| A positive spin on all this 10:06 - Mar 25 with 912 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
It's heartening to see so much ill-feeling against Reform/Farage, and makes me feel like if this were replicated across the country there's no way him, his party and their disgusting views and rhetoric get into power.
I've never seen TWTD so united and passionate against something!
It makes you think the future could be brighter after all. |  |
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| A positive spin on all this on 10:09 - Mar 25 with 878 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Just got to hope it is the view held in the stands as well. We have already seen a Derby away end chanting about Keir Starmer for some reason. If we start getting pro Farage chants that would really be a further issue. |  |
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| A positive spin on all this on 10:13 - Mar 25 with 835 views | ITFCson |
You do realise that those with the ill-feeling are those generally that shout the loudest so it is not necessarily a true gauge of TWTD sentiment.
The overall polls and betting odds suggest Reform is very well supported and it would be naive to think that the ITFC supporting community differs so much from the wider community of the entire UK. |  | | |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:14 - Mar 25 with 828 views | Guthrum |
That is the reason why I very much doubt they will win the next General Election. People across the spectrum who oppose Reform (which even includes some of the rump of the Conservative Party) are likely to combine and tactically vote in order to keep them out. We've seen that in recent by-elections.
Similarly, I expect parties in the HoC to do likewise in the aftermath, either as a coalition or by supporting a minority government. |  |
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| A positive spin on all this on 10:16 - Mar 25 with 801 views | Guthrum |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:13 - Mar 25 by ITFCson |
You do realise that those with the ill-feeling are those generally that shout the loudest so it is not necessarily a true gauge of TWTD sentiment.
The overall polls and betting odds suggest Reform is very well supported and it would be naive to think that the ITFC supporting community differs so much from the wider community of the entire UK. |
Tho that would mean 72-77% of people* are not Reform supporters. Or approximately three-quarters.
* The spread in recent polls. | |
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| A positive spin on all this on 10:24 - Mar 25 with 717 views | pointofblue |
However TWTD is, and I do not mean this disparagingly, a left wing/centre left echo chamber for the most part. If a similar response is reflected on X, for example, then it would be more promising. | |
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| A positive spin on all this on 10:26 - Mar 25 with 698 views | ketton_itfc |
1 in 3 support Reform and the country is split 50/50 Left/Right. Those that want to be offended will be while others will shrug their shoulders.
We live in a divided country and no party is looking to change that. |  | | |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:28 - Mar 25 with 658 views | _CliveBaker_ |
So was Vote Remain on here to be fair, and look how that went. |  | | |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:29 - Mar 25 with 640 views | lazyblue |
Positive spin would be if everybody calmed the hell down and got back to getting a grip on reality.
I’m not a Farage fan and not a supporter of reform but they are not a bigot or racist party ( these days ) however they will be getting the votes of many in the next elections so Farage is a major political leader ( that’s all) who visited the club .
I don’t think it’s great with the photos etc but this is turning in to a complete farce now of who can out do who in the who is most woke department on this board .
He has been and gone just get over it and move on and more importantly let’s get behind the lads again and get this club up! | | | |
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| A positive spin on all this on 10:30 - Mar 25 with 640 views | ITFCson |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:16 - Mar 25 by Guthrum |
Tho that would mean 72-77% of people* are not Reform supporters. Or approximately three-quarters.
* The spread in recent polls. |
Yes absolutely, but 72% spread amongst many other parties.
But are you seeing as high as 25% political threads being made in favour of Farage? I honestly am not sure I have seen 1 suggesting they tend to keep quiet. | | | |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:36 - Mar 25 with 612 views | lowhouseblue |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:24 - Mar 25 by pointofblue |
However TWTD is, and I do not mean this disparagingly, a left wing/centre left echo chamber for the most part. If a similar response is reflected on X, for example, then it would be more promising. |
also farage feeds off ill-feeling. just like trump. the reason that farage's (largely fake) persona - the beer, the fags, the plain speaking - is attractive to lots of people is that they hugely prefer it to the alternative. and twtd for the last day has largely captured that alternative. lots of people look at the toys out of the pram, the intolerance of alternative views, and the precious, entitled demand that their views are the only ones that count, and on balance they tend to prefer farage and the beer and the fags. people refusing to wear the shirt, or hoping we don't get promoted, or calling for people at the club to be sacked, and all just because someone they disagree with politically was pictured in a town shirt, would look to many people to be ludicrous.
so if did farage ever see the reaction on twtd he'd be really quite pleased about it.
remember, a lot of people swung to trump primarilly because they really didn't like the democrats - what they saw as all the preachy, po-faced, self-righteousness. just saying. |  |
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| A positive spin on all this on 10:39 - Mar 25 with 582 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:28 - Mar 25 by _CliveBaker_ |
So was Vote Remain on here to be fair, and look how that went. |
Well I'd hope people have learned their lesson there! | |
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| A positive spin on all this on 10:41 - Mar 25 with 571 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:26 - Mar 25 by ketton_itfc |
1 in 3 support Reform and the country is split 50/50 Left/Right. Those that want to be offended will be while others will shrug their shoulders.
We live in a divided country and no party is looking to change that. |
Where's your evidence that 1 in 3 support Reform?
Or even that the country is split 50/50 Left/Right?
These are just figures plucked out of your bum aren't they? | |
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| A positive spin on all this on 10:44 - Mar 25 with 535 views | IP1Blue |
Or it just shows that you are in an echo chamber?
Just because your own personal politics don’t agree with him, doesn’t mean the club can’t communicate with ALL political parties.
You can’t say inclusivity and diversity and then ostracise the party leading the polls nationally and locally. It’s hypocritical by nature.
I don’t agree with reform or Farage but when you take your own political beliefs out of it, it’s not that difficult to understand. | | | |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:45 - Mar 25 with 526 views | bsw72 |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:39 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Well I'd hope people have learned their lesson there! |
Hope? - we know how that goes for football fans . . . |  | | |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:50 - Mar 25 with 505 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:44 - Mar 25 by IP1Blue |
Or it just shows that you are in an echo chamber?
Just because your own personal politics don’t agree with him, doesn’t mean the club can’t communicate with ALL political parties.
You can’t say inclusivity and diversity and then ostracise the party leading the polls nationally and locally. It’s hypocritical by nature.
I don’t agree with reform or Farage but when you take your own political beliefs out of it, it’s not that difficult to understand. |
Where have I, or anyone, ostracised Reform?
Surely the whole point is the club didn't ostricise him!
My point is, despite what the polls say, when it comes to our club a large majority have risen up and said no. When it mattered the people said no. Polls mean nothing now. | |
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| A positive spin on all this on 11:01 - Mar 25 with 451 views | IP1Blue |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:50 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Where have I, or anyone, ostracised Reform?
Surely the whole point is the club didn't ostricise him!
My point is, despite what the polls say, when it comes to our club a large majority have risen up and said no. When it mattered the people said no. Polls mean nothing now. |
But everyone is losing their minds at the club for NOT ostracising him. That’s my point, you can’t say that you want to be something but also want ostracise someone or a group, the whole thing is hypocritical.
That’s a silly thing to say though, because that’s like me saying the majority of people said no to labour as they only got 33% of the vote and 67% of people rejected them.
Everything now a day is sensationalised, the posts over the last few days are ridiculous, even one today saying wearing the shirt is a political slogan, my god. All of this will be forgotten about in a weeks time and if you’re holding on to it, that’s on you not anyone else or the club.
If you’re a Green Party / Labour supporter, you’re woke tofu eater veggie, if you’re a reform / Tory supporter, you’re racist and bigoted. Everything now is toxic, people can’t think rationally or critically think. If you’re offended by something that’s on you for both sides. Gone are the days for rationality and debate. | | | |
| A positive spin on all this on 11:03 - Mar 25 with 433 views | Guthrum |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:30 - Mar 25 by ITFCson |
Yes absolutely, but 72% spread amongst many other parties.
But are you seeing as high as 25% political threads being made in favour of Farage? I honestly am not sure I have seen 1 suggesting they tend to keep quiet. |
Not many threads initiated, but certainly a fair number of postings.
The problem with "silent majorities" (to use the common phrase - or silent any other size) is that they are, by their very nature, impossible to detect and enumerate. Indeed, for their existence to be proven, or otherwise, at all.
Tho that hasn't stopped politicians from Nixon onwards using the idea to promote their own aims. | |
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| A positive spin on all this on 11:04 - Mar 25 with 427 views | darkhorse28 |
BUT our club and the man you gave exclusive control to, with no oversight or scrutiny DOES stand with Reform.
And until Mark is gone, that remain remain the view of players, coaches, managers, sponsors and supporters, present and future, WE are a toxic club now!!
And we are.
Where was the scrutiny when Mark was given exclusive control of the club with zero oversight, even now while our club is destroyed you’re talking about your own politics and Nigel!!!!
WHIlE OUR CLUB BURNS.
We’re fishing in a pond 70% smaller for players, staff and sponsors now - that’s the consequences of YOU blindly clapping Mark Ashton!!
Even now you’re bidding along!! Wake up. We’re th most toxic club in the country, no ifs, no buts, and it’s not about politics. It’s about our bloody football club!!
This could end us, because agents, players. Coaches, sponsors, managers, they won’t say why they’re leaving, why they’re not signing, because they don’t need to, they just DO IT
We are finished as a club if Ashton stays.
I don’t think you 1% get that.
You’re too busy obsessing about your own politics to even realise!!! WAKE UP
We’re finished as a club - done while Ashton is here. DONE
And I don’t doubt he’s trying to find a scapegoat as we speak, because even someone with his self interest, had probably worked out what a mess he’s made of the club .., career wise he won’t care. Clearly this is part of where he sees himself going. His plan.
To destroy our club doing it though!! That’s priceless.
You and many others still doing the nodding dog!
I have to ask. Do you even care about the club?
Or is political points and likes just more important??
That’s rhetorical - our club is done now.., you might want to afford some scrutiny 2 years after the fact .., kind of important. Sake. | | | |
| A positive spin on all this on 11:10 - Mar 25 with 386 views | IP1Blue |
| A positive spin on all this on 11:04 - Mar 25 by darkhorse28 |
BUT our club and the man you gave exclusive control to, with no oversight or scrutiny DOES stand with Reform.
And until Mark is gone, that remain remain the view of players, coaches, managers, sponsors and supporters, present and future, WE are a toxic club now!!
And we are.
Where was the scrutiny when Mark was given exclusive control of the club with zero oversight, even now while our club is destroyed you’re talking about your own politics and Nigel!!!!
WHIlE OUR CLUB BURNS.
We’re fishing in a pond 70% smaller for players, staff and sponsors now - that’s the consequences of YOU blindly clapping Mark Ashton!!
Even now you’re bidding along!! Wake up. We’re th most toxic club in the country, no ifs, no buts, and it’s not about politics. It’s about our bloody football club!!
This could end us, because agents, players. Coaches, sponsors, managers, they won’t say why they’re leaving, why they’re not signing, because they don’t need to, they just DO IT
We are finished as a club if Ashton stays.
I don’t think you 1% get that.
You’re too busy obsessing about your own politics to even realise!!! WAKE UP
We’re finished as a club - done while Ashton is here. DONE
And I don’t doubt he’s trying to find a scapegoat as we speak, because even someone with his self interest, had probably worked out what a mess he’s made of the club .., career wise he won’t care. Clearly this is part of where he sees himself going. His plan.
To destroy our club doing it though!! That’s priceless.
You and many others still doing the nodding dog!
I have to ask. Do you even care about the club?
Or is political points and likes just more important??
That’s rhetorical - our club is done now.., you might want to afford some scrutiny 2 years after the fact .., kind of important. Sake. |
You can’t seriously type that out, read that and then read it again and think that any of that is true.
Did you not see what Ratcliffe said in his interview as owner of Manchester United?
Ashton hasn’t said or done anywhere near as bad as that and they seem to still be ok
What a load of rubbish. | | | |
| A positive spin on all this on 12:07 - Mar 25 with 294 views | ITFCson |
| A positive spin on all this on 11:04 - Mar 25 by darkhorse28 |
BUT our club and the man you gave exclusive control to, with no oversight or scrutiny DOES stand with Reform.
And until Mark is gone, that remain remain the view of players, coaches, managers, sponsors and supporters, present and future, WE are a toxic club now!!
And we are.
Where was the scrutiny when Mark was given exclusive control of the club with zero oversight, even now while our club is destroyed you’re talking about your own politics and Nigel!!!!
WHIlE OUR CLUB BURNS.
We’re fishing in a pond 70% smaller for players, staff and sponsors now - that’s the consequences of YOU blindly clapping Mark Ashton!!
Even now you’re bidding along!! Wake up. We’re th most toxic club in the country, no ifs, no buts, and it’s not about politics. It’s about our bloody football club!!
This could end us, because agents, players. Coaches, sponsors, managers, they won’t say why they’re leaving, why they’re not signing, because they don’t need to, they just DO IT
We are finished as a club if Ashton stays.
I don’t think you 1% get that.
You’re too busy obsessing about your own politics to even realise!!! WAKE UP
We’re finished as a club - done while Ashton is here. DONE
And I don’t doubt he’s trying to find a scapegoat as we speak, because even someone with his self interest, had probably worked out what a mess he’s made of the club .., career wise he won’t care. Clearly this is part of where he sees himself going. His plan.
To destroy our club doing it though!! That’s priceless.
You and many others still doing the nodding dog!
I have to ask. Do you even care about the club?
Or is political points and likes just more important??
That’s rhetorical - our club is done now.., you might want to afford some scrutiny 2 years after the fact .., kind of important. Sake. |
I think you need help!! | | | |
| A positive spin on all this on 12:59 - Mar 25 with 202 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| A positive spin on all this on 12:07 - Mar 25 by ITFCson |
I think you need help!! |
We've been saying this for years.
I thought Darkhorse got banned?
Anyway, no surprise they're loving all this. Best to do what I do, don't read any of it, just fire a downarrow and move on. | |
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| A positive spin on all this on 13:19 - Mar 25 with 147 views | jaykay |
| A positive spin on all this on 12:59 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
We've been saying this for years.
I thought Darkhorse got banned?
Anyway, no surprise they're loving all this. Best to do what I do, don't read any of it, just fire a downarrow and move on. |
he also sounds like elephant in the room late of this parish. ive noticed a greater in flux of new posters since our meteoric rise from the clubs death throws. i expect some are budgies |  |
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| A positive spin on all this on 13:30 - Mar 25 with 109 views | Radlett_blue |
| A positive spin on all this on 10:30 - Mar 25 by ITFCson |
Yes absolutely, but 72% spread amongst many other parties.
But are you seeing as high as 25% political threads being made in favour of Farage? I honestly am not sure I have seen 1 suggesting they tend to keep quiet. |
Yes, according to the latest YouGov poll, Reform is supported by 23% of the people, which means that 77% oppose it. But on that basis, 81% of people are against Labour etc etc.
Given that Reform are right wing, they naturally attract a greater level of opprobrium, especially on the internet and message boards. |  |
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