| Ta ra Kier 06:37 - Feb 27 with 2235 views | thebooks |
And good riddance.
Nice of Labour to split the far-right vote and let the Greens in.
If you want Reform out, vote Green. |  | | |  |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:12 - Feb 27 with 540 views | leitrimblue |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:11 - Feb 27 by BornDeleuze |
They stood on an anti-Zionist platform in a ward that is 33% Muslim. They used Gaza as a focus in most of their literature, esepcially the stuff produced only in Urdu.
I know the far left don’t like to be accused of bias, but it’s pretty clear what went on here. |
You think they were fishing for the anti genocide vote? |  | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:18 - Feb 27 with 512 views | Guthrum |
| Ta ra Kier on 07:10 - Feb 27 by vapour_trail |
Nobody seems interested that the tories got less than two per cent of the vote.
That’s not great. |
They got less than 8% in the 2024 General Election, when it was a newly-constituted constituency.
In two of the predecessor constituencies from which it was formed the Conservatives were getting around 10% up to 2019, while in the third, covering Denton, it had been 19% - 34%, tho still distant second to Labour. |  |
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| Ta ra Kier on 10:25 - Feb 27 with 473 views | bazza |
Can’t we just have a party that tackles issues, approaches everyone’s concerns respectfully and sensibly, and stop all the horse s@&t point scoring, politics is more about a party slandering another party, rather than actually tackling issues and talking about what they can do to sort this shambles of a country out, that labour women on the tv this morning just constantly banged on about stopping reform.. maybe if she had talked about what her party stands for, and how they will tackle the problems this country faces, she might have won. |  | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:25 - Feb 27 with 471 views | Dubtractor |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:11 - Feb 27 by BornDeleuze |
They stood on an anti-Zionist platform in a ward that is 33% Muslim. They used Gaza as a focus in most of their literature, esepcially the stuff produced only in Urdu.
I know the far left don’t like to be accused of bias, but it’s pretty clear what went on here. |
Reform stood on a divisive anti foreigner platform in a ward that is particularly diverse.
I know the far right don't like to be accused of bias, but it's pretty clear what went on here. |  |
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| Ta ra Kier on 10:28 - Feb 27 with 456 views | BornDeleuze |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:12 - Feb 27 by leitrimblue |
You think they were fishing for the anti genocide vote? |
No, they’re weren’t against the genocide of Israelis. |  | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:31 - Feb 27 with 433 views | leitrimblue |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:28 - Feb 27 by BornDeleuze |
No, they’re weren’t against the genocide of Israelis. |
Yer gonna have to attempt to explain yerself a tad better mr Deleuze, come on you can do it.
Lets start with the basics, you understand that Isreal was the country that committed genocide? | | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:35 - Feb 27 with 420 views | CoachRob |
| Ta ra Kier on 09:29 - Feb 27 by BornDeleuze |
This result won’t be replicated across the country. The Greens knew what they were doing playing the anti-Israel card in this ward.
I do think you should be careful what you wish for. The Greens would significantly weaken the country given the state of Russia and Europe ATM. Also, like Reform, they’re economically illiterate. |
Can you explain what you mean by The Greens being "economically illiterate"?
Can you point me in the direction of what economic literacy looks like? |  | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:36 - Feb 27 with 402 views | lowhouseblue |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:35 - Feb 27 by CoachRob |
Can you explain what you mean by The Greens being "economically illiterate"?
Can you point me in the direction of what economic literacy looks like? |
their sums don't add up. their promises exceed any credible funding proposals. they would be like liz truss on speed. it's not difficult. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Ta ra Kier on 10:43 - Feb 27 with 374 views | BornDeleuze |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:31 - Feb 27 by leitrimblue |
Yer gonna have to attempt to explain yerself a tad better mr Deleuze, come on you can do it.
Lets start with the basics, you understand that Isreal was the country that committed genocide? |
You understand that the very existence of Palestine, as it is now called, is predicated on the complete wiping out of Israel and all Jews? You really need to be ignorant of history if you don’t udnerstand how this situation came about following the expulsion of Arabs from Jordan, the closing of the border with Egypt. How Iran has spent millions on the building of the underground city in Gaza with the sole aim of attacking Israel. The genocide is by Hamas on Jews and on its own people. Israel did its best to fight a war in a terrible situation but I can’t blame it for wanting to eradicate Hamas.
If you’re OK supporting Hamas, so be it. You’re a useful idiot. | | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:48 - Feb 27 with 360 views | CoachRob |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:36 - Feb 27 by lowhouseblue |
their sums don't add up. their promises exceed any credible funding proposals. they would be like liz truss on speed. it's not difficult. |
Are they running out of electrons in economics again?
Economists had a go at physics and made a total mess of it. Their stuff on climate change is idiotic. The idea we have to listen to Larry Summers' version of how an economy works anymore are long gone, much like his career. Game over for the mainstream economists and the minions who support their stupidity. | | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:52 - Feb 27 with 347 views | leitrimblue |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:43 - Feb 27 by BornDeleuze |
You understand that the very existence of Palestine, as it is now called, is predicated on the complete wiping out of Israel and all Jews? You really need to be ignorant of history if you don’t udnerstand how this situation came about following the expulsion of Arabs from Jordan, the closing of the border with Egypt. How Iran has spent millions on the building of the underground city in Gaza with the sole aim of attacking Israel. The genocide is by Hamas on Jews and on its own people. Israel did its best to fight a war in a terrible situation but I can’t blame it for wanting to eradicate Hamas.
If you’re OK supporting Hamas, so be it. You’re a useful idiot. |
Obviously I know nothing of history and am very thankful for your well researched historical observations  .
You wouldn't by any chance have any references for some of your statements would you?
Perhaps where you got the information that Palastine is predicated on the complete wiping out of Isreal and all Jews?
Perhaps where and when Hamas committed Genocide on Jews?
So you think not being a big fan of Genocide makes you pro Hamas?
Perhaps you could share your entertaining views on other historical subjects, your obviously a natural | | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:08 - Feb 27 with 282 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:25 - Feb 27 by bazza |
Can’t we just have a party that tackles issues, approaches everyone’s concerns respectfully and sensibly, and stop all the horse s@&t point scoring, politics is more about a party slandering another party, rather than actually tackling issues and talking about what they can do to sort this shambles of a country out, that labour women on the tv this morning just constantly banged on about stopping reform.. maybe if she had talked about what her party stands for, and how they will tackle the problems this country faces, she might have won. |
No, we can’t. Unfortunately. |  |
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| Ta ra Kier on 11:11 - Feb 27 with 271 views | lowhouseblue |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:48 - Feb 27 by CoachRob |
Are they running out of electrons in economics again?
Economists had a go at physics and made a total mess of it. Their stuff on climate change is idiotic. The idea we have to listen to Larry Summers' version of how an economy works anymore are long gone, much like his career. Game over for the mainstream economists and the minions who support their stupidity. |
yes i know you don't like economics. that's best left to your therapist and is not something i can help you with. but do you have anything constructive to say? the article you linked a few weeks back was nonsense on an astonishing scale and if that's really what you believe then flat earthers make you look considered. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Ta ra Kier on 11:12 - Feb 27 with 264 views | BornDeleuze |
| Ta ra Kier on 10:52 - Feb 27 by leitrimblue |
Obviously I know nothing of history and am very thankful for your well researched historical observations .
You wouldn't by any chance have any references for some of your statements would you?
Perhaps where you got the information that Palastine is predicated on the complete wiping out of Isreal and all Jews?
Perhaps where and when Hamas committed Genocide on Jews?
So you think not being a big fan of Genocide makes you pro Hamas?
Perhaps you could share your entertaining views on other historical subjects, your obviously a natural |
From the Hamas foundational document:
'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)
Read it all yourself. It’s pretty blatant.
https://irp.fas.org/world/para
The history of Israel and the various wars isn’t hard to research. I mean even in this document they explicitly state that any peace processes are anti-Islamic. Hence why they condemn Egypyt. You can read about Jordan and its struggles with the PLO on Wikipedia if you want something reasonably unbiased.
I do think Westerners sympathetic to Hamas are being played by the current Iranian regime, who are currently killing their own people. I’m happy to stand with the Iranian people and Israel to protect democracy and freedom. | | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:22 - Feb 27 with 207 views | CoachRob |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:11 - Feb 27 by lowhouseblue |
yes i know you don't like economics. that's best left to your therapist and is not something i can help you with. but do you have anything constructive to say? the article you linked a few weeks back was nonsense on an astonishing scale and if that's really what you believe then flat earthers make you look considered. |
Sounds like you're taking an absolutist position and throwing around personal slurs which is completely on point when you're getting owned on a topic.
Just a tip; if you're going to debate something you might want to learn about it first and we know you know nothing about Keynesian, post-Keynesian or MMT. I learnt the Neoclassical stuff, built out the three-equation New Keynesian model, so I know when you claimed that Labour's reforms are lagging that you are talking complete toss. You're not even a qualified economist so how you could even know how these models operate is beyond me. | | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:24 - Feb 27 with 196 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:11 - Feb 27 by lowhouseblue |
yes i know you don't like economics. that's best left to your therapist and is not something i can help you with. but do you have anything constructive to say? the article you linked a few weeks back was nonsense on an astonishing scale and if that's really what you believe then flat earthers make you look considered. |
Another one that doesn’t understand the difference between an academic discipline and government policy.
It’s almost as if economists don’t run the country, but do understand how it functions. Bizarre take, I look forward to their next meaningless chatGPT word salad. [Post edited 27 Feb 11:37]
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| Ta ra Kier on 11:25 - Feb 27 with 196 views | jas0999 |
| Ta ra Kier on 07:58 - Feb 27 by DJR |
I think it was about their 40th safest seat but that doesn't undermine what you say.
And to reiterate the point you make, it just goes to prove (as I have long thought) that the Labour Together/Morgan McSweeney strategy was misconceived from the start. Indeed, what party sets out to alienate people who would normally vote for it?
But they are in a bind because there is no obvious replacement to Starmer. [Post edited 27 Feb 7:59]
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6th safest seat according to news outlets … | | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:27 - Feb 27 with 188 views | leitrimblue |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:12 - Feb 27 by BornDeleuze |
From the Hamas foundational document:
'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)
Read it all yourself. It’s pretty blatant.
https://irp.fas.org/world/para
The history of Israel and the various wars isn’t hard to research. I mean even in this document they explicitly state that any peace processes are anti-Islamic. Hence why they condemn Egypyt. You can read about Jordan and its struggles with the PLO on Wikipedia if you want something reasonably unbiased.
I do think Westerners sympathetic to Hamas are being played by the current Iranian regime, who are currently killing their own people. I’m happy to stand with the Iranian people and Israel to protect democracy and freedom. |
That's the Hamas foundation document. Do you have evidence that 'the existence of Palastine as it is now called is predicated on the complete wiping out of Isreal and Jews'?
Do you think it's possible that there may be a historical Jewish document that suggests the divine right of jews to the lands in the middle east and what they should do to there enemies?
Has your so clued up on Isreali history, how do you find Isreali terrorist acts against the UK like the Sargents affair for example sit with you?
Your happy to stand with the Iranian people and Isreal to protect democracy and freedom? What the hell does that mean?  | | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:33 - Feb 27 with 157 views | OldFart71 |
Nobody can in all honesty say that this result was not expected. We will probably hear the usual drivel by the party in power that this was expected and that they haven't had time to put all the wrongs the Tories did right.
Whilst no government would be able to change an oil tanker around in half a mile. This government has succeeded in putting it even further on the rocks.
They will claim that they have put money in people's pockets. No they haven't.
They will claim they have cut interest rates 5 times. No they haven't, that is carried out by the BoE,
They haven't stopped illegal immigration which they said they would and haven't even slowed it down.
They claim the NHS is in a better position. No it isn't. I have talked to professionals and they all say it's worse than before and that Streeting is useless.
Add to that all the controversy and U turns then what do they expect ? | | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:33 - Feb 27 with 157 views | bartyg |
| Ta ra Kier on 06:44 - Feb 27 by Dubtractor |
Starmer has choice.
Either tack back towards the left and reclaim some of their core vote, or face obliteration. |
Labour moving back to the left now splits the vote, I think they should do the right thing and step down to stop the far right. |  | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:38 - Feb 27 with 141 views | BornDeleuze |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:27 - Feb 27 by leitrimblue |
That's the Hamas foundation document. Do you have evidence that 'the existence of Palastine as it is now called is predicated on the complete wiping out of Isreal and Jews'?
Do you think it's possible that there may be a historical Jewish document that suggests the divine right of jews to the lands in the middle east and what they should do to there enemies?
Has your so clued up on Isreali history, how do you find Isreali terrorist acts against the UK like the Sargents affair for example sit with you?
Your happy to stand with the Iranian people and Isreal to protect democracy and freedom? What the hell does that mean? |
Well, who controls Palestine as it is now if not Hamas? I’m not sure what point you’re trying to prove here. So you’re happy to support Hamas?
I’m against terrorist acts. I’m not sure what you’re trying to prove with the Seargants affair. Seems a bit of historical whataboutery.
I support the Iranian people in theory effort to overthrow the current Islamic regime and their financing of Hamas and terrorism around the world. Are you?
Israel is a modern state and to question its right to exist seems insane as it goes against all international laws we live by. Should we start to question the rights of other countries to exist? | | | |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:39 - Feb 27 with 141 views | Herbivore |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:11 - Feb 27 by lowhouseblue |
yes i know you don't like economics. that's best left to your therapist and is not something i can help you with. but do you have anything constructive to say? the article you linked a few weeks back was nonsense on an astonishing scale and if that's really what you believe then flat earthers make you look considered. |
Glad to see you practicing what you preach and engaging in grown up debate with those who hold different views to you. Implying someone is mentally unwell is clearly the first step to engaging constructively on issues where there is legitimate disagreement. |  |
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| Ta ra Kier on 11:41 - Feb 27 with 132 views | lowhouseblue |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:22 - Feb 27 by CoachRob |
Sounds like you're taking an absolutist position and throwing around personal slurs which is completely on point when you're getting owned on a topic.
Just a tip; if you're going to debate something you might want to learn about it first and we know you know nothing about Keynesian, post-Keynesian or MMT. I learnt the Neoclassical stuff, built out the three-equation New Keynesian model, so I know when you claimed that Labour's reforms are lagging that you are talking complete toss. You're not even a qualified economist so how you could even know how these models operate is beyond me. |
i respond to you in the style you adopt with me.
you talk utter drivel about economics. you've only ever read stuff which supports your pre-existing beliefs and you've read it with zero critical skills. you throw about various grand labels because you think that makes you sound knowledgeable and to avoid the sort of detail that will get youripped apart. 'keynesian', 'post-keynesian', 'mmt', and ' new keynesian' are the sorts of waffle that undergrad bluffers use when they haven't done the reading and can't answer the question set.
the article you linked last week presented the utterly unoriginal and un-insightful concepts of accommodating monetary policy and a horizontal lm curve. wow. what you now need to do is read up on why over the last 50 years such an approach has been shown to be a disaster.
i have no intention of posting my qualifications on here, but you are wrong. | |
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| Ta ra Kier on 11:45 - Feb 27 with 106 views | NthQldITFC |
I think Starmer is a decent man, but he's going down the misinformation route now as he desperately tries to hold the middle ground:
https://www.theguardian.com/po
He also said Labour was up against “Reform on the right, with their politics of hatred and division, the Greens on the left, with their politics of getting out of Nato in the middle of the conflict with Ukraine, of legalising all drugs, including heroin and crack cocaine to give to adults”.
https://greenparty.org.uk/abou
The Green Party recognises that NATO has an important role in ensuring the ability of its member states to respond to threats to their security. We would work within NATO to achieve:
* A greater focus on global peacebuilding.
* A commitment to a ‘No First Use’ of nuclear weapons. |  |
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| Ta ra Kier on 11:46 - Feb 27 with 93 views | NthQldITFC |
| Ta ra Kier on 11:41 - Feb 27 by lowhouseblue |
i respond to you in the style you adopt with me.
you talk utter drivel about economics. you've only ever read stuff which supports your pre-existing beliefs and you've read it with zero critical skills. you throw about various grand labels because you think that makes you sound knowledgeable and to avoid the sort of detail that will get youripped apart. 'keynesian', 'post-keynesian', 'mmt', and ' new keynesian' are the sorts of waffle that undergrad bluffers use when they haven't done the reading and can't answer the question set.
the article you linked last week presented the utterly unoriginal and un-insightful concepts of accommodating monetary policy and a horizontal lm curve. wow. what you now need to do is read up on why over the last 50 years such an approach has been shown to be a disaster.
i have no intention of posting my qualifications on here, but you are wrong. |
Ah, g'worn, post your qualifications. | |
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