| Suffolk Show ground 07:46 - Feb 20 with 3101 views | ashtonscoffeecup |
Dropped the family at the circus yesterday, and it got me thinking, the Suffolk Show Ground wouldn't be the worse place to relocate the football stadium (IF it ever came to the point of needing a new ground)
of course the land wouldn't be up for sale, and of course it would take years to develop and get it right, but - its got a train line across the road (new station with trains running from Ipswich), quick access to the A12/14, loads of room (car parks/restaurants/sports bars)
edit - 11 downvotes for an absolutely nothing comment, is this how this place works is it? cool [Post edited 21 Feb 12:41]
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| Suffolk Show ground on 10:09 - Feb 20 with 605 views | ReusersTown |
| Suffolk Show ground on 08:22 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup |
certainly not suggesting moving it, but that site is huge and "could" be developed into something pretty fantastic. |
Depends on what your definition of fantastic is I suppose. I prefer my football grounds to be football grounds. | | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 10:11 - Feb 20 with 609 views | Guthrum |
Swap Portman Road for Pride Park, the Kassam, the Madejski, Stadium MK*?
Terrible, soulless surroundings. Town centre pubs, bars and food outlets starved of trade. The need to use transport to get out there (given how long it took to build Cambridge North, where there was huge need, I very much doubt they would make a new station and stop trains just for 23 events a year).
Not to mention the overall cost would be eyewatering, when the existing site has space (and council cooperation) for further development. Don't see the cost/benefit analysis works out. It would merely move the traffic jam from London Rd to the far end of Felixstowe Rd.
* Tho, in that last case, at least the ground itself is decent. |  |
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| Suffolk Show ground on 10:12 - Feb 20 with 599 views | ashtonscoffeecup |
| Suffolk Show ground on 10:09 - Feb 20 by ReusersTown |
Depends on what your definition of fantastic is I suppose. I prefer my football grounds to be football grounds. |
fantastic in terms of modern day estates i mean.
i love old grounds, and will always favour them.
but if we "had" to make a move away, and it was done correctly, it could be top! | | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 10:25 - Feb 20 with 574 views | ReusersTown |
| Suffolk Show ground on 10:12 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup |
fantastic in terms of modern day estates i mean.
i love old grounds, and will always favour them.
but if we "had" to make a move away, and it was done correctly, it could be top! |
I just find it all odd train of thought currently as we clearly don't have to move away and have clear plans to upgrade PR, which I do even worry about losing the character of the Cobbold TBF! | | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 10:30 - Feb 20 with 566 views | ashtonscoffeecup |
| Suffolk Show ground on 10:25 - Feb 20 by ReusersTown |
I just find it all odd train of thought currently as we clearly don't have to move away and have clear plans to upgrade PR, which I do even worry about losing the character of the Cobbold TBF! |
i mean, when sat in the car for 10mins waiting for the kids to come out of the circus it was either scroll on phone at nothing, or let mind have a little wonder about what the SSG could be if it was developed and our new ground was there.
not really as deep as 4 downvotes, but never mind | | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 10:37 - Feb 20 with 558 views | ReusersTown |
| Suffolk Show ground on 10:30 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup |
i mean, when sat in the car for 10mins waiting for the kids to come out of the circus it was either scroll on phone at nothing, or let mind have a little wonder about what the SSG could be if it was developed and our new ground was there.
not really as deep as 4 downvotes, but never mind |
Like I say, a bit weird. I haven't downvoted you by the way. | | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 10:42 - Feb 20 with 553 views | ashtonscoffeecup |
| Suffolk Show ground on 10:37 - Feb 20 by ReusersTown |
Like I say, a bit weird. I haven't downvoted you by the way. |
weird, really?
so i dont fall in that category again can i just check what you think about in spare time | | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 10:44 - Feb 20 with 554 views | stonojnr |
| Suffolk Show ground on 09:18 - Feb 20 by BloomBlue |
Leave it where it is but flip it round, and build it out into the old training ground behind the West stand and the car park behind the East Stand.
Ok I'm assuming the club who have to ground share for a season.
Plus I'm guessing they would have to knock down the houses behind the North stand.
But its still the perfect location.
As for the show ground build a load of houses on it, we need more housing [Post edited 20 Feb 9:19]
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Lol shows how often you've been up that part of town lately, theyre building 2000 homes at Brightwell lakes, there are plans for 1300 off Foxhall road. They've built 700 homes around Trimley
They've just announced plans for more homes at Ravenswood.
The one thing we dont need to do, not moving the football ground being the 1st one, but the 2nd is build any more homes around that part of Suffolk | | | |
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| Suffolk Show ground on 10:46 - Feb 20 with 562 views | GavTWTD |
If the club want a 365 day venue then it's in the right place. The location is part of its versatility. |  |
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| Suffolk Show ground on 11:04 - Feb 20 with 520 views | Wright1 |
| Suffolk Show ground on 09:55 - Feb 20 by baxterbasics |
I would think somewhere around the Rushmere / Playford sites would be most likely if this were to happen.
I asked a similar question about a year ago and like you, got the downvote treatment!
To be clear I agree it should stay where it is. But the one advantage, should we be looking for a massive rebuild or refurb, is no disruption to the current ground while new one is built. Would rather not have a season and a half of men's team playing at Colchester! |
I think the amount of work required on the infrastructure and the impact that would have on the surrounding areas would make it impossible to put a stadium that size near Playford Road. | | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 11:05 - Feb 20 with 513 views | MattinLondon |
| Suffolk Show ground on 10:30 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup |
i mean, when sat in the car for 10mins waiting for the kids to come out of the circus it was either scroll on phone at nothing, or let mind have a little wonder about what the SSG could be if it was developed and our new ground was there.
not really as deep as 4 downvotes, but never mind |
Nothing wrong with allowing the mind to wander and think those thoughts. During many a dull Mick match, I often did the same.
Once, I thought whether it would be feasible to build a massive cable car ride from one part of Ipswich to the other going over the ground. And whether a Luke Chambers long punt would take out a cable car going over the ground. |  | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 11:14 - Feb 20 with 504 views | ashtonscoffeecup |
| Suffolk Show ground on 11:04 - Feb 20 by Wright1 |
I think the amount of work required on the infrastructure and the impact that would have on the surrounding areas would make it impossible to put a stadium that size near Playford Road. |
the roads couldnt cope, not even sure where you'd be able to build more to help the ones already in place. | | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 11:21 - Feb 20 with 494 views | ReusersTown |
| Suffolk Show ground on 10:42 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup |
weird, really?
so i dont fall in that category again can i just check what you think about in spare time |
I guess that you've been spending your time thinking up something objectionably worse than the current situation, and that is obviously never going to happen given the current situation. | | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 11:26 - Feb 20 with 486 views | Churchman |
| Suffolk Show ground on 08:15 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup |
yeah in agreement, we'd never move away from PR anyway, but worse case - SSG wouldnt ruin football for me (personally)
Alderman Park a decent sized area, that river/land is seriously boggy in the winter months, would take some sorting out |
Thinking back to the thread on the history of the ground and the old maps people put up, I think the whole area around PR was pretty marshy/boggy so I don’t think using Alderman Park would be out of the question.
The issue when NS was rebuilt was the Alderman Rd houses and I guess that’s why the space at the back of NS is so limited. Buy those houses, reroute Sur Alf Ramsey Way (formerly Portman Walk) as an option? Random thoughts.
I think the location of PR is perfect and with the old training pitch and if Portman Road can be shifted, there’s enough room to do what they wish. While SSG would be ok (be great for me) and I can see why you suggested it, is the access good enough? You’d lose the immediate proximity of the town centre and the Railway Station. |  | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 12:34 - Feb 20 with 449 views | ashtonscoffeecup |
| Suffolk Show ground on 11:26 - Feb 20 by Churchman |
Thinking back to the thread on the history of the ground and the old maps people put up, I think the whole area around PR was pretty marshy/boggy so I don’t think using Alderman Park would be out of the question.
The issue when NS was rebuilt was the Alderman Rd houses and I guess that’s why the space at the back of NS is so limited. Buy those houses, reroute Sur Alf Ramsey Way (formerly Portman Walk) as an option? Random thoughts.
I think the location of PR is perfect and with the old training pitch and if Portman Road can be shifted, there’s enough room to do what they wish. While SSG would be ok (be great for me) and I can see why you suggested it, is the access good enough? You’d lose the immediate proximity of the town centre and the Railway Station. |
the thing that initially made me think it was i saw the freight train going by, considered that it was the Ips-Felixstowe line, so the track is in place (mentioned above that it would need some work/new station building to ferry fans in and out. big walk way over felixstowe road etc) however, anyone thats been to brighton would say no to this idea!
roads wise, you have the seven hills A14/12 inter section, and then through nacton up to the A14. Heath road, bixley road would get a little heavy too.
Thankfully nobody will ever ask my advice on this, and we stay at PR, because a 10min day dreaming session isnt up there with what id class as a good business plan! :) | | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 14:07 - Feb 20 with 409 views | soupytwist |
| Suffolk Show ground on 08:29 - Feb 20 by EastTownBlue |
The rail infrastructure would need a major improvement there as it can only support an hourly passenger service amongst all of the freight. Ipswich station is getting busier and busier on match days with supporters travelling in all directions. Whatever they would build as a car park there probably won't be big enough.
On another point, I'm sure that there are a number of businesses in the town centre that are heavily reliant on matchday income. |
Here's an example of what can happen without that matchday income
https://www.theguardian.com/fo |  | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 15:03 - Feb 20 with 386 views | TheBoyBlue |
Wouldn't want us to move from Portman Road and perhaps with the exception of the Sir Bobby Robson Stand we have space to expand and develop with everything on our doorstep.
However, I have often wondered why they've never built a railway station up there to serve the showground and business estate up there and to offer a park and ride into the town. Seems such an obvious thing to do yet I don't think I've ever heard it discussed. | |
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| Suffolk Show ground on 16:00 - Feb 20 with 365 views | jontysnut |
| Suffolk Show ground on 08:30 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup |
that said, i would miss the Suffolk show too much.
a fantastic couple of days celebrating farming, this county and britishness as a whole |
Nearly 50 years ago I worked on the car park trying to get people to park in straight lines in turn. The number of people who simply ignored me and dumped their car anywhere led to me detesting the place ever since. |  | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 16:09 - Feb 20 with 356 views | algy |
Reading this thread the phrase often used by Mainwaring to Jones in Dad's Army came to mind. | |
| Never forget that in April 2021, for ITFC, the Game Changed. |
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| Suffolk Show ground on 19:42 - Feb 20 with 278 views | MattinLondon |
| Suffolk Show ground on 16:09 - Feb 20 by algy |
Reading this thread the phrase often used by Mainwaring to Jones in Dad's Army came to mind. |
Think many posters have taken this thread way too seriously. | | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 09:16 - Feb 21 with 205 views | Mullet |
Plenty of land in Suffolk and better places to put it. Just south of Halesworth would be perfect. |  |
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| Suffolk Show ground on 12:13 - Feb 21 with 159 views | EdwardStone |
| Suffolk Show ground on 09:16 - Feb 21 by Mullet |
Plenty of land in Suffolk and better places to put it. Just south of Halesworth would be perfect. |
Hadleigh
That's just south of Halesworth
Or maybe even Edwardstone.... |  | | |
| Suffolk Show ground on 12:24 - Feb 21 with 150 views | Mullet |
| Suffolk Show ground on 12:13 - Feb 21 by EdwardStone |
Hadleigh
That's just south of Halesworth
Or maybe even Edwardstone.... |
I’ve already fallen out with Guffers this week….. | |
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| Suffolk Show ground on 12:28 - Feb 21 with 146 views | bournemouthblue |
weren't they offered a site in Ravenswood when it was being built? |  |
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| Suffolk Show ground on 12:37 - Feb 21 with 136 views | urbanpenguin |
| Suffolk Show ground on 08:10 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup |
if you had to pick, where would you opt for? |
Portman Road.
There was talk in the distant past about the former airport and the showground, but also they were not that serious and the fans did not want.
It is an absolute boon to the club and town that the ground is so central. The experience of going to eg Derby or Colchester is horrific for travel, matchday experience, after game drinks etc, and for those of us who want to visit the place and not just the game (I had a wonderful day exploring Preston this season) out of town stadia are just garbage.
The club are lucky with the location and also the potential for expansion and good relations with the council. No need to move from a capacity, architectural, planning or financial reason. |  | | |
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