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The end of free and fair elections in the USA 20:58 - Feb 2 with 1061 viewsElderGrizzly

Saying the quiet things out loud again.

Trump:”These people were brought to our country to vote, and they vote illegally. The Republicans should say, we should take over the voting in at least 15 places. The Republicans ought to nationalize the voting.”



Oh and this of course in Georgia

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 22:14 - Feb 2 with 855 viewsOlcol

USA is getting weaker every minute Trump is still president. With the evidence freely being exposed to convict him, surely there is a quick method of removal (other than assasination).
He is responsible for so much loss, both monetary and humanity.
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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 08:14 - Feb 3 with 655 viewsTownieRob

If the US want fair democracy, a great place to start would be having the same everywhere, that includes photo ID to actually vote.
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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 08:37 - Feb 3 with 583 viewsredrickstuhaart

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 08:14 - Feb 3 by TownieRob

If the US want fair democracy, a great place to start would be having the same everywhere, that includes photo ID to actually vote.


A better starting point would be a government not trying to interfere with election results.

No evidence of significant voter fraud.

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 08:47 - Feb 3 with 554 viewsTownieRob

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 08:37 - Feb 3 by redrickstuhaart

A better starting point would be a government not trying to interfere with election results.

No evidence of significant voter fraud.


'No evidence of significant fraud', it doesn’t mean the system can’t be improved.

The defensiveness suggests that mentioning the need for ID, is deemed as an accusation, when it’s really just about standardising a process.
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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 09:34 - Feb 3 with 461 viewsredrickstuhaart

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 08:47 - Feb 3 by TownieRob

'No evidence of significant fraud', it doesn’t mean the system can’t be improved.

The defensiveness suggests that mentioning the need for ID, is deemed as an accusation, when it’s really just about standardising a process.
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It's a trump narrative to support the gerrymandering and violence after he lost. Why would you support it?

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 09:39 - Feb 3 with 448 viewsartsbossbeard

out of interest, is anyone rethinking US holidays or WC attendance for this year?

I'm a big US fan and regular visitor but somehow managed to not travel there in Trump v1 and he can kiss my hairy hoop if he thinks I'm returning whilst he's in charge.

Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing.
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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 09:46 - Feb 3 with 410 viewsCheltenham_Blue

I don't know who the guy interviewing Trump is but I get strong, "He's not going to sh*g you", vibes.

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 09:46 - Feb 3 with 408 viewsSomethingBlue

Hard to sympathise with their public – they either voted for it or didn't seriously try to stop it and had all the information they needed to know this, and worse, was down the track.

The huge, deadly serious challenge is stopping it from happening here.

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 09:49 - Feb 3 with 386 viewsblueislander

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 09:39 - Feb 3 by artsbossbeard

out of interest, is anyone rethinking US holidays or WC attendance for this year?

I'm a big US fan and regular visitor but somehow managed to not travel there in Trump v1 and he can kiss my hairy hoop if he thinks I'm returning whilst he's in charge.


I have absolutely decided not to visit the USA under this regime.
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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 09:50 - Feb 3 with 377 viewsTownieRob

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 09:34 - Feb 3 by redrickstuhaart

It's a trump narrative to support the gerrymandering and violence after he lost. Why would you support it?


Democracy has to be fair and consistent for everyone, not just when the outcome or the side involved suits you. Wanting the same basic rules everywhere isn’t about backing one narrative or another.
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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:06 - Feb 3 with 309 viewsCheltenham_Blue

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 09:49 - Feb 3 by blueislander

I have absolutely decided not to visit the USA under this regime.


Same. I used to go to the US regularly both as visitor and for work. I was offered a bit of work out there recently for a UK based company, and turned it down, had conversations with Mrs Chelters and agreed we won't go until Trump is gone.

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:27 - Feb 3 with 255 viewsredrickstuhaart

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 09:50 - Feb 3 by TownieRob

Democracy has to be fair and consistent for everyone, not just when the outcome or the side involved suits you. Wanting the same basic rules everywhere isn’t about backing one narrative or another.


But focussing on a rule which is not necessary above all the blatant gerrymandering is.

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:33 - Feb 3 with 223 viewsBenters

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 09:50 - Feb 3 by TownieRob

Democracy has to be fair and consistent for everyone, not just when the outcome or the side involved suits you. Wanting the same basic rules everywhere isn’t about backing one narrative or another.


Not in Tendring District it doesn’t we are coming up to having our voting cancelled for the second time.

Balls to America I’m more concerned about Blighty 🇬🇧🤓👍

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:35 - Feb 3 with 220 viewslowhouseblue

but they're not going to be able to gerrymander results like this in a previously strongly pro trump district:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA (n/t) on 10:40 - Feb 3 with 202 viewsBuffaloBill

Yeah, because bussing in undocumented migrants to vote democrat is a real bedrock of free and fair elections
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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:42 - Feb 3 with 197 viewsTownieRob

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:27 - Feb 3 by redrickstuhaart

But focussing on a rule which is not necessary above all the blatant gerrymandering is.


Not neccessary? - you honestly think its not neccessary to show ID to vote, to ensure one vote per person or to ensure people are who they say they are?
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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:43 - Feb 3 with 195 viewsBuffaloBill

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 08:37 - Feb 3 by redrickstuhaart

A better starting point would be a government not trying to interfere with election results.

No evidence of significant voter fraud.


Like which government you refer to lol

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:44 - Feb 3 with 193 viewsBuffaloBill

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 09:39 - Feb 3 by artsbossbeard

out of interest, is anyone rethinking US holidays or WC attendance for this year?

I'm a big US fan and regular visitor but somehow managed to not travel there in Trump v1 and he can kiss my hairy hoop if he thinks I'm returning whilst he's in charge.


Grow up, nobody cares, Giles

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:45 - Feb 3 with 190 viewsBuffaloBill

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:06 - Feb 3 by Cheltenham_Blue

Same. I used to go to the US regularly both as visitor and for work. I was offered a bit of work out there recently for a UK based company, and turned it down, had conversations with Mrs Chelters and agreed we won't go until Trump is gone.


So Ruddy, bloody brave

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:50 - Feb 3 with 175 viewsartsbossbeard

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:44 - Feb 3 by BuffaloBill

Grow up, nobody cares, Giles


Hank the Yank triggered.

Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing.
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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 11:06 - Feb 3 with 93 viewsCheltenham_Blue

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:45 - Feb 3 by BuffaloBill

So Ruddy, bloody brave


You need a hug?

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 11:13 - Feb 3 with 70 viewsBuffaloBill

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:50 - Feb 3 by artsbossbeard

Hank the Yank triggered.


Ok Giles, as I say - you're very unimportant. Nobody cares

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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 11:15 - Feb 3 with 52 viewsartsbossbeard

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 11:13 - Feb 3 by BuffaloBill

Ok Giles, as I say - you're very unimportant. Nobody cares


Nobody cares but you're crying about it on a footy forum.

Gotcha, Hank.

Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing.
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The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 11:18 - Feb 3 with 41 viewsClapham_Junction

The end of free and fair elections in the USA on 10:42 - Feb 3 by TownieRob

Not neccessary? - you honestly think its not neccessary to show ID to vote, to ensure one vote per person or to ensure people are who they say they are?


Given we've managed it for decades with hardly any issues, yes.

(The Electoral Commission reports that the number of cases of personation is "so low as to be immaterial").
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