| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: 17:29 - Feb 21 with 8412 views | carlo88 |
Ipswich are the most over coached team I’ve seen.
McKenna reminds me of Arteta - way too bothered with overcomplicating things with the best squad in the league.
I think he might have nailed it. |  | | |  |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 17:30 - Feb 21 with 6236 views | slade1 |
Spot on |  | | |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 17:31 - Feb 21 with 6220 views | JakeITFC |
So the board after the game so far thinks he doesn’t do enough and he also does too much. Right oh. [Post edited 21 Feb 17:34]
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 17:33 - Feb 21 with 6119 views | Scuzzer |
Pity our defensive coach doesn't over coach them. |  |
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 17:56 - Feb 21 with 5824 views | cressi |
His not wrong is he. | | | |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 17:58 - Feb 21 with 5796 views | ashtonscoffeecup |
many of us could have told them that a while back.
how simple our 2nd goal was, drive at the opposition, it scares teams. nobody likes playing against direct pace.
we look for the perfect goal or move far too often, with players that arent really good enough to pull it off | | | |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 18:01 - Feb 21 with 5702 views | keighleyblue |
Arteta, whose team are top of the Premier league.
Pathetic. |  | | |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 18:04 - Feb 21 with 5620 views | Benters |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 17:33 - Feb 21 by Scuzzer |
Pity our defensive coach doesn't over coach them. |
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 18:06 - Feb 21 with 5563 views | TractorWood |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 18:01 - Feb 21 by keighleyblue |
Arteta, whose team are top of the Premier league.
Pathetic. |
Arteta who is clearly going to oversee an incredible collapse that is well underway in a year were Citeh and Liverpool have spent the first half of the seaon self destructing.
McKenna certainly can't escape this situation blame free. We are hilariously ponderous at times. He is also so guilty of blindly sticking with clearly underperforming players for far too long. [Post edited 21 Feb 18:09]
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 18:07 - Feb 21 with 5532 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Certainly some truth in that I think, he deserves some criticism this year with these results/performances on the road. Being in the lower half of the away table is this division, with this squad is not good. We are out battled in crucial moments of games as well.
Today we scored at perfect times for the away side, right on and right after HT. The amount of times his pressers have told us that changes the game and game plans for us yet when it happens to opposition, we don’t capitalize and then fell apart. Such a disappointing afternoon. Absolutly gutted with that. [Post edited 21 Feb 18:11]
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 18:11 - Feb 21 with 5433 views | USA |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 17:31 - Feb 21 by JakeITFC |
So the board after the game so far thinks he doesn’t do enough and he also does too much. Right oh. [Post edited 21 Feb 17:34]
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Different people have different opinions. Exactly what a healthy forum has.
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 18:12 - Feb 21 with 5393 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
I am quite happy for McKenna to fail as badly as Arteta is. |  |
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 18:16 - Feb 21 with 5303 views | JakeITFC |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 18:11 - Feb 21 by USA |
Different people have different opinions. Exactly what a healthy forum has.
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Views that directly contradict each other and being lauded by people don’t really make much sense do they. We lost but people are reaching for conclusions as to why and coming up with any old rubbish. | | | |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 18:16 - Feb 21 with 5306 views | Achane |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 17:56 - Feb 21 by cressi |
His not wrong is he. |
He's not his surely | | | |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 19:55 - Feb 21 with 4826 views | ernie |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 17:31 - Feb 21 by JakeITFC |
So the board after the game so far thinks he doesn’t do enough and he also does too much. Right oh. [Post edited 21 Feb 17:34]
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He doesn’t do enough of in game reading and changes to affect the direction the game is taking.
He does too much on the training ground in wanting players to stick to set formations and their positions.
Not that hard is it. | | | |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 19:58 - Feb 21 with 4789 views | CopfordBlue |
Was this being suggested when we were ripping up league one towards the end of 22/23 and then beating more expensive, experienced teams the following season? It was coaching that took our team from the middle of league one to the premier league. We lost today because of poor defending, nothing to do with being over-coached. | |
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 20:14 - Feb 21 with 4601 views | TheBlueGnu |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 18:11 - Feb 21 by USA |
Different people have different opinions. Exactly what a healthy forum has.
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this ain't a healthy forum, it's a pathetic forum. | |
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 20:16 - Feb 21 with 4589 views | farkenhell |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 19:55 - Feb 21 by ernie |
He doesn’t do enough of in game reading and changes to affect the direction the game is taking.
He does too much on the training ground in wanting players to stick to set formations and their positions.
Not that hard is it. |
That was not the problem today. Individual mistakes led to all of their goals. No amount of tactical changes (or alleged over-coaching) can compensate for that. | | | |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 20:54 - Feb 21 with 4369 views | RetroBlue |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 18:07 - Feb 21 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Certainly some truth in that I think, he deserves some criticism this year with these results/performances on the road. Being in the lower half of the away table is this division, with this squad is not good. We are out battled in crucial moments of games as well.
Today we scored at perfect times for the away side, right on and right after HT. The amount of times his pressers have told us that changes the game and game plans for us yet when it happens to opposition, we don’t capitalize and then fell apart. Such a disappointing afternoon. Absolutly gutted with that. [Post edited 21 Feb 18:11]
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McKenna's been the same since he's been at the club. That's the problem, he doesn't adapt and every opponent manager knows exactly what he's going to do.
And where has the energy in the side gone? |  |
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 20:57 - Feb 21 with 4329 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 20:54 - Feb 21 by RetroBlue |
McKenna's been the same since he's been at the club. That's the problem, he doesn't adapt and every opponent manager knows exactly what he's going to do.
And where has the energy in the side gone? |
He’s too pragmatic for my liking, if anything goes off script we are in trouble, hence our record of not coming from behind to win a single game, I mean at this level! | |
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 21:04 - Feb 21 with 4249 views | itfc_statman |
To be fair its a slight change in the championship styles.
It has become a league where being direct and having pace that runs either flank is causing teams who are used to seeing the play in front of them struggle.
For the money weve spent we genuinely look half as good as the Leeds side from last season. That's probably the bigger concern.
I dont actually think McKenna is the problem. I think our expectations are rightly based on the money spent on the squad but I think weve hideously overspent on most. | | | |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 21:07 - Feb 21 with 4209 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 21:04 - Feb 21 by itfc_statman |
To be fair its a slight change in the championship styles.
It has become a league where being direct and having pace that runs either flank is causing teams who are used to seeing the play in front of them struggle.
For the money weve spent we genuinely look half as good as the Leeds side from last season. That's probably the bigger concern.
I dont actually think McKenna is the problem. I think our expectations are rightly based on the money spent on the squad but I think weve hideously overspent on most. |
It’s collective, he obviously signs off players in the door. | |
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 08:44 - Feb 22 with 3567 views | mrshallisfit |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 17:31 - Feb 21 by JakeITFC |
So the board after the game so far thinks he doesn’t do enough and he also does too much. Right oh. [Post edited 21 Feb 17:34]
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Christ that is a pretty thick post. McK overcoaches for his one plan and then cant or wont adapt and change when a game requires it. The players are so wired into that tgat they cant adapt when needed. Hence the lack of comeback wins when we do go behind. Weirdly, I thought we had cracked for the first time this season it at 3-2. For us to then implode due to poor defending and poor leadership on the pitch. Sorry but I expect much more from a manager with the resources at his reach and the salary he is on. [Post edited 22 Feb 8:44]
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 08:57 - Feb 22 with 3451 views | RIPbobby |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 17:58 - Feb 21 by ashtonscoffeecup |
many of us could have told them that a while back.
how simple our 2nd goal was, drive at the opposition, it scares teams. nobody likes playing against direct pace.
we look for the perfect goal or move far too often, with players that arent really good enough to pull it off |
I've said that quite a lot. I noticed it last season in the prem. It seems easier to attack teams through the middle as they are so well setup to protect the flanks. With Mehmeti and Neil onboard we can now just run through the middle. Worked well yesterday and has done a few times this season. But going back to op point maybe we do make it too hard. Pro footballers are pro because they have quick natural reactions and make split second decisions well. Maybe we take that away from them too much? |  | | |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 09:08 - Feb 22 with 3390 views | LeoMuff |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 08:44 - Feb 22 by mrshallisfit |
Christ that is a pretty thick post. McK overcoaches for his one plan and then cant or wont adapt and change when a game requires it. The players are so wired into that tgat they cant adapt when needed. Hence the lack of comeback wins when we do go behind. Weirdly, I thought we had cracked for the first time this season it at 3-2. For us to then implode due to poor defending and poor leadership on the pitch. Sorry but I expect much more from a manager with the resources at his reach and the salary he is on. [Post edited 22 Feb 8:44]
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All managers have had bad seasons Pep, Mourinho, Robson I would like us to be more flexible but are you saying fans in a forum know more that premier league analysts, as Kmac is constantly linked with those jobs. |  |
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| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 09:09 - Feb 22 with 3377 views | JakeITFC |
| Just seen this thread on the Wrexham forum: on 08:44 - Feb 22 by mrshallisfit |
Christ that is a pretty thick post. McK overcoaches for his one plan and then cant or wont adapt and change when a game requires it. The players are so wired into that tgat they cant adapt when needed. Hence the lack of comeback wins when we do go behind. Weirdly, I thought we had cracked for the first time this season it at 3-2. For us to then implode due to poor defending and poor leadership on the pitch. Sorry but I expect much more from a manager with the resources at his reach and the salary he is on. [Post edited 22 Feb 8:44]
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Do you think that Leif is playing the same role in every game this season?
Does Clarke now playing as an inside 10 look like how Philogene plays that role when he’s fit?
Do you think that Mehmeti and Burns creating an overload on the right is the same as how we look when Nunez and Egeli play in those roles?
How about Akpom coming on as a second forward and Nunez going in as our deep midfielder yesterday?
Those are tactical changes made either from the start or during the game yesterday. It is fair to say they didn’t all works as planned (although some of them did as we came from behind twice and took the lead) but to say he doesn’t change from a rigid format or make changes in game is either a) the opinion of somebody who doesn’t know what they are watching or b) a lie. I’d argue it was mistakes from the goalkeeper and defence that cost us. | | | |
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