| Would a fox in the box 'do'? 13:35 - Jan 27 with 1110 views | Axeldalai_lama |
Or would it be pointless and disrupt things?
I know that McKenna clearly wants a very specific type of player, and rightly so in many ways, but Moore wasn't that similar to what we needed last time and did the job, so would a goal hanger, or a less mobile big old unit be a decent option anyway?
Maybe what I'm saying is, if there was a player of the standard we need available, but not the exact type of forward, is that better than just giving up because the exact type of player and quality we want isn't available? |  | | |  |
| Would a fox in the box 'do'? on 13:36 - Jan 27 with 1089 views | DanTheMan |
We tried for that with Bamford in fairness. |  |
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| I’ve always thought that…. on 13:40 - Jan 27 with 1062 views | Bloots |
….we’ve lacked a different option off the bench when we are chasing a game.
Having a player who’s main attribute is an ability to take a half chance when presented would really help in those situations.
KMs reluctance to change style at any stage could cost us. |  |
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| Would a fox in the box 'do'? on 13:46 - Jan 27 with 985 views | rgp1 |
Francis Jeffers played for us years ago. |  | | |
| Would a fox in the box 'do'? on 13:57 - Jan 27 with 879 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Would a fox in the box 'do'? on 13:46 - Jan 27 by rgp1 |
Francis Jeffers played for us years ago. |
That he did. A quick wiki search shows a fairly impressive 4 goals in 9 games. | | | |
| I’ve always thought that…. on 14:05 - Jan 27 with 852 views | BseaBlue |
| I’ve always thought that…. on 13:40 - Jan 27 by Bloots |
….we’ve lacked a different option off the bench when we are chasing a game.
Having a player who’s main attribute is an ability to take a half chance when presented would really help in those situations.
KMs reluctance to change style at any stage could cost us. |
I'd argue that Moore was a differnt style of attacker when we signed him though. He wasn't really the 'pressing' type forward that we had in Hirst and Jackson.
I'd definitely like to see a different profile come in but I guess it will be needs must in a very difficult market. |  | | |
| Yeah, good point…. on 14:21 - Jan 27 with 759 views | Bloots |
| I’ve always thought that…. on 14:05 - Jan 27 by BseaBlue |
I'd argue that Moore was a differnt style of attacker when we signed him though. He wasn't really the 'pressing' type forward that we had in Hirst and Jackson.
I'd definitely like to see a different profile come in but I guess it will be needs must in a very difficult market. |
….definitely gave us a different option.
We could do with one now too. | |
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| I’ve always thought that…. on 14:25 - Jan 27 with 734 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| I’ve always thought that…. on 14:05 - Jan 27 by BseaBlue |
I'd argue that Moore was a differnt style of attacker when we signed him though. He wasn't really the 'pressing' type forward that we had in Hirst and Jackson.
I'd definitely like to see a different profile come in but I guess it will be needs must in a very difficult market. |
I'd like to think pragmatism kicks in at some point. Surely the more difficult the market the more wide the parameters should be. Otherwise were hanging on for 1 or 2 unlikely deals that snuff out at the last minute, as opposed to a wider net with 5 or 6 deals that are less perfect but still quality.
Basically I'm a bored football fan who has no clue, but waffling helps somehow! | | | |
| I’ve always thought that…. on 14:37 - Jan 27 with 658 views | gsoly |
| I’ve always thought that…. on 14:25 - Jan 27 by Axeldalai_lama |
I'd like to think pragmatism kicks in at some point. Surely the more difficult the market the more wide the parameters should be. Otherwise were hanging on for 1 or 2 unlikely deals that snuff out at the last minute, as opposed to a wider net with 5 or 6 deals that are less perfect but still quality.
Basically I'm a bored football fan who has no clue, but waffling helps somehow! |
The issue with this is, someone sixth on our list may be no better than what's already in the building. And then you've got Hirst, Azon, Akpom + one other. Be terrible for morale/squad management. |  | | |
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| I’ve always thought that…. on 14:41 - Jan 27 with 644 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| I’ve always thought that…. on 14:37 - Jan 27 by gsoly |
The issue with this is, someone sixth on our list may be no better than what's already in the building. And then you've got Hirst, Azon, Akpom + one other. Be terrible for morale/squad management. |
Yeah, I guess that's the counter. But that's my point with the different style thing. If it was another clogger who plays exactly the same but is less good then of course don't bother. But if it is a huge lump or a speedster fox in the box type then would that not be worth it to widen options despite not being our usual mode of forward? | | | |
| Would a fox in the box 'do'? on 15:05 - Jan 27 with 563 views | homer_123 |
Given we are not struggling to score or create chances (yes, we could be better at converting them).
A traditional striker in the mould of Rush, Linekar even Jeffers is not what we need. Our entire approach is around pressing, winning the ball back high or instigating a press from our lead forward, then linking up play, bringing others into the game etc.
We'd lose out on all of that and therefore the number of scoring opportunities we'd create would diminish and your fox in the box is moot as we are not creating. |  |
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| I think the point.... on 15:12 - Jan 27 with 522 views | Bloots |
| Would a fox in the box 'do'? on 15:05 - Jan 27 by homer_123 |
Given we are not struggling to score or create chances (yes, we could be better at converting them).
A traditional striker in the mould of Rush, Linekar even Jeffers is not what we need. Our entire approach is around pressing, winning the ball back high or instigating a press from our lead forward, then linking up play, bringing others into the game etc.
We'd lose out on all of that and therefore the number of scoring opportunities we'd create would diminish and your fox in the box is moot as we are not creating. |
...is that in those games where we are struggling to create many chances, it's frustrating when the odd one we do create falls to Hirst or Azon and they miss it, which they do more often than not.
Plus the more general point is that when we are chasing a game it would be useful to bring on a "johnny on the spot" for the last 20 mins rather than either tweedle dum or tweedle dee and just see more of the same.
We rarely look like rescuing matches at the moment, which is the antithesis of what we've seen previously.
Ho hum. | |
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| Would a fox in the box 'do'? on 15:14 - Jan 27 with 511 views | hoppy |
| Would a fox in the box 'do'? on 13:57 - Jan 27 by Axeldalai_lama |
That he did. A quick wiki search shows a fairly impressive 4 goals in 9 games. |
I would suggest even more impressive was DJ Campbell...
(also from Wiki)
Ipswich Town (loan)
Campbell was loaned to Ipswich Town on 5 October 2012 for three months.[63] In his first game, against Cardiff City, Campbell scored in the 45th minute.[64] He went on to score the only goal in a 1–0 win against Birmingham City on 3 November.[64] By the end of his loan spell, Campbell had scored 10 goals in 17 appearances for Ipswich.
* of little interest, I've got the shirt he scored that winner at Birmingham in, as I won it as a prize, along with a supply of Adnams for a year! |  |
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| I’ve always thought that…. on 15:22 - Jan 27 with 435 views | Garv |
| I’ve always thought that…. on 13:40 - Jan 27 by Bloots |
….we’ve lacked a different option off the bench when we are chasing a game.
Having a player who’s main attribute is an ability to take a half chance when presented would really help in those situations.
KMs reluctance to change style at any stage could cost us. |
Szmodics is the player you're describing, but he's either been poor or played in a role that doesn't suit him.
I'd love to see the occasional return to the 'bash brothers' formation. We know Clarke can play centrally and having Szmodics playing higher up is just a no brainer.
Walton
Furlong O'Shea Kipre Greaves Davis
Azor Cajuste
Clarke
Hirst/Azon Szmodics |  |
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| Would a fox in the box 'do'? on 15:29 - Jan 27 with 392 views | Churchman |
| Would a fox in the box 'do'? on 15:14 - Jan 27 by hoppy |
I would suggest even more impressive was DJ Campbell...
(also from Wiki)
Ipswich Town (loan)
Campbell was loaned to Ipswich Town on 5 October 2012 for three months.[63] In his first game, against Cardiff City, Campbell scored in the 45th minute.[64] He went on to score the only goal in a 1–0 win against Birmingham City on 3 November.[64] By the end of his loan spell, Campbell had scored 10 goals in 17 appearances for Ipswich.
* of little interest, I've got the shirt he scored that winner at Birmingham in, as I won it as a prize, along with a supply of Adnams for a year! |
I thought DJC was excellent. He was somewhat overshadowed after he left by the arrival of McGoldrick who was a better player.
Kieffer Moore was good in that not only was he a handful that could get a goal, but he brought others into the game. I player like that would be great, but who on earth is out there?
Sunderland managed to find out of nowhere (Holland) Brobbey who’s a monster player but bought for a lot of money so I guess it’s doable. I guess who, from where and how much might be a challenge too far for a January transfer window.
People bigged up Wycombe’s Kone at the start of the season following his move to QPR, mainly as a stick to beat the recruitment team with. But having seen him, he’s looked a carthorse. The players are just not out there.
Pity Akpom had proved disappointing and Hirst is off form. He’ll be fine if he sticks at it and I still have hopes Azon will deliver the goods.
The club have done well to acquire Neil for a few months, Bristol City’s best player plus potentially one for the future in the Chelsea lad. Hopefully the first two will help us, even if, as I suspect, we fail to acquire a goalscorer |  | | |
| I think the point.... on 15:57 - Jan 27 with 335 views | homer_123 |
| I think the point.... on 15:12 - Jan 27 by Bloots |
...is that in those games where we are struggling to create many chances, it's frustrating when the odd one we do create falls to Hirst or Azon and they miss it, which they do more often than not.
Plus the more general point is that when we are chasing a game it would be useful to bring on a "johnny on the spot" for the last 20 mins rather than either tweedle dum or tweedle dee and just see more of the same.
We rarely look like rescuing matches at the moment, which is the antithesis of what we've seen previously.
Ho hum. |
...apart from the earlier part of the season. I don't think there have been many games where we haven't created chances though?
My point remains, take out that dynamic, hard working, pressing forward and the number of quality chances created drops.
Catch 22.
Add to that - for those 20 mins, how do we play? We bring on a type of player that we can't play through and aren't adept or adapted to utilise the best we can.
I'd rather we continue to do what we do. Find the right player for the way we play, even if that means waiting for the right one to become available. | |
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