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Something has to give..... 07:37 - Mar 20 with 1539 viewsPippin1970

With everything shooting up in price and still higher prices to come. Unless you got money to burn will.effect everyone . Hospitality industry etc etc etc.
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Something has to give..... on 07:40 - Mar 20 with 1505 viewsDubtractor

Don't worry, Trump reckons the war is basically over, and price increases will be short term, and he seems trustworthy.

No, you're right though, the financial impacts of this foolishness will be felt around the world for a long time.

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Something has to give..... on 08:09 - Mar 20 with 1390 viewsZx1988

If we were, for example, France, you'd be right - there'd be protests on Whitehall, blockades of channel ports, rioting in cities, the lot.

But we're not. We've grown fat, lazy, and feckless. There'll be some tutting from the sofa, and that'll be about it.

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Something has to give..... on 08:15 - Mar 20 with 1348 viewsITFC_Forever

And the usual grifters will be quick to blame Starmer, boats and people they don't like.

They'll divide people even more, and use the diversionary and divisive tactics to further drum up more support.


As an aside, I've been catching up with the Peaky Blinders series ahead of the new film and finished series 5 last night.... Farage is a pound shop Mosley.
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Something has to give..... on 08:20 - Mar 20 with 1312 viewsZx1988

Something has to give..... on 08:09 - Mar 20 by Zx1988

If we were, for example, France, you'd be right - there'd be protests on Whitehall, blockades of channel ports, rioting in cities, the lot.

But we're not. We've grown fat, lazy, and feckless. There'll be some tutting from the sofa, and that'll be about it.


Actually, I'd revise that.

We're not lazy, it just that the more reactionary parts of society have had their attention diverted elsewhere.

If those who spend their Sundays shouting at hotels and painting roundabouts decided to focus their attentions on the real issues, we'd probably get somewhere.

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Something has to give..... on 08:22 - Mar 20 with 1294 viewsbsw72

Certainly tough times, I've had to reduce the butler's hours already, chauffeur is next . . .
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Something has to give..... on 08:26 - Mar 20 with 1263 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Something has to give..... on 08:22 - Mar 20 by bsw72

Certainly tough times, I've had to reduce the butler's hours already, chauffeur is next . . .


I feel your pain.

I've had to put the pastry chef on shorter hours.

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Something has to give..... on 08:28 - Mar 20 with 1246 viewsOldFart71

Something has to give..... on 08:22 - Mar 20 by bsw72

Certainly tough times, I've had to reduce the butler's hours already, chauffeur is next . . .


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Something has to give..... on 08:37 - Mar 20 with 1206 viewsbsw72

Something has to give..... on 08:15 - Mar 20 by ITFC_Forever

And the usual grifters will be quick to blame Starmer, boats and people they don't like.

They'll divide people even more, and use the diversionary and divisive tactics to further drum up more support.


As an aside, I've been catching up with the Peaky Blinders series ahead of the new film and finished series 5 last night.... Farage is a pound shop Mosley.
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The problem is down to foreigners and boats though . . .

. . . but not those poor people on little boats searching for a better life, the problem is a small number of foreign world "leaders" starting wars and those big boats with stuff on trying to get through the Straights of Hormuz.
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Something has to give..... on 08:41 - Mar 20 with 1172 viewsHerbivore

And the rich will carry on getting richer while the rest of us suffer. These events just serve to funnel more wealth upwards. And those rich people will use the media they own to tell us it's all the fault of foreigners so that people don't start looking at where our real problems arise from.

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Something has to give..... on 08:42 - Mar 20 with 1161 viewsnoggin

Something has to give..... on 07:40 - Mar 20 by Dubtractor

Don't worry, Trump reckons the war is basically over, and price increases will be short term, and he seems trustworthy.

No, you're right though, the financial impacts of this foolishness will be felt around the world for a long time.


But at least the world is a safer place now and the Iranian people have self determination. Nobel Peace Prize to Netanyahu, I reckon.

Edit. Norway has already raised the base interest rate, as a result of the illegal war. So thanks to Netanyahu and Trump, my mortgage just got more expensive.
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Something has to give..... on 08:43 - Mar 20 with 1140 viewsnoggin

Something has to give..... on 08:41 - Mar 20 by Herbivore

And the rich will carry on getting richer while the rest of us suffer. These events just serve to funnel more wealth upwards. And those rich people will use the media they own to tell us it's all the fault of foreigners so that people don't start looking at where our real problems arise from.


POTD, already.

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Something has to give..... on 08:55 - Mar 20 with 1075 viewsBloomBlue

Prices go up, wages go up, prices go up, wages go up.

The important thing is we can still buy cheap stuff from the slave workers in China, I'll be spending today shopping on Temu, bargains everywhere. Plus AI will fix everything else.

Funny old world, we sat moaning in the pub yesterday about the price of everything, cross generations. We all smiled with irony, one had their latest expensive iPhone on the table, one expensive earbuds, one had just just sat down after being outside smoking a cigarette, and I had put the Range Rover V8 in for some work earlier that day - but we were all complaining the price of food was so high we would have to cut back on some types of food. Funny old world.
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Something has to give..... on 09:42 - Mar 20 with 881 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Something has to give..... on 08:42 - Mar 20 by noggin

But at least the world is a safer place now and the Iranian people have self determination. Nobel Peace Prize to Netanyahu, I reckon.

Edit. Norway has already raised the base interest rate, as a result of the illegal war. So thanks to Netanyahu and Trump, my mortgage just got more expensive.
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But your pension will get bigger given the way oil and gas prices are going up. Norway of course will profit more from the war than anywhere in Europe.
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Something has to give..... on 09:42 - Mar 20 with 883 viewsGuthrum

What gives will be living standards and employment rates. The latter doubly so as manic managers try to replace workers with half-arsed AI models to supposedly save money.

There will then be a house price crisis as defaults rise and people are unable to sell at the values needed to fund a new place. The government will then be forced to borrow even more money to bail out banks and other essential businesses - thus leading to cuts in public services.

There is then the risk that people will vote in a bunch of headbangers with no idea on how to run a country, but a semi-covert agenda to turn the UK into an unregulated tax haven for their wealthy and unscrupulous hedge fund mates (or "helping businesses", as they put it).

Economic hardship breeds discontent, which often does not turn out well. Peace and widespread prosperity are what drives the best outcomes for human civilisation - something too easily forgotten by greedy, selfish idiots in power (plus those advising and funding them).

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Something has to give..... on 09:51 - Mar 20 with 849 viewsGuthrum

Something has to give..... on 08:55 - Mar 20 by BloomBlue

Prices go up, wages go up, prices go up, wages go up.

The important thing is we can still buy cheap stuff from the slave workers in China, I'll be spending today shopping on Temu, bargains everywhere. Plus AI will fix everything else.

Funny old world, we sat moaning in the pub yesterday about the price of everything, cross generations. We all smiled with irony, one had their latest expensive iPhone on the table, one expensive earbuds, one had just just sat down after being outside smoking a cigarette, and I had put the Range Rover V8 in for some work earlier that day - but we were all complaining the price of food was so high we would have to cut back on some types of food. Funny old world.


Discontent is (and always has been) based upon relative perceptions. With a chunk of "aspirational" media lifestyle presentation in there too.

It's interesting that, despite continued rationing, Austerity and the Cold War, the post-1945 era was seen as a time of positive change. Looking back upon two world wars and the Great Depression from the position of the new Welfare State, rapidly improving technology (white heat and all) and developing social attitudes, combined with the reign of a new, young queen, there was a lot of optimism for the future. Until the economic collapse of the '70s and early '80s slapped it in the face.

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Something has to give..... on 09:55 - Mar 20 with 825 viewsCafe_Newman

Something has to give..... on 08:22 - Mar 20 by bsw72

Certainly tough times, I've had to reduce the butler's hours already, chauffeur is next . . .


Trump and Netanyahu have destroyed the domestic servant market for the average family in Western Europe.

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Something has to give..... on 10:02 - Mar 20 with 796 viewsCafe_Newman

Something has to give..... on 08:41 - Mar 20 by Herbivore

And the rich will carry on getting richer while the rest of us suffer. These events just serve to funnel more wealth upwards. And those rich people will use the media they own to tell us it's all the fault of foreigners so that people don't start looking at where our real problems arise from.


If you're suggesting that someone controls the world's media, I suggest you reword your post in such a way that it blames any political or religious entity that is currently opposing the genocide in Palestine etc etc etc

Good post.

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Something has to give..... on 07:24 - Mar 21 with 495 viewsnoggin

Something has to give..... on 09:42 - Mar 20 by SuperKieranMcKenna

But your pension will get bigger given the way oil and gas prices are going up. Norway of course will profit more from the war than anywhere in Europe.


It will have no effect on my pension, unless I get an above inflation pay rise. I don't see how this illegal war will deliver that.

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Something has to give..... on 08:30 - Mar 21 with 368 viewsDJR

The war has had one upside.

https://www.theguardian.com/bu

‘It’s come at the wrong time’: how Iran war has floored the Gulf as a sports hub

Conflict has not only hit sporting calendar but laid bare weakness in plans for diversifying economies through sport
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Something has to give..... on 08:35 - Mar 21 with 356 viewsElderGrizzly

Something has to give..... on 07:40 - Mar 20 by Dubtractor

Don't worry, Trump reckons the war is basically over, and price increases will be short term, and he seems trustworthy.

No, you're right though, the financial impacts of this foolishness will be felt around the world for a long time.


Qatar said it would take 5 years to repair their refineries/gas terminals.

Saudi are planning to join attacks and UAE have said they expect another 8 months of war at least

It will definitely go on for a long while.

And despite Trump saying it is over, he is sending 5,000 more troops to the region this weekend and Pentagon plans show planning for troops in Iran.
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Something has to give..... on 09:05 - Mar 21 with 293 viewslazyblue

Something has to give..... on 08:15 - Mar 20 by ITFC_Forever

And the usual grifters will be quick to blame Starmer, boats and people they don't like.

They'll divide people even more, and use the diversionary and divisive tactics to further drum up more support.


As an aside, I've been catching up with the Peaky Blinders series ahead of the new film and finished series 5 last night.... Farage is a pound shop Mosley.
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Boats need to stop whatever happens
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Something has to give..... on 09:09 - Mar 21 with 275 viewsthebooks

Something has to give..... on 09:05 - Mar 21 by lazyblue

Boats need to stop whatever happens


Agreed, safe passage for all migrants is the only sensible policy.
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Something has to give..... on 09:11 - Mar 21 with 269 viewsthebooks

Something has to give..... on 08:20 - Mar 20 by Zx1988

Actually, I'd revise that.

We're not lazy, it just that the more reactionary parts of society have had their attention diverted elsewhere.

If those who spend their Sundays shouting at hotels and painting roundabouts decided to focus their attentions on the real issues, we'd probably get somewhere.


France has more of a rioting tradition than the UK. We’re also the home of there is no alternative, so we tend to be more passive.

Reform have filled this vacuum. The Greens are also trying.
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Something has to give..... on 09:55 - Mar 21 with 183 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Something has to give..... on 08:35 - Mar 21 by ElderGrizzly

Qatar said it would take 5 years to repair their refineries/gas terminals.

Saudi are planning to join attacks and UAE have said they expect another 8 months of war at least

It will definitely go on for a long while.

And despite Trump saying it is over, he is sending 5,000 more troops to the region this weekend and Pentagon plans show planning for troops in Iran.


“ Qatar said it would take 5 years to repair their refineries/gas terminals.”

Which is weird because I posted a list of energy infrastructure which has been hit only for another poster to tell me it’s fake news! The problem the Gulf states have now is many are running low on anti missile stocks due to the sheer volume of drones and missiles Iran have fired off. Can expect them to continue those attacks on energy assets now with likely more success. Saudi have a huge pipeline which is being used to bypass Hormuz, so expect that to come under attack.

I think an assault on mainland Iran remains unlikely, it’s a huge country and mountainous which means it would likely end up a quagmire like Afghanistan. More likely they’ll go for Kharg island to cut off a huge portion of Iran’s oil exports. Regardless they’ve opened a real can of worms, and totally agree I can see it going on a long time (unless he gets bored and leaves it as a failed state which would also be a disaster).
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