainly not technically.
The guys a class act, pure footballer. |
Dire 'off the ball issues' for me = his inability, unwillingness (or whatever) to consistently track back. He does it occasionally, but not enough for a team that needs one for all and all for one.
There's no doubt that he's a lovely looking footballer - reminds me of Jason Dozzell - but he doesn't have enough end product (sadly). |  |
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| Midfielder higher priority imo on 13:42 - Jan 27 with 550 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:33 - Jan 27 by itfcsuth |
What are his availability issues, Cajuste has missed 1 matchday squad all season?
Where has McKenna said Cajuste can't go more than 60 minutes, it's a myth. McKenna has chose to rotate Cajuste and Taylor throughout the season, he does that across multiple positions.
He's played more minutes than Azon, nobody has once suggested Azon is incapable of going beyond 60 minutes.
Just nonsense. |
You can’t be serious? The bloke looks completely fecked after not much more than a hour. Dan Neil will come in and play every game he is available for alongside Matusiwa. That’ll tell you all you need to know about where McKenna sees Cajuste’s impact and fitness this season. [Post edited 27 Jan 13:43]
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| Midfielder higher priority imo on 13:46 - Jan 27 with 537 views | portmanking |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:59 - Jan 27 by itfcsuth |
What are the ongoing fitness issues? What are his dire of the ball issues?
I've not once watched Jens Cajuste and thought he looks unfit, incapable athletically, and certainly not technically.
The guys a class act, pure footballer. |
His knee remains a big issue. It requires major surgery for a long-term fix.
Re. off the ball - since you're such a football guru, let's delve deeper, shall we?
He's in the Championship's *11th* percentile for being dribbled past (poor determination/athleticism?)
He's in the 32nd percentile for clearances (I know that's not his main remit, but still low).
He's in the 42nd percentile for interceptions (so more than half of midfielders in the Champ can intercept/outsmart opposing midfielders better than Jens).
He's in the SEVENTH percentile for being dispossessed, losing the ball 1.78 times per 90 on average (so 93% of Champ midfielders retain possession better than Jens).
All of which would be fine if he was putting up numbers elsewhere, but...
He's in the 62nd percentile for xG and npxG. He's only in the 80th percentile for key passes made. Given his salary/status, I'd be wanting *far* less than 20% of the Championship's midfielders to have better key passing metrics than him.
The only metric he excels in is xA, where he's in the 95th percentile - and even that only amounts to three assists. [Post edited 27 Jan 13:48]
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| Midfielder higher priority imo on 13:48 - Jan 27 with 525 views | Abracadobra |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 12:59 - Jan 27 by itfcsuth |
What are the ongoing fitness issues? What are his dire of the ball issues?
I've not once watched Jens Cajuste and thought he looks unfit, incapable athletically, and certainly not technically.
The guys a class act, pure footballer. |
Yep, such a class act that he gets kept out of the team by Jack Taylor. If you really think Cajuste attempts or wins enough defensive duels then I fail to believe you’ve been watching our games this season. He’s not even that remarkable technically outside of being able to spin away from his man occasionally.
Can’t wait for Dan Neil to finally give us the much needed improvement in that position. |  | | |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 13:52 - Jan 27 with 502 views | Abracadobra |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 13:46 - Jan 27 by portmanking |
His knee remains a big issue. It requires major surgery for a long-term fix.
Re. off the ball - since you're such a football guru, let's delve deeper, shall we?
He's in the Championship's *11th* percentile for being dribbled past (poor determination/athleticism?)
He's in the 32nd percentile for clearances (I know that's not his main remit, but still low).
He's in the 42nd percentile for interceptions (so more than half of midfielders in the Champ can intercept/outsmart opposing midfielders better than Jens).
He's in the SEVENTH percentile for being dispossessed, losing the ball 1.78 times per 90 on average (so 93% of Champ midfielders retain possession better than Jens).
All of which would be fine if he was putting up numbers elsewhere, but...
He's in the 62nd percentile for xG and npxG. He's only in the 80th percentile for key passes made. Given his salary/status, I'd be wanting *far* less than 20% of the Championship's midfielders to have better key passing metrics than him.
The only metric he excels in is xA, where he's in the 95th percentile - and even that only amounts to three assists. [Post edited 27 Jan 13:48]
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Great post, the stats certainly back up the eye test for those of us with “football knowledge”! | | | |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 14:36 - Jan 27 with 426 views | itfcsuth |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 13:46 - Jan 27 by portmanking |
His knee remains a big issue. It requires major surgery for a long-term fix.
Re. off the ball - since you're such a football guru, let's delve deeper, shall we?
He's in the Championship's *11th* percentile for being dribbled past (poor determination/athleticism?)
He's in the 32nd percentile for clearances (I know that's not his main remit, but still low).
He's in the 42nd percentile for interceptions (so more than half of midfielders in the Champ can intercept/outsmart opposing midfielders better than Jens).
He's in the SEVENTH percentile for being dispossessed, losing the ball 1.78 times per 90 on average (so 93% of Champ midfielders retain possession better than Jens).
All of which would be fine if he was putting up numbers elsewhere, but...
He's in the 62nd percentile for xG and npxG. He's only in the 80th percentile for key passes made. Given his salary/status, I'd be wanting *far* less than 20% of the Championship's midfielders to have better key passing metrics than him.
The only metric he excels in is xA, where he's in the 95th percentile - and even that only amounts to three assists. [Post edited 27 Jan 13:48]
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I don't know where you've plucked them numbers from, wildly inaccurate.
You've also listed the defensive actions of Jens, without stating he's in the top 60% for duels won, and top 62% for aerial duels won - two quite important defensive metrics.
You've gauged the most minimal amount of information, and labelled it as 'delving deeper' into a player's performance, you haven't even dipped your toes in.
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| Midfielder higher priority imo on 14:42 - Jan 27 with 402 views | portmanking |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 14:36 - Jan 27 by itfcsuth |
I don't know where you've plucked them numbers from, wildly inaccurate.
You've also listed the defensive actions of Jens, without stating he's in the top 60% for duels won, and top 62% for aerial duels won - two quite important defensive metrics.
You've gauged the most minimal amount of information, and labelled it as 'delving deeper' into a player's performance, you haven't even dipped your toes in.
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They aren't wildly inaccurate. They are the facts.
You think 40% of Champ midfielders being better than him in duels is a flex?! Yikes. | | | |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 14:42 - Jan 27 with 400 views | itfcsuth |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 13:52 - Jan 27 by Abracadobra |
Great post, the stats certainly back up the eye test for those of us with “football knowledge”! |
Didn't your football knowledge include labelling Morsy as an "Average Championship" player, and Burns and Chaplin as "Top end L1/Lower Championship" players.
Steady on. | | | |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 14:45 - Jan 27 with 394 views | itfcsuth |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 14:42 - Jan 27 by portmanking |
They aren't wildly inaccurate. They are the facts.
You think 40% of Champ midfielders being better than him in duels is a flex?! Yikes. |
They are wildly inaccurate, stop the nonsense.
I think being in the top 60% of defensive actions when that is not your primary remit for a midfield is perfectly acceptable, and far from 'dire'.
Anyway, I'm bored of this conversation now, have a great day! [Post edited 27 Jan 14:46]
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| Midfielder higher priority imo on 14:48 - Jan 27 with 383 views | portmanking |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 14:45 - Jan 27 by itfcsuth |
They are wildly inaccurate, stop the nonsense.
I think being in the top 60% of defensive actions when that is not your primary remit for a midfield is perfectly acceptable, and far from 'dire'.
Anyway, I'm bored of this conversation now, have a great day! [Post edited 27 Jan 14:46]
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It's not remotely inaccurate. They are statistics from a leading data provider that I use for trading sports/football.
Being in the 7th percentile for being dispossessed is unforgivable, no matter how you weigh it up. Being in the 11th percentile for being dribbled past also shows his lack of mobility/heart.
EDIT: Lolz. 'Bored' by data that doesn't fit your argument. Have a good one [Post edited 27 Jan 14:50]
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| Midfielder higher priority imo on 14:50 - Jan 27 with 374 views | Wright1 |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 10:01 - Jan 25 by OldFart71 |
The problem is just as was with Morsy Azor is on a tightrope, one booking away so he's possibly been told to hold back on tackling and also he's an ever present with no backup.
Why is it believed that some players need rotating and not others.
In the old days of the Mariners. Warks, Beatties etc unless a serious injury prevented them from playing they played every game.
Football in general is played on better pitches than the ploughed up fields they used to be.
Could our pitch be our achilles heal in a way because we play st home on a very decent pitch whereas away from home some of the pitches are virtually unplayable. |
Footballers are also way more athletic now than they've ever been. That causes wear and tear on your own body from the explosive movements and miles covered but also the extra exertion of battling against more athletic players. If you dropped Mariner, Wark, Beattie... any of them in the middle of our team in a Championship season they'd almost certainly need rest and rotation too... even more so if they came out of a time machine without the benefit of modern sports science to prepare. | | | |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 15:02 - Jan 27 with 326 views | portmanking |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 14:58 - Jan 27 by itfcsuth |
'Being dribbled past shows his lack of heart' 
The made data doesn't show you anything you don't already know by watching Jens, he's very good with the ball, he's weaker against the ball. That's his remit, and he's very good at his remit, pure footballer, real baller, but you'll only know that if you know football, hence you aren't going to see that.
I'd also change your data provider. |
It does show his lack of mobility/heart. His tracking of opponents and recoveries are really poor. And if you 'know football' you'd know that being strong 'against the ball' is just as important, if not more so, than with the ball at this level.
For sure, he can be a 'real baller' when he's given 30 yards of space to roam and teams step off him, but when teams go man-to-man on him, he's found wanting time after time. | | | |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 15:17 - Jan 27 with 305 views | itfcsuth |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 15:02 - Jan 27 by portmanking |
It does show his lack of mobility/heart. His tracking of opponents and recoveries are really poor. And if you 'know football' you'd know that being strong 'against the ball' is just as important, if not more so, than with the ball at this level.
For sure, he can be a 'real baller' when he's given 30 yards of space to roam and teams step off him, but when teams go man-to-man on him, he's found wanting time after time. |
Or when he rolls the ball on the back foot after dropped shoulder, sends his opponent for a hotdog and breaks 15 yards of territory.
I have't said anywhere being strong against the ball isn't important, but I also can understand and appreciate the remits of different players based upon their strengths on the pitch.
I think Cajuste is a proper footballer, smooth, just pure with it, and that is end of debate. Have a great one! | | | |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 15:27 - Jan 27 with 284 views | eirannach_gorm |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 15:17 - Jan 27 by itfcsuth |
Or when he rolls the ball on the back foot after dropped shoulder, sends his opponent for a hotdog and breaks 15 yards of territory.
I have't said anywhere being strong against the ball isn't important, but I also can understand and appreciate the remits of different players based upon their strengths on the pitch.
I think Cajuste is a proper footballer, smooth, just pure with it, and that is end of debate. Have a great one! |
I would suggest the against side wins this debate. | | | |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 15:30 - Jan 27 with 282 views | portmanking |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 15:17 - Jan 27 by itfcsuth |
Or when he rolls the ball on the back foot after dropped shoulder, sends his opponent for a hotdog and breaks 15 yards of territory.
I have't said anywhere being strong against the ball isn't important, but I also can understand and appreciate the remits of different players based upon their strengths on the pitch.
I think Cajuste is a proper footballer, smooth, just pure with it, and that is end of debate. Have a great one! |
Or when he drops the shoulder, rolls his man, then gives it away or loses it cheaply and our full backs are left high up the pitch and we're vulnerable to the counter. That happens way more often than the stuff you see on his highlight reels. There's a reason why Jack gets in ahead of Cajuste more often than not.
I accept you need a balance in midfield, but Cajuste is neither here nor there for Championship level. He's a luxury we can't afford. By all means bring him on when you're leading and the game is already stretched, but he's not someone metronomic that you can hang your hat on week in, week out a la Morsy/Luongo. | | | |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 15:38 - Jan 27 with 258 views | Wright1 |
| Midfielder higher priority imo on 20:56 - Jan 25 by itfcsuth |
To me, the biggest issues still remain in the front quartet, wher le we were so once connected, consistent and cohesive we are now the polar opposite.
We are probably 3/4 through the season and we can’t really name the consistent quartet that KMc prefers, we’ve seen so many variations and it has largely shown in the performance, at times we show a real lack of chemistry.
ST: Hirst, Azon, Akpom
RM: Burns, Egeli, McAteer
CAM: Nunez, Szmodics, Mehmeti
LM: Clarke, Philogene
11 into 4 positions, it looks unbalanced to me - and there has been no combination I’ve seen yet that looks remotely connected, cohesive and compliment each other.
That was the magic of Briadhead, Chaplin, Burns and Hirst, just how special they complimented each other, how well they connected and how special their chemistry was.
It’s such a difficult formula to find, it cannot be underestimated, and why I was so surprised anf frustrated we were so happy to dismantle it. |
I don't think that's true at all. I think if the playoff final was tomorrow and everyone was fit, it would be quite easy to predict the front 4 as i stands: Philogene, Nunez, Burns, Hirst | | | |
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