| With VAR … 22:56 - Mar 10 with 1236 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
… we win that game comfortably.
Let that sink in for a moment. VAR was conceived for games like this, like it or loath it. |  | | |  |
| With VAR … on 22:58 - Mar 10 with 1023 views | TheMoralMajority |
I would, without a moments hesitation, 100% take those 2 shocking last minute decisions over VAR every single day of the week. |  |
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| With VAR … on 22:58 - Mar 10 with 1021 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Very happy to live without VAR. |  |
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| With VAR … on 22:58 - Mar 10 with 993 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| With VAR … on 22:58 - Mar 10 by TheMoralMajority |
I would, without a moments hesitation, 100% take those 2 shocking last minute decisions over VAR every single day of the week. |
OP forgets all the mistakes that the players and manager made.
Some people just love to blame the ref. | |
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| With VAR … on 23:00 - Mar 10 with 956 views | MrPotatoHead |
VAR wouldn’t overturn that penalty decision. |  | | |
| With VAR … on 23:00 - Mar 10 with 937 views | FrimleyBlue |
But then would kipre have got away with kicking out at their player? Looked soft but var does throw up those sort of things. And we may have had 10 men in the first half.
And also how many pens against would we have had against furlong. |  |
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| With VAR … on 23:02 - Mar 10 with 930 views | waveneyblue |
| With VAR … on 23:00 - Mar 10 by FrimleyBlue |
But then would kipre have got away with kicking out at their player? Looked soft but var does throw up those sort of things. And we may have had 10 men in the first half.
And also how many pens against would we have had against furlong. |
Unlike you to look at the negative.
Have you changed? |  | | |
| With VAR … on 23:03 - Mar 10 with 908 views | darkhorse28 |
I’m not sure VAR is the issue.
We didn’t deserve to win. Against a team so out of form, with 12 players out, and our £200 million side played how they always do. In moments, with quality at times. And for long periods looking like they don’t care enough and have never met each other.
And our striker is good outside the box. But very poor in it. If he ever gets in the box that is.
Not sure over the 70 odd games we’ve been like this now. VAR is or isn’t the biggest issue!
Le that sink in.., it’s more important than what refs do or don’t do. We look badly coached for long periods. In most games. That really isn’t good enough (he’s paid more than most makers managing in champions league quarter finals tonight! .., that really needs to sink in!!! | | | |
| With VAR … on 23:07 - Mar 10 with 873 views | bsw72 |
VAR would not have overturned the penalty tonight but potentially would have reviewed the Azom “foul” in the build up for the first Stoke goal weirdly.
It would have awarded the penalty on Saturday.
Either way I don’t want VAR in its current format, it ruins the spontaneity of the game. |  | | |
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| With VAR … on 23:11 - Mar 10 with 816 views | FrimleyBlue |
| With VAR … on 23:02 - Mar 10 by waveneyblue |
Unlike you to look at the negative.
Have you changed? |
Hows that negative its just factual on how var may have had the opposite effect to what the op says.
Its great if it goes fot you. But var could easily go against you. | |
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| With VAR … on 23:12 - Mar 10 with 814 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| With VAR … on 23:03 - Mar 10 by darkhorse28 |
I’m not sure VAR is the issue.
We didn’t deserve to win. Against a team so out of form, with 12 players out, and our £200 million side played how they always do. In moments, with quality at times. And for long periods looking like they don’t care enough and have never met each other.
And our striker is good outside the box. But very poor in it. If he ever gets in the box that is.
Not sure over the 70 odd games we’ve been like this now. VAR is or isn’t the biggest issue!
Le that sink in.., it’s more important than what refs do or don’t do. We look badly coached for long periods. In most games. That really isn’t good enough (he’s paid more than most makers managing in champions league quarter finals tonight! .., that really needs to sink in!!! |
Yep, if we dont make the autos, its not because of the refs. | |
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| With VAR … on 23:13 - Mar 10 with 809 views | Swansea_Blue |
| With VAR … on 23:03 - Mar 10 by darkhorse28 |
I’m not sure VAR is the issue.
We didn’t deserve to win. Against a team so out of form, with 12 players out, and our £200 million side played how they always do. In moments, with quality at times. And for long periods looking like they don’t care enough and have never met each other.
And our striker is good outside the box. But very poor in it. If he ever gets in the box that is.
Not sure over the 70 odd games we’ve been like this now. VAR is or isn’t the biggest issue!
Le that sink in.., it’s more important than what refs do or don’t do. We look badly coached for long periods. In most games. That really isn’t good enough (he’s paid more than most makers managing in champions league quarter finals tonight! .., that really needs to sink in!!! |
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| With VAR … on 23:18 - Mar 10 with 779 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
The point still stands, whether you like it or loath it, VAR would have likely given the deserved result tonight. It may have its faults, but with improvements VAR could have a positive impact on the game, as it has in cricket and rugby.
It does raise the question though about why so many people are incensed about those decisions tonight. If you accept it’s part of the game, then accept the official's mistake with grace. Otherwise the alternative is acceptance that some form of review process is necessary. People can’t have it both ways. | | | |
| With VAR … on 23:21 - Mar 10 with 759 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| With VAR … on 22:58 - Mar 10 by Marshalls_Mullet |
OP forgets all the mistakes that the players and manager made.
Some people just love to blame the ref. |
I did not dismiss the mistakes made tonight, did I? Sure that happened. But without the first goal standing, the outcome may well have been very different. That is the point. Decisions like that turn games. | | | |
| With VAR … on 23:24 - Mar 10 with 741 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| With VAR … on 23:11 - Mar 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Hows that negative its just factual on how var may have had the opposite effect to what the op says.
Its great if it goes fot you. But var could easily go against you. |
There is zero chance that Kipre would have been sent off? Have you rewatched it? It was 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, and very minor from both of them. | | | |
| With VAR … on 23:27 - Mar 10 with 682 views | FrimleyBlue |
| With VAR … on 23:24 - Mar 10 by SuffolkPunchFC |
There is zero chance that Kipre would have been sent off? Have you rewatched it? It was 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, and very minor from both of them. |
No i havent watched it back. But I wasnt being literal. Just using it as a momentary example.
Think back to the morsy days when var may have had him in trouble a fair bit with some of his antics.
I hate var as it looks into everything. And sometimes goes against you when you then wish it never existed. | |
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| With VAR … on 23:28 - Mar 10 with 693 views | bsw72 |
| With VAR … on 23:18 - Mar 10 by SuffolkPunchFC |
The point still stands, whether you like it or loath it, VAR would have likely given the deserved result tonight. It may have its faults, but with improvements VAR could have a positive impact on the game, as it has in cricket and rugby.
It does raise the question though about why so many people are incensed about those decisions tonight. If you accept it’s part of the game, then accept the official's mistake with grace. Otherwise the alternative is acceptance that some form of review process is necessary. People can’t have it both ways. |
None of the points you make are mutually exclusive.
Agree that with improvement a review system could improve the game, but that’s not what VAR gives us currently.
Until then I reserve the right to get incensed by poor refereeing decisions while accepting it’s part of the game. | | | |
| With VAR … on 23:34 - Mar 10 with 662 views | LankHenners |
| With VAR … on 23:18 - Mar 10 by SuffolkPunchFC |
The point still stands, whether you like it or loath it, VAR would have likely given the deserved result tonight. It may have its faults, but with improvements VAR could have a positive impact on the game, as it has in cricket and rugby.
It does raise the question though about why so many people are incensed about those decisions tonight. If you accept it’s part of the game, then accept the official's mistake with grace. Otherwise the alternative is acceptance that some form of review process is necessary. People can’t have it both ways. |
It's not really a point though is it because we don't have VAR in this league so what does it matter whether it would have helped us or not?
If you have to genuinely question why people get annoyed at refereeing decisions, especially result-altering ones in the last minute of the game, then you're either being very dim or deliberately obtuse. |  |
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| With VAR … on 23:38 - Mar 10 with 626 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| With VAR … on 23:27 - Mar 10 by FrimleyBlue |
No i havent watched it back. But I wasnt being literal. Just using it as a momentary example.
Think back to the morsy days when var may have had him in trouble a fair bit with some of his antics.
I hate var as it looks into everything. And sometimes goes against you when you then wish it never existed. |
I don’t disagree with your general point about previous instances where ‘we’ve got away with one’ (probably). But my point was entirely about tonight.
To your point, you’d need to consider every possibly VAR intervention for this season, and see if we come out of it on the positive or negative side. Right now the reality is that with VAR over the last 2 games, we’d probably be 4 points to the good, and sitting nicely in 2nd place. | | | |
| With VAR … on 23:43 - Mar 10 with 612 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| With VAR … on 23:34 - Mar 10 by LankHenners |
It's not really a point though is it because we don't have VAR in this league so what does it matter whether it would have helped us or not?
If you have to genuinely question why people get annoyed at refereeing decisions, especially result-altering ones in the last minute of the game, then you're either being very dim or deliberately obtuse. |
There’s a need to be insulting is there? (I guess it’s par for the course with some on this forum).
Maybe explain what is wrong with the original observation that IF there was VAR in the championship, it would have made a material difference. If you don’t see that, then maybe your last sentence lies closer to home. | | | |
| With VAR … on 23:45 - Mar 10 with 603 views | LankHenners |
| With VAR … on 23:43 - Mar 10 by SuffolkPunchFC |
There’s a need to be insulting is there? (I guess it’s par for the course with some on this forum).
Maybe explain what is wrong with the original observation that IF there was VAR in the championship, it would have made a material difference. If you don’t see that, then maybe your last sentence lies closer to home. |
It's not wrong it's just a pointless observation to make. | |
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| With VAR … on 23:47 - Mar 10 with 567 views | FrimleyBlue |
| With VAR … on 23:38 - Mar 10 by SuffolkPunchFC |
I don’t disagree with your general point about previous instances where ‘we’ve got away with one’ (probably). But my point was entirely about tonight.
To your point, you’d need to consider every possibly VAR intervention for this season, and see if we come out of it on the positive or negative side. Right now the reality is that with VAR over the last 2 games, we’d probably be 4 points to the good, and sitting nicely in 2nd place. |
I get that
But the reality is weve had our fairshare of luck so you are right in the positive amd negative sense.. but sure we could be sitting 4 points better off
But go back and give pens when furlong fouled etc and we maybe would have been 4 points or more worse off before the last two games.
I hate var with a passion.
I like the old days. Errors are made. And discussed.
But live by the old tale. Dont give refs the opportunity to make mistakes. | |
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| With VAR … on 23:49 - Mar 10 with 567 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| With VAR … on 23:45 - Mar 10 by LankHenners |
It's not wrong it's just a pointless observation to make. |
Why pointless? It is surely relevant to any debate about the pros and cons of some form of review system? Or do you not think that is a subject for discussion on a football forum? | | | |
| With VAR … on 23:55 - Mar 10 with 525 views | Sarge |
I’m not sure VAR would overturn that. It was a dive, but VAR only overturns dives when there’s nobody else remotely nearby.
It would however have overturned the decision against Leicester. Either way, without two atrocious refereeing decisions we’d be 4 critical points better off. (Anybody wishing to point out how we shouldn’t be reliant on referees don’t bother, you can’t legislate for such crap decisions) | | | |
| With VAR … on 23:55 - Mar 10 with 520 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| With VAR … on 23:47 - Mar 10 by FrimleyBlue |
I get that
But the reality is weve had our fairshare of luck so you are right in the positive amd negative sense.. but sure we could be sitting 4 points better off
But go back and give pens when furlong fouled etc and we maybe would have been 4 points or more worse off before the last two games.
I hate var with a passion.
I like the old days. Errors are made. And discussed.
But live by the old tale. Dont give refs the opportunity to make mistakes. |
Well, that’s where we differ then 
My main sports are cricket & rugby, have played at a high level in my youth (long ago), and VAR has much improved the sports IMO. I feel that a ‘fit for purpose’ review system in football would be positive, but to be clear that not what we have right now. | | | |
| With VAR … on 00:06 - Mar 11 with 455 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| With VAR … on 23:55 - Mar 10 by Sarge |
I’m not sure VAR would overturn that. It was a dive, but VAR only overturns dives when there’s nobody else remotely nearby.
It would however have overturned the decision against Leicester. Either way, without two atrocious refereeing decisions we’d be 4 critical points better off. (Anybody wishing to point out how we shouldn’t be reliant on referees don’t bother, you can’t legislate for such crap decisions) |
Have to agree! He got the wrong side and there was a motion of a slight pull. I don’t think they do to be honest. Even though it looked ridiculously soft to me. He should never not be goal side in the 96th minute FFS! [Post edited 11 Mar 0:08]
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