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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… 09:47 - Mar 27 with 1531 viewsbrazil1981

How much is actually true though?

For starters “The players are said to have discussed the issue at training on Tuesday”…

Well several were away on International duty and I’m told the rest of the squad had been given a couple of days off!

So what do you believe?
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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:48 - Mar 27 with 1447 viewsAljoBlue

i guess it was non-playing club staff that madeup the team to play against west ham?
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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:49 - Mar 27 with 1434 viewsurbanpenguin

I believe a very professional journalist who works for a highly respected international news outlet who will have had layers of editors and legals check the piece before going live and who also asked the club for a comment with no actual denial coming back.
Yeah, I'd believe the Athletic over a CEO that has said absolutely nothing so far.
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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:50 - Mar 27 with 1410 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

The players bit came from Nick Ames so The Athletic saying "are said" is just reporting another report. See no reason he would lie.

As for the Athletic for them to the run the story they must be absolutely adamant what they are saying is correct or they would be in serious hot water. Not the sure the most reputable sports journalism brand in the world (TWTD aside) would be taking that risk.

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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:51 - Mar 27 with 1357 viewsElderGrizzly

I believe professional journalists who have integrity and could be sacked for lying (ironically!).

Nick Ames, who is a Town fan, reported the player side of the story a couple of days before The Athletic too.

There is no reason to think they are lying at all. There is every reason to think the club/Ashton are given everything we now know.
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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:51 - Mar 27 with 1348 viewsN2_Blue

How naive do you want to be?

A publication like the Athletic does not publish comment without evidence or sources

You do know we have a squad many of whom are not Internationals. We even played a beheind closed doors game v West Ham yesterday. You think the team weren't training for that game on the Tuesday??

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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:52 - Mar 27 with 1273 viewsSWLondonBlue93

If the question is who I have more trust in right now, the club or The Athletic, unfortunately I have to go with the latter.
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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:52 - Mar 27 with 1275 viewsjasondozzell

Nick Ames reported this. A very well respected national journalist from the area who knows the club.

It's true.
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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:53 - Mar 27 with 1255 viewsgrow_our_own

Yes however do people communicate when they're not physically adjacent? All lies I tell you. It's not like Athletic and the New York Times are reputable, lawyered to the hilt, and have multiple layers of editorial oversight.
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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:53 - Mar 27 with 1228 viewsElderGrizzly

This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:51 - Mar 27 by N2_Blue

How naive do you want to be?

A publication like the Athletic does not publish comment without evidence or sources

You do know we have a squad many of whom are not Internationals. We even played a beheind closed doors game v West Ham yesterday. You think the team weren't training for that game on the Tuesday??


There was a poster on X yesterday who said it was all still just social media noise, literally under the article from The Athletic.

People believe what they want to believe sadly.

I did ask them is Farage or Ashton lying then, given they are a big Nige fan. It went quiet...
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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:54 - Mar 27 with 1210 viewsMaySixth

I believe paid-for quality journalism with multiple sources that can be proven.

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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:54 - Mar 27 with 1189 viewsElderGrizzly

This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:52 - Mar 27 by jasondozzell

Nick Ames reported this. A very well respected national journalist from the area who knows the club.

It's true.


And Phil confirmed the story too on the lunch element at least.

Plus he was told there was no official club involvement.
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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:57 - Mar 27 with 1133 viewsGuthrum

It's a reputable news organisation. If they are publishing falsehoods, then the club/Ashton have to insist on a retraction article or announce they are suing for libel (and win the subsequent case).

Not doing so with such damaging allegations would be tacit admission there is truth in them.

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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 10:00 - Mar 27 with 1081 viewsN2_Blue

This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 09:54 - Mar 27 by ElderGrizzly

And Phil confirmed the story too on the lunch element at least.

Plus he was told there was no official club involvement.


Speak to any one who knows an employee of the club and they'll confirm the lunch.

The Athletic is big enough to have investigative journalists based here. They will have done their digging around.

Trouble is for Ashton he may have created even more of a hole for himself as people are going to do more digging. There is likley a lot more to come out rgearding Ashton relating to agents worked with, contractors etc.

Pulling a stunt like ths some people won't let this go and Ashton is now a dead man walking. He's finished i think which is the only reason I can explain the silence and i think a lot more could possible come out over this whole sorry episode.
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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 10:03 - Mar 27 with 1028 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 10:00 - Mar 27 by N2_Blue

Speak to any one who knows an employee of the club and they'll confirm the lunch.

The Athletic is big enough to have investigative journalists based here. They will have done their digging around.

Trouble is for Ashton he may have created even more of a hole for himself as people are going to do more digging. There is likley a lot more to come out rgearding Ashton relating to agents worked with, contractors etc.

Pulling a stunt like ths some people won't let this go and Ashton is now a dead man walking. He's finished i think which is the only reason I can explain the silence and i think a lot more could possible come out over this whole sorry episode.
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And seeing as though he has seemingly annoyed a lot of staff they will have no shortage of people who will be willing to talk about what was happening inside the club.

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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 10:04 - Mar 27 with 1020 viewsSitfcB

I’m afraid it’s true.

The Athletic are probably up there as the number 1 most reliable source you can have, when stuff is on there you can put a 99% guarantee on it.

They don’t just put things out willy nilly.

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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 10:16 - Mar 27 with 826 viewsGuthrum

This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 10:03 - Mar 27 by TRUE_BLUE123

And seeing as though he has seemingly annoyed a lot of staff they will have no shortage of people who will be willing to talk about what was happening inside the club.


Appears that Reform are equally prepared to provide their version of events. Perhaps not impressed at his trying to disown what happened.

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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 10:18 - Mar 27 with 791 viewsElderGrizzly

This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 10:04 - Mar 27 by SitfcB

I’m afraid it’s true.

The Athletic are probably up there as the number 1 most reliable source you can have, when stuff is on there you can put a 99% guarantee on it.

They don’t just put things out willy nilly.


I did enjoy Texters X discussion with Nick Ames a couple of days ago where he accused him of lying, similarly to this OP
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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 10:25 - Mar 27 with 713 viewsElderGrizzly

This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 10:16 - Mar 27 by Guthrum

Appears that Reform are equally prepared to provide their version of events. Perhaps not impressed at his trying to disown what happened.


I said from day one, Farage will have the receipts on all this which is why lying was pointless.

I wouldn't be surprised if his people were the ones to co-operate with some of the journalists too when the club tried to spin the "no involvement" line.
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This The Athletic story which we’re basing a lot of this scandal on… on 10:30 - Mar 27 with 654 viewsITFCSG

As I have said in another thread, in today’s litigious world if what the Athletic and other news media published were pure poppycock then I am sure the Club would have their lawyers issue a cease and desist letter at first notice. The deafening silence means there’s some truth in these reports and that the Club has been caught with their pants down
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