| Just on the train to Felixstowe 09:01 - Mar 17 with 2382 views | bluelagos |
Since when did they go all posh? About 10 people on it yet when I get the slow train to London it's always a sh1tty old carriage.
Proper nice it is.
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| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 09:26 - Mar 17 with 1949 views | WeWereZombies |
Just be careful when you get the train back and don't end up standing outside a perfume shop whilst you watch the train depart from the station that's been moved half a mile away... |  |
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| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 09:30 - Mar 17 with 1925 views | woodbridge_blue |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 09:26 - Mar 17 by WeWereZombies |
Just be careful when you get the train back and don't end up standing outside a perfume shop whilst you watch the train depart from the station that's been moved half a mile away... |
Talking of Felixstowe station, anyone remember the bar that used to be there, I think it was called The Witching Hour?
Very strange place with a bunch of unusual characters. Had a line drawn on the floor to separate the lounge from the public bar! |  | | |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 09:32 - Mar 17 with 1909 views | Steve_M |
Ah, I thought you meant Felixstowe had gone posh for a minute and was quite confused.... |  |
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| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 10:04 - Mar 17 with 1742 views | DJR |
It's on the end of his foot. [Post edited 17 Mar 10:05]
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| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 10:09 - Mar 17 with 1717 views | WeWereZombies |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 10:04 - Mar 17 by DJR |
It's on the end of his foot. [Post edited 17 Mar 10:05]
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Ah, at first didn't get the end of the line... | |
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| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 10:57 - Mar 17 with 1546 views | The_Major |
Always an entertaining fact that you need head west from Ipswich Station to get to Felixstowe
If you need to head west to get to Felixstowe normally, you need a boat. |  | | |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 11:07 - Mar 17 with 1474 views | Benters |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 10:57 - Mar 17 by The_Major |
Always an entertaining fact that you need head west from Ipswich Station to get to Felixstowe
If you need to head west to get to Felixstowe normally, you need a boat. |
Interesting. |  |
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| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 11:11 - Mar 17 with 1467 views | Leaky |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 09:30 - Mar 17 by woodbridge_blue |
Talking of Felixstowe station, anyone remember the bar that used to be there, I think it was called The Witching Hour?
Very strange place with a bunch of unusual characters. Had a line drawn on the floor to separate the lounge from the public bar! |
Chuffers |  | | |
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| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 11:41 - Mar 17 with 1397 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 10:57 - Mar 17 by The_Major |
Always an entertaining fact that you need head west from Ipswich Station to get to Felixstowe
If you need to head west to get to Felixstowe normally, you need a boat. |
And even though Felixstowe is south of Ipswich, you then have to head north! |  |
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| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 11:46 - Mar 17 with 1361 views | Benters |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 11:41 - Mar 17 by Ewan_Oozami |
And even though Felixstowe is south of Ipswich, you then have to head north! |
Have you ever drove from Harwich to Felixstowe? | |
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| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 11:49 - Mar 17 with 1351 views | woodbridge_blue |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 11:11 - Mar 17 by Leaky |
Chuffers |
The Witching Hour was long before that...maybe 70s to early 80s? | | | |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 12:02 - Mar 17 with 1313 views | Guthrum |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 11:46 - Mar 17 by Benters |
Have you ever drove from Harwich to Felixstowe? |
Imagine calling in at Shotley en route. |  |
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| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 12:11 - Mar 17 with 1290 views | The_Major |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 11:41 - Mar 17 by Ewan_Oozami |
And even though Felixstowe is south of Ipswich, you then have to head north! |
Exactly. Problem is, Ipswich is a geographical and topological nightmare – the centre is in a bowl, thanks to the river, so ideally you need to put the station at the lowest point as trains don’t like gradients by and large. The original one was in Croft Street (which is why Station Street is where it is), but that’s a bit too far out from the centre, so then you build a tunnel under Stoke Hill, and hey presto, put the station where it is now.
But you’ve still got four directions for trains to travel – London, Cambridge/Norwich, Lowestoft, Felixstowe. For south and west, no problem, but north and east, what do you do? You can’t go through the town, it’s a tight medieval street pattern, and you’d either have to wipe half of it out to build bridges, or put another tunnel under it. Therefore the only realistic option is to do the big loop that we actually have.
The only two ways I reckon you could have done it differently is:
1. Have the station in a different place – say somewhere like Christchurch Street, Cemetery Road, that sort of area, and then just have the lines go south to somewhere like Pipers Vale before splitting between Felixstowe and London, and north to a junction at Westerfield where they split between Cambridge and the coast line. But, you’d still need to get across the river for the London line.
Or
2. Have the Felixstowe line leave the London line just after the tunnel, have another tunnel under the river, emerging at what is now Landseer Park, put a station on Clapgate Lane instead of Derby Road. Alternatively, have the Felixstowe line head through Wherstead, and then tunnel under the river between Chelmondistion and Trimley
I always think there could be scope for a tram system or something similar in the town, part of which could link it with Felixstowe – have it go along the streets until you get to St Augustines (Yes, I know it’s got to go up Bishops Hill, but trams were doing that a century ago), then have it join the railway line up to just after Nacton, let it run along the old road to Trimley, and then into Felixstowe.
If there was a more direct railway line to Felixstowe, it’d probably only take ten minutes to get there these days, but it is what it is. Still, you get a nice view when you go over the Spring Road viaduct. | | | |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 12:19 - Mar 17 with 1261 views | Benters |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 12:02 - Mar 17 by Guthrum |
Imagine calling in at Shotley en route. |
Lovely stuff I love that back road to Shotley and the views across the Mighty Stour. | |
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| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 13:10 - Mar 17 with 1142 views | stonojnr |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 12:11 - Mar 17 by The_Major |
Exactly. Problem is, Ipswich is a geographical and topological nightmare – the centre is in a bowl, thanks to the river, so ideally you need to put the station at the lowest point as trains don’t like gradients by and large. The original one was in Croft Street (which is why Station Street is where it is), but that’s a bit too far out from the centre, so then you build a tunnel under Stoke Hill, and hey presto, put the station where it is now.
But you’ve still got four directions for trains to travel – London, Cambridge/Norwich, Lowestoft, Felixstowe. For south and west, no problem, but north and east, what do you do? You can’t go through the town, it’s a tight medieval street pattern, and you’d either have to wipe half of it out to build bridges, or put another tunnel under it. Therefore the only realistic option is to do the big loop that we actually have.
The only two ways I reckon you could have done it differently is:
1. Have the station in a different place – say somewhere like Christchurch Street, Cemetery Road, that sort of area, and then just have the lines go south to somewhere like Pipers Vale before splitting between Felixstowe and London, and north to a junction at Westerfield where they split between Cambridge and the coast line. But, you’d still need to get across the river for the London line.
Or
2. Have the Felixstowe line leave the London line just after the tunnel, have another tunnel under the river, emerging at what is now Landseer Park, put a station on Clapgate Lane instead of Derby Road. Alternatively, have the Felixstowe line head through Wherstead, and then tunnel under the river between Chelmondistion and Trimley
I always think there could be scope for a tram system or something similar in the town, part of which could link it with Felixstowe – have it go along the streets until you get to St Augustines (Yes, I know it’s got to go up Bishops Hill, but trams were doing that a century ago), then have it join the railway line up to just after Nacton, let it run along the old road to Trimley, and then into Felixstowe.
If there was a more direct railway line to Felixstowe, it’d probably only take ten minutes to get there these days, but it is what it is. Still, you get a nice view when you go over the Spring Road viaduct. |
Tunnels are expensive to build, dangerous too in the 1800s, that's why Stoke tunnel is the only one on the Great Eastern main line.
The Felixstowe branch didnt open till 1877. And actually started from Westerfield it's primary backer was one Colonel Tomline, you might have been past Tomline Road o the train as its right near Derby Rd Station. Tomline also had a station built near his house,in Nacton village, called Orwell. And the terminal station was for the pier at Landguard common which linked with paddle steamers. I think its roughly still the line that runs into the docks today.
When Felixstowe grew and Tomline wanted a new station fot Felixstowe to boost building on land he owned, he insisted it be built as far from the Ordnance hotel as possible, owned by his rival a Mr John Cobbold. (Not that one but related at least)
And that is why the line follows the route it does, because our original train lines were built by private companies, funded by private individuals run for largely their own profit and wants, not about some kind of mass transportation system for the general public,that only came later.
As to the OPs original question, about 6 years now. | | | |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 14:04 - Mar 17 with 1010 views | Leaky |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 12:11 - Mar 17 by The_Major |
Exactly. Problem is, Ipswich is a geographical and topological nightmare – the centre is in a bowl, thanks to the river, so ideally you need to put the station at the lowest point as trains don’t like gradients by and large. The original one was in Croft Street (which is why Station Street is where it is), but that’s a bit too far out from the centre, so then you build a tunnel under Stoke Hill, and hey presto, put the station where it is now.
But you’ve still got four directions for trains to travel – London, Cambridge/Norwich, Lowestoft, Felixstowe. For south and west, no problem, but north and east, what do you do? You can’t go through the town, it’s a tight medieval street pattern, and you’d either have to wipe half of it out to build bridges, or put another tunnel under it. Therefore the only realistic option is to do the big loop that we actually have.
The only two ways I reckon you could have done it differently is:
1. Have the station in a different place – say somewhere like Christchurch Street, Cemetery Road, that sort of area, and then just have the lines go south to somewhere like Pipers Vale before splitting between Felixstowe and London, and north to a junction at Westerfield where they split between Cambridge and the coast line. But, you’d still need to get across the river for the London line.
Or
2. Have the Felixstowe line leave the London line just after the tunnel, have another tunnel under the river, emerging at what is now Landseer Park, put a station on Clapgate Lane instead of Derby Road. Alternatively, have the Felixstowe line head through Wherstead, and then tunnel under the river between Chelmondistion and Trimley
I always think there could be scope for a tram system or something similar in the town, part of which could link it with Felixstowe – have it go along the streets until you get to St Augustines (Yes, I know it’s got to go up Bishops Hill, but trams were doing that a century ago), then have it join the railway line up to just after Nacton, let it run along the old road to Trimley, and then into Felixstowe.
If there was a more direct railway line to Felixstowe, it’d probably only take ten minutes to get there these days, but it is what it is. Still, you get a nice view when you go over the Spring Road viaduct. |
There was a tram system years ago | | | |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 14:09 - Mar 17 with 1001 views | shady |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 09:30 - Mar 17 by woodbridge_blue |
Talking of Felixstowe station, anyone remember the bar that used to be there, I think it was called The Witching Hour?
Very strange place with a bunch of unusual characters. Had a line drawn on the floor to separate the lounge from the public bar! |
Well Felixstowe, like everywhere has some ‘posh’ areas and as it’s so large there are lots of 1 million pound houses, with excellent vistas.
However, we don’t shout about it and are amused to being regarded as a poor area; mainly because we are the only UK town without a pub on the high street. (Even Frinton has a high street pub now.)
The Grosvenor(Ranelagh Rd) is a fine town pub where I learned to drink(Tolly) and in those days there was a men only bar which seemed to accept the 16 year old version of me…no ID cards then).
I graduated to The Witching Hour run by Ron and Sadie. However graduated being the operative word. To outsiders it may have appeared strange but that’s because non-alcoholics weren’t really appreciated. One year I even missed an A level start as missed my train owing to hospitality….still allowed into the exam hall a bit late and passed the exam. Thanks to the beer.
We also have excellent walks; not just 4 miles of constantly changing coastline with 3 and a half rivers (Kingsfleet being the half).
Can walk to Ipswich or Woodbridge just like olden times on footpaths, no cars and no views of modernity.
We don’t brag,
prefer to hide and then surprise people by our quiet brilliance.
Sadly have not been back for a decade.
(Can’t afford a 1 million pound home.) |  | | |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 14:23 - Mar 17 with 970 views | Benters |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 14:09 - Mar 17 by shady |
Well Felixstowe, like everywhere has some ‘posh’ areas and as it’s so large there are lots of 1 million pound houses, with excellent vistas.
However, we don’t shout about it and are amused to being regarded as a poor area; mainly because we are the only UK town without a pub on the high street. (Even Frinton has a high street pub now.)
The Grosvenor(Ranelagh Rd) is a fine town pub where I learned to drink(Tolly) and in those days there was a men only bar which seemed to accept the 16 year old version of me…no ID cards then).
I graduated to The Witching Hour run by Ron and Sadie. However graduated being the operative word. To outsiders it may have appeared strange but that’s because non-alcoholics weren’t really appreciated. One year I even missed an A level start as missed my train owing to hospitality….still allowed into the exam hall a bit late and passed the exam. Thanks to the beer.
We also have excellent walks; not just 4 miles of constantly changing coastline with 3 and a half rivers (Kingsfleet being the half).
Can walk to Ipswich or Woodbridge just like olden times on footpaths, no cars and no views of modernity.
We don’t brag,
prefer to hide and then surprise people by our quiet brilliance.
Sadly have not been back for a decade.
(Can’t afford a 1 million pound home.) |
I think Felixstowe is lovely I’ve often had a nice walk along Languard Point. | |
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| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 15:07 - Mar 17 with 892 views | Perublue |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 11:11 - Mar 17 by Leaky |
Chuffers |
That’s it.. I was thinking chuggers … it was truly an awful establishment on every level |  |
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| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 15:37 - Mar 17 with 828 views | The_Major |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 14:04 - Mar 17 by Leaky |
There was a tram system years ago |
Oh yes, I knew that - my late grandfather used to live in Cavendish Street, iand in his childhood circa 1928 created a makeshift soapbox/go cart, which he and his friends would ride down Bishop's Hill in.
On one such trip, one of the wheels got caught in the tram rails, and it did not end well... | | | |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 15:47 - Mar 17 with 807 views | witchdoctor |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 13:10 - Mar 17 by stonojnr |
Tunnels are expensive to build, dangerous too in the 1800s, that's why Stoke tunnel is the only one on the Great Eastern main line.
The Felixstowe branch didnt open till 1877. And actually started from Westerfield it's primary backer was one Colonel Tomline, you might have been past Tomline Road o the train as its right near Derby Rd Station. Tomline also had a station built near his house,in Nacton village, called Orwell. And the terminal station was for the pier at Landguard common which linked with paddle steamers. I think its roughly still the line that runs into the docks today.
When Felixstowe grew and Tomline wanted a new station fot Felixstowe to boost building on land he owned, he insisted it be built as far from the Ordnance hotel as possible, owned by his rival a Mr John Cobbold. (Not that one but related at least)
And that is why the line follows the route it does, because our original train lines were built by private companies, funded by private individuals run for largely their own profit and wants, not about some kind of mass transportation system for the general public,that only came later.
As to the OPs original question, about 6 years now. |
wasn’t Tomline also involved in quarrying in the Dales area and had a spur off the main line to service it? |  | | |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 16:06 - Mar 17 with 778 views | ronnyd |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 13:10 - Mar 17 by stonojnr |
Tunnels are expensive to build, dangerous too in the 1800s, that's why Stoke tunnel is the only one on the Great Eastern main line.
The Felixstowe branch didnt open till 1877. And actually started from Westerfield it's primary backer was one Colonel Tomline, you might have been past Tomline Road o the train as its right near Derby Rd Station. Tomline also had a station built near his house,in Nacton village, called Orwell. And the terminal station was for the pier at Landguard common which linked with paddle steamers. I think its roughly still the line that runs into the docks today.
When Felixstowe grew and Tomline wanted a new station fot Felixstowe to boost building on land he owned, he insisted it be built as far from the Ordnance hotel as possible, owned by his rival a Mr John Cobbold. (Not that one but related at least)
And that is why the line follows the route it does, because our original train lines were built by private companies, funded by private individuals run for largely their own profit and wants, not about some kind of mass transportation system for the general public,that only came later.
As to the OPs original question, about 6 years now. |
There's a permissive path through the ferry golf course, starting near the Deben end and finishing opposite the club house, called the Tomline Wall. Named after the same guy i would imagine. | | | |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 16:27 - Mar 17 with 745 views | Blueschev |
| Just on the train to Felixstowe on 15:07 - Mar 17 by Perublue |
That’s it.. I was thinking chuggers … it was truly an awful establishment on every level |
Oh I don't know, it had a certain charm. And used to be rammed before home games during the Burley / Royle eras. |  | | |
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