| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up 11:25 - Apr 5 with 2465 views | grow_our_own |
Good write up yesterday in East Anglia Bylines on everything still unresolved:
https://eastangliabylines.co.u
New one: Farage trying to bail Ashton out by suggesting visit was to discuss football regulation rather than to give Reform a publicity event isn't realistic. [Post edited 5 Apr 11:27]
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:29 - Apr 5 with 2098 views | witchdoctor |
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:29 - Apr 5 with 2094 views | J2BLUE |
Why would Farage try and bail him out? He was the one who proved the official invite story wrong in the first place. |  |
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:37 - Apr 5 with 2044 views | grow_our_own |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:29 - Apr 5 by J2BLUE |
Why would Farage try and bail him out? He was the one who proved the official invite story wrong in the first place. |
Because anonymously booking a stadium tour and then turning that into a publicity junket makes Reform look even shadier than they are. They had to tell the truth: that the vampire was invited in. [Post edited 5 Apr 11:39]
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:38 - Apr 5 with 2033 views | Mullet |
I suspect Nash will carry the can given this is all comms related and he is more junior. Club can also spin that he has less pedigree having come from a smaller club in Scotland and the jump has proven too big. |  |
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:40 - Apr 5 with 2017 views | J2BLUE |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:37 - Apr 5 by grow_our_own |
Because anonymously booking a stadium tour and then turning that into a publicity junket makes Reform look even shadier than they are. They had to tell the truth: that the vampire was invited in. [Post edited 5 Apr 11:39]
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True. Would Reform care about Ashton though? They came in, played Ashton perfectly and got exactly what they want. Not sure they would care enough to try and bail him out. | |
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:43 - Apr 5 with 2003 views | Mullet |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:40 - Apr 5 by J2BLUE |
True. Would Reform care about Ashton though? They came in, played Ashton perfectly and got exactly what they want. Not sure they would care enough to try and bail him out. |
I guess the argument is Reform works entirely on favours, backhanders etc but I don't think it really matters does it?
Damage is done, owners aren't acting decisively enough to mitigate it and we are left with this mess to slowly fade. | |
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:50 - Apr 5 with 1982 views | grow_our_own |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:40 - Apr 5 by J2BLUE |
True. Would Reform care about Ashton though? They came in, played Ashton perfectly and got exactly what they want. Not sure they would care enough to try and bail him out. |
"played Ashton perfectly" - the poor innocent mark. He's an experienced CEO, not an intern! Part of being a football CEO is knowing the environment you operate in, including the political one. Everything about last Monday: six free shirts with "Farage 10" and "To Mark", all the publicity, suggest Ashton is a Reform fan-boy who got exactly what he wanted.
Running a decent size, high-profile org like ITFC makes Ashton useful to Reform in being a friendly presence near Farage's stomping ground in Clacton, and puts him head and shoulders ahead of most Reform supporters when it comes to handing out jobs in future. Worth trying to bail-out through more lies. [Post edited 5 Apr 11:52]
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 12:18 - Apr 5 with 1875 views | J2BLUE |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:50 - Apr 5 by grow_our_own |
"played Ashton perfectly" - the poor innocent mark. He's an experienced CEO, not an intern! Part of being a football CEO is knowing the environment you operate in, including the political one. Everything about last Monday: six free shirts with "Farage 10" and "To Mark", all the publicity, suggest Ashton is a Reform fan-boy who got exactly what he wanted.
Running a decent size, high-profile org like ITFC makes Ashton useful to Reform in being a friendly presence near Farage's stomping ground in Clacton, and puts him head and shoulders ahead of most Reform supporters when it comes to handing out jobs in future. Worth trying to bail-out through more lies. [Post edited 5 Apr 11:52]
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I didn't mean it like that. Ashton clearly made the choice and is responsible. I just meant Reform used him and he was not smart enough to see it. Or, as you say, he was happy to do it as he supports them.
Either way he made a huge mistake. | |
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 12:33 - Apr 5 with 1784 views | Illinoisblue |
After Ashton’s non apology, the strategy now seems to be lay low, hope we get promoted and then s5it out another half-assed apology/statement around “lessons being learnt, club comes first and now let’s focus on staying in the prem” and hope that everyone is too busy celebrating to care much.
If we do get promoted at the QPR game it’ll be interesting to see Ashton’s involvement in the celebrations. He was front and centre for the previous two and I suspect his ego won’t let him stay out of the limelight this time either. |  |
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 15:48 - Apr 5 with 1513 views | blueoutlook |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:38 - Apr 5 by Mullet |
I suspect Nash will carry the can given this is all comms related and he is more junior. Club can also spin that he has less pedigree having come from a smaller club in Scotland and the jump has proven too big. |
I think Ashton will be replaced in the close season. Either that or someone will come in as chairman and he steps back a bit. I can’t see the yanks leaving things as they are. They can see it has left a very sour taste. |  | | |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 16:39 - Apr 5 with 1457 views | grow_our_own |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 15:48 - Apr 5 by blueoutlook |
I think Ashton will be replaced in the close season. Either that or someone will come in as chairman and he steps back a bit. I can’t see the yanks leaving things as they are. They can see it has left a very sour taste. |
A call to inaction. Ashton is going nowhere unless we make it happen.
Getting behind the players means also calling for Ashton to go.
Protest by PhilTWTD 29 Mar 14:56The players were and probably still are furious about all this, as you'd imagine they'd be having had shirts with their names on appearing in videos promoting Reform without their knowledge. And it's certainly not about 'left-wing views', plenty of people who would put themselves on the right on here and elsewhere are unhappy with the association of their club with Reform.
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 16:52 - Apr 5 with 1399 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 12:33 - Apr 5 by Illinoisblue |
After Ashton’s non apology, the strategy now seems to be lay low, hope we get promoted and then s5it out another half-assed apology/statement around “lessons being learnt, club comes first and now let’s focus on staying in the prem” and hope that everyone is too busy celebrating to care much.
If we do get promoted at the QPR game it’ll be interesting to see Ashton’s involvement in the celebrations. He was front and centre for the previous two and I suspect his ego won’t let him stay out of the limelight this time either. |
Not that I’ve defended any of the handling by the club but were you expecting a statement about the statement or an apology about the apology? They were hardly going to keep giving it more ‘oxygen’!
Of course laying low would be the tactic after the week that was.
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 16:56 - Apr 5 with 1376 views | Dubtractor |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 16:52 - Apr 5 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Not that I’ve defended any of the handling by the club but were you expecting a statement about the statement or an apology about the apology? They were hardly going to keep giving it more ‘oxygen’!
Of course laying low would be the tactic after the week that was.
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I think I would have liked to see some of the bridge building that Ashton promised, but agree that we weren't going to get more statements, and think I'd prefer not to have my intelligence insulted further anyway. |  |
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 18:28 - Apr 5 with 1228 views | TractorJack |
The topic of the conversation is completely irrelevant. |  | | |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 18:59 - Apr 5 with 1139 views | WeWereZombies |
Not sure of the provenance of East Anglian Bylines, or how influential they are, but the article might be the most comprehensive yet on the subject (sorry, Phil) and has me wondering about how one of our investors, Bright Path Sports Partners (specialises in strategic investments in professional sports teams, venues, media, and gaming. Notable investments include a 40% stake in Ipswich Town Football Club. They partner with Native American tribes, family offices, and institutional investors.) can continue investing in our Club if we fail to take decisive action.
As an aside Bright Path is an interesting name:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ |  |
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 19:04 - Apr 5 with 1124 views | pointofblue |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 18:28 - Apr 5 by TractorJack |
The topic of the conversation is completely irrelevant. |
In what way? | |
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 20:31 - Apr 5 with 1017 views | TractorJack |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 19:04 - Apr 5 by pointofblue |
In what way? |
In that there is nothing that would justify the series of actions. | | | |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 20:37 - Apr 5 with 992 views | pointofblue |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 20:31 - Apr 5 by TractorJack |
In that there is nothing that would justify the series of actions. |
Ah I see - I'm glad I asked as I completely misunderstood you. Thanks for confirming.
For me, I don't mind the meeting, or the lunch. Like it or not, Farage currently carries some sway, with a group of MPs in the Commons and doing ok in the polls. Discussing the football regulator is at least on topic.
The issue is the way the whole thing became a promotional opportunity for a political party, and the hamfisted way the club handled the fallout. | |
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 03:36 - Apr 6 with 832 views | football |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:50 - Apr 5 by grow_our_own |
"played Ashton perfectly" - the poor innocent mark. He's an experienced CEO, not an intern! Part of being a football CEO is knowing the environment you operate in, including the political one. Everything about last Monday: six free shirts with "Farage 10" and "To Mark", all the publicity, suggest Ashton is a Reform fan-boy who got exactly what he wanted.
Running a decent size, high-profile org like ITFC makes Ashton useful to Reform in being a friendly presence near Farage's stomping ground in Clacton, and puts him head and shoulders ahead of most Reform supporters when it comes to handing out jobs in future. Worth trying to bail-out through more lies. [Post edited 5 Apr 11:52]
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Looking at your past threads its very clear you have a real vendetta against Ashton. | | | |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 07:26 - Apr 6 with 697 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
Even if the explanation that they took more than a week to come up with, i.e. that the meeting was about the football regulator, that is still a cause for concern. We know that Ashton voted against the introuction of a regulator, something that the Football Supporters Association have been campaigning for for years.
Just for context, this is the purpose of the FSA:
"The FSA is the national, democratic, representative body for football supporters in England and Wales."
"We are the leading advocates for supporter ownership, better fan engagement, cheaper ticket prices, the choice to stand at the match, protecting fan rights, good governance, diversity, and all types of supporter empowerment.
"Football is for all and we work closely with organisations such as Kick It Out and Level Playing Field to that end. We have supported the establishment of scores of BAME and LGBTQ+ fans’ groups over the past few seasons."
So presumably the narrative is that Ashton wanted to meet Farage to express his support for getting rid of the regulator, and for suppressing the rights for supporters of all types. Things like constantly changing Kick off times, distribution of TV money, facilities and spaces for disabled fans and their helpers. Because those are the types of things the regulator was brought in for, to bring some sense against billionaire corporations and owners. Nice one Mark, timed perfectly 2 days after our Foundation fixture. |  |
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 07:50 - Apr 6 with 640 views | DJR |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 18:59 - Apr 5 by WeWereZombies |
Not sure of the provenance of East Anglian Bylines, or how influential they are, but the article might be the most comprehensive yet on the subject (sorry, Phil) and has me wondering about how one of our investors, Bright Path Sports Partners (specialises in strategic investments in professional sports teams, venues, media, and gaming. Notable investments include a 40% stake in Ipswich Town Football Club. They partner with Native American tribes, family offices, and institutional investors.) can continue investing in our Club if we fail to take decisive action.
As an aside Bright Path is an interesting name:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ |
Good sleuthing.
I think it was said by Phil that the ownership were not Trump supporters and in the case of Bright Path that is clearly the case given this from Phil's write-up of their investment.
Bright Path Sports Partners' website outlines their mission statement: “Bright Path Sports Partners is the first ever private equity and advisory firm exclusively dedicated to raising and deploying Native American capital into professional sports franchises, facilities and ancillary opportunities.
Bright Path brings lucrative professional sports and related opportunities to a historically underrepresented class (Native Americans), while meeting the continuing trend in professional sports to advance equity and inclusion from ownership to front office and beyond.
Bright Path combines a diversity and social equity mission with more than 75 combined years of experience in sports law, finance, management and Native American investment.”
Inclusion, diversity and social equity are anathema to Farage, so why Ashton went anywhere near him given Bright Path's ethos is a complete mystery.
I think it means that his days are definitely numbered.
It is also the case that his actions have presumably blown a hole in Ipswich's City of Culture bid. [Post edited 6 Apr 9:47]
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| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:12 - Apr 6 with 476 views | grow_our_own |
More press coverage this weekend. This time by lawyer/PR expert in EADT: https://archive.is/FGj6W | | | |
| Farage visit: a story that still doesn’t add up on 11:15 - Apr 6 with 463 views | backwaywhen |
Match day get back under your rock . | | | |
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