| Bloody refugees 07:54 - Feb 6 with 3674 views | Herbivore |
Coming over here and getting priority for social housing over the indigenous population.
Oh, wait, that also seems to be boll0cks: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art |  |
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| Bloody refugees on 12:46 - Feb 6 with 861 views | Herbivore |
| Bloody refugees on 12:37 - Feb 6 by badadski |
I appreciate how hard it is for a person with no domicile/ identity/bank account to gain employment and have worked in the sector of trying to get vulnerable individuals back into education or work.
Unfortunately the information is not misinformation, the amount of amount of property insurance policies that have to be underwritten allowing specifically refugees or emergency housing again specifically for refugees/asylum seekers by groups such as Nacro, Serco, Cromwood coming through on a daily basis is massive.
More so now the Hotels are less frequently used due to the public uproar and bashing government got for facilitating the scheme in the first place and how much money it was costing per hotel which was eye watering.
Its a massive problem either way but of course know there will be undocumented immigrants/aliens that do not want to run the risk of being documented/processed and going through legal channels for right to remain and choose to rough sleep the same as any other rough sleeper. |
I'll repeat again, this story is not about asylum seekers or people who are here illegally, it's about people who have had their asylum claims accepted. They are here legally and have a right to be here. You seem to be arguing a different point. | |
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| Bloody refugees on 12:46 - Feb 6 with 841 views | bartyg |
| Bloody refugees on 12:45 - Feb 6 by badadski |
Americanised slang term, undocumented immigrant if it makes you feel better. |
You call it Americanised, I call it Xenophobic. |  | | |
| Bloody refugees on 13:17 - Feb 6 with 803 views | Herbivore |
| Bloody refugees on 12:40 - Feb 6 by JackNorthStand |
Why don’t you offer a room in your house to welcome some? |
Partly because I don't have room and party because it's a government's responsibility to ensure adequate housing is available rather than mine. Even if I had room, offering a room to someone isn't going to fix the problem, is it? Do you have any actual solutions are or you just being a berk? | |
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| Bloody refugees on 13:27 - Feb 6 with 776 views | JackNorthStand |
| Bloody refugees on 13:17 - Feb 6 by Herbivore |
Partly because I don't have room and party because it's a government's responsibility to ensure adequate housing is available rather than mine. Even if I had room, offering a room to someone isn't going to fix the problem, is it? Do you have any actual solutions are or you just being a berk? |
Ah you don’t have room and it’s the governments problem. I definately agree it’s the governments problem, one they have caused and failed to manage ( both current and previous governments ). [Post edited 6 Feb 13:28]
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| Bloody refugees on 13:34 - Feb 6 with 747 views | J2BLUE |
| Bloody refugees on 12:40 - Feb 6 by JackNorthStand |
Why don’t you offer a room in your house to welcome some? |
I don't think wanting less immigration makes people racist or bad people but surely we can have some empathy for a 26 year old woman whose entire family has been killed? If it costs the taxpayer a couple of thousand a month to get her off the streets that is surely the right thing to do?
Granting people refugee status only to see them end up homeless is a failure of the government. |  |
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| Bloody refugees on 13:36 - Feb 6 with 747 views | Herbivore |
| Bloody refugees on 13:27 - Feb 6 by JackNorthStand |
Ah you don’t have room and it’s the governments problem. I definately agree it’s the governments problem, one they have caused and failed to manage ( both current and previous governments ). [Post edited 6 Feb 13:28]
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So you're just being a berk then. Glad we've cleared that up. These are people who have been through the asylum process and had their applications approved. They are refugees who are fleeing war or persecution or both. Show a bit of compassion, ffs. | |
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| Bloody refugees on 13:38 - Feb 6 with 740 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Bloody refugees on 13:27 - Feb 6 by JackNorthStand |
Ah you don’t have room and it’s the governments problem. I definately agree it’s the governments problem, one they have caused and failed to manage ( both current and previous governments ). [Post edited 6 Feb 13:28]
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Most of this thread is literally about one of their solutions to manage the problem, so they are managing it. The reality is that some people don’t want a solution, they just don’t want immigrants at all. |  |
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| Bloody refugees on 14:46 - Feb 6 with 700 views | Herbivore |
| Bloody refugees on 13:34 - Feb 6 by J2BLUE |
I don't think wanting less immigration makes people racist or bad people but surely we can have some empathy for a 26 year old woman whose entire family has been killed? If it costs the taxpayer a couple of thousand a month to get her off the streets that is surely the right thing to do?
Granting people refugee status only to see them end up homeless is a failure of the government. |
It's funny that whenever posters with certain views are asked to empathise it seems to make them disappear. It's like being asked to care about other people causes them to shortcircuit. | |
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| Bloody refugees on 14:58 - Feb 6 with 675 views | MattinLondon |
| Bloody refugees on 12:40 - Feb 6 by JackNorthStand |
Why don’t you offer a room in your house to welcome some? |
In general, the same people who use that argument are the same ones who bang on about homeless veterans or use the ‘why can’t we help our own first’ chain of thought. Even through they don’t offer to house any of them themselves.
Generally speaking of course. |  | | |
| Bloody refugees on 15:12 - Feb 6 with 638 views | gtsb1966 |
| Bloody refugees on 13:17 - Feb 6 by Herbivore |
Partly because I don't have room and party because it's a government's responsibility to ensure adequate housing is available rather than mine. Even if I had room, offering a room to someone isn't going to fix the problem, is it? Do you have any actual solutions are or you just being a berk? |
Would be handy if we had enough housing for the people who legitimately live here before we worry about the people who came by illegal means. Yes I know youll say its not illegal blah blah but they didn't show there passport at passport control did they. The person in the story could've stopped in lovely sunny Spain or the south of France but no chose to come to England. I wonder why eh? |  | | |
| Bloody refugees on 15:12 - Feb 6 with 642 views | noggin |
| Bloody refugees on 12:40 - Feb 6 by JackNorthStand |
Why don’t you offer a room in your house to welcome some? |
Grow up!
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| Bloody refugees on 15:13 - Feb 6 with 641 views | noggin |
| Bloody refugees on 15:12 - Feb 6 by gtsb1966 |
Would be handy if we had enough housing for the people who legitimately live here before we worry about the people who came by illegal means. Yes I know youll say its not illegal blah blah but they didn't show there passport at passport control did they. The person in the story could've stopped in lovely sunny Spain or the south of France but no chose to come to England. I wonder why eh? |
Another heartless *****
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| Bloody refugees on 15:15 - Feb 6 with 629 views | Herbivore |
| Bloody refugees on 15:12 - Feb 6 by gtsb1966 |
Would be handy if we had enough housing for the people who legitimately live here before we worry about the people who came by illegal means. Yes I know youll say its not illegal blah blah but they didn't show there passport at passport control did they. The person in the story could've stopped in lovely sunny Spain or the south of France but no chose to come to England. I wonder why eh? |
At this point you're not worth engaging with. The points you wang on about have been responded to numerous times, often with good evidence to back them up, but you ignore it and carry on wanging on and showing your prejudice. So yeah, there's no point as you can't argue with ignorance. | |
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| Bloody refugees on 15:21 - Feb 6 with 609 views | gtsb1966 |
| Bloody refugees on 15:15 - Feb 6 by Herbivore |
At this point you're not worth engaging with. The points you wang on about have been responded to numerous times, often with good evidence to back them up, but you ignore it and carry on wanging on and showing your prejudice. So yeah, there's no point as you can't argue with ignorance. |
You dont like the truth. | | | |
| Bloody refugees on 15:28 - Feb 6 with 601 views | noggin |
| Bloody refugees on 15:21 - Feb 6 by gtsb1966 |
You dont like the truth. |
Out of interest, What is the criteria for "living here legitimately" ? [Post edited 6 Feb 15:32]
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| Bloody refugees on 15:29 - Feb 6 with 601 views | Ralphinho |
| Bloody refugees on 13:27 - Feb 6 by JackNorthStand |
Ah you don’t have room and it’s the governments problem. I definately agree it’s the governments problem, one they have caused and failed to manage ( both current and previous governments ). [Post edited 6 Feb 13:28]
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Finally, someone who is talking some sense.
On that basis, I propose that we all avoid voting for Liebour and the Tories.
Reform are the obvious answer to resolving this crisis.
P.S. we all need to ignore the fact that Reform is a party made up of the reject Tories that "caused and failed to manage" this issue.
P.P.S. please also ignore that fact that Uncle Nige was one of the main advocates for Brexit, which was the event that not only removed us from the EU, but also from the Dublin Regulations which governed the return of ̶a̶s̶y̶l̶u̶m̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶k̶e̶r̶s̶ fighting age males to the first EU country they entered. He can't be blamed for the way the aforementioned Tories handled Brexit.. Yes, he could have continued to campaign for the best outcomes for the country he claims to love so dearly, but he had other important things to do, like not turn up to his job as an MEP, go to the pub and try to secure himself a European passport. |  |
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| Bloody refugees on 15:35 - Feb 6 with 572 views | noggin |
| Bloody refugees on 12:45 - Feb 6 by bartyg |
Right wingers look past their own nose challenge- impossible. |
Oh come on, Jack is already putting up several British veterans. | |
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| Bloody refugees on 15:42 - Feb 6 with 554 views | Herbivore |
| Bloody refugees on 15:21 - Feb 6 by gtsb1966 |
You dont like the truth. |
That's a wild take given how your posts on this subject are based on ignorance and not evidence. People have taken time in the past to provide you with evidence on this subject but you aren't interested, you want to cling on to your narrow world view instead. Your feels are not the truth. | |
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| Bloody refugees on 16:32 - Feb 6 with 497 views | lowhouseblue |
| Bloody refugees on 13:34 - Feb 6 by J2BLUE |
I don't think wanting less immigration makes people racist or bad people but surely we can have some empathy for a 26 year old woman whose entire family has been killed? If it costs the taxpayer a couple of thousand a month to get her off the streets that is surely the right thing to do?
Granting people refugee status only to see them end up homeless is a failure of the government. |
absolutely this. someone who has refugee status and is classed as priority homeless should be a priority for social housing.
but refugees are not the major part of recent immigration. from the 2021 census (so before the boris wave and the peak years when all net immigration records were broken) - nationally 19.2% of social housing tenants were born abroad and in london the number is 47.6%. the 19.2% is very unevenly distributed regionally.
no one can't pretend that those numbers don't affect the availability of social housing or that it's not a consequence of past immigration. people may think that's fine, but it has had an impact on waiting lists and is undoubtedly resented by many on those lists or with family on those lists. just to pretend the issue is made up is to ignore the genuine frustrations which are driving uk politics currently. [Post edited 6 Feb 16:39]
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| Bloody refugees on 17:38 - Feb 6 with 426 views | JackNorthStand |
| Bloody refugees on 13:34 - Feb 6 by J2BLUE |
I don't think wanting less immigration makes people racist or bad people but surely we can have some empathy for a 26 year old woman whose entire family has been killed? If it costs the taxpayer a couple of thousand a month to get her off the streets that is surely the right thing to do?
Granting people refugee status only to see them end up homeless is a failure of the government. |
I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said there. How status granted and to who and what happens whilst claims are being processed is one thing and something we can debate but if asylum is granted the government have a duty to assist, that I will agree with you on. [Post edited 6 Feb 17:40]
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| Bloody refugees on 17:41 - Feb 6 with 410 views | noggin |
| Bloody refugees on 17:38 - Feb 6 by JackNorthStand |
I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said there. How status granted and to who and what happens whilst claims are being processed is one thing and something we can debate but if asylum is granted the government have a duty to assist, that I will agree with you on. [Post edited 6 Feb 17:40]
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lol. U turn. | |
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| Bloody refugees on 17:46 - Feb 6 with 400 views | eireblue |
| Bloody refugees on 17:41 - Feb 6 by noggin |
lol. U turn. |
Two Tier Stand.
You could say. |  | | |
| Bloody refugees on 17:51 - Feb 6 with 391 views | JackNorthStand |
| Bloody refugees on 17:41 - Feb 6 by noggin |
lol. U turn. |
Maybe you should try engaging in some conversation instead of random insults. On this thread alone you have replied 3 times, but really said nothing.
And you’re mocking people who have different views, finding some middle ground. | | | |
| Bloody refugees on 17:57 - Feb 6 with 374 views | noggin |
| Bloody refugees on 17:51 - Feb 6 by JackNorthStand |
Maybe you should try engaging in some conversation instead of random insults. On this thread alone you have replied 3 times, but really said nothing.
And you’re mocking people who have different views, finding some middle ground. |
Oh ok.. So explain this comment and I'll engage.
"Why don’t you offer a room in your house to welcome some?" | |
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| Bloody refugees on 20:00 - Feb 6 with 293 views | Bigalhunter |
| Bloody refugees on 17:57 - Feb 6 by noggin |
Oh ok.. So explain this comment and I'll engage.
"Why don’t you offer a room in your house to welcome some?" |
Is this a new thing whereby someone who has unsavoury views and spouts unsubstantiated nonsense, now absolves themselves of any self-responsibility or culpability, in the belief their wilful ignorance and prejudice deserves to engaged with?
I’m sure we’ve tried this before on here and got absolutely nowhere…..
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