| Sick in the head on 11:20 - Apr 9 with 641 views | positivity |
| Sick in the head on 11:12 - Apr 9 by MattinLondon |
I hear a lot about people offsetting their carbon footprint and so I have a couple of questions.
1. Using a football analogy, in order for carbon offsetting to be a ‘score-draw’ how many trees actually need to be planted?
2. Does being a vegan or pescetarian really offset the amount of carbon she’ll use flying per year? |
1. no amount really, as when we hit various heat triggers, those trees are more likely to release co2, plus be more susceptible to forest fires, which obviously releases all the sunk co2.
it's better to fund schemes to give power to people who can't afford it and currently use fossil fuels, eg solar panels.
better still just to cut your usage
2. a return flight to turkey is about 1t, switching to a vegan diet is about 1t, so maybe one holiday a year is equivalent? (figures from a quick internet search, so don't take them as gospel!) [Post edited 9 Apr 11:26]
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| Sick in the head on 11:23 - Apr 9 with 634 views | positivity |
| Sick in the head on 11:15 - Apr 9 by GavTWTD |
I think having a holiday abroad is something we all have a right to. It does make you more grounded and less isolated. There are loads of advantages. However having that many flights (the OP) sounds like hell to me. How many hours at airports? I think a possible answer is that there could be an additional tax to pay on flights, but not on the first 2 or 4. Or maybe a rising tariff based on how many flights you've had that year. That way people wouldn't be penalised for having one (or two) holidays a year. Money goes towards maintaining the rail network or greener policies. I've not had a holiday since before covid but might get some sun this summer. |
holidays abroad don't have to be via plane; if aviation wasn't so heavily subsidized, the costs would be much closer to trains/cars
we should just stop subsidizing aviation fuel, may also have a knock-on effect of more people holidaying in the uk, boosting our economy. | |
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| Sick in the head on 11:38 - Apr 9 with 590 views | Daninthecampo |
A 2 hour flight is about 250- 500kg CO2e per person
Having a child is around 58 tonnes per year!
Maybe people should have less or even no kids like me! | | | |
| Sick in the head on 11:41 - Apr 9 with 576 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Sick in the head on 11:12 - Apr 9 by MattinLondon |
I hear a lot about people offsetting their carbon footprint and so I have a couple of questions.
1. Using a football analogy, in order for carbon offsetting to be a ‘score-draw’ how many trees actually need to be planted?
2. Does being a vegan or pescetarian really offset the amount of carbon she’ll use flying per year? |
Six short-haul return flights will produce approximately 0.9 to 1.5 tonnes ( kg) of
per passenger.
Eating a plant based diet save approximately 0.8 to 2.1 tons of equivalent per year.
So yes. Her diet offsets the flights she takes. |  |
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| Sick in the head on 11:41 - Apr 9 with 577 views | Ryorry |
| Sick in the head on 11:23 - Apr 9 by positivity |
holidays abroad don't have to be via plane; if aviation wasn't so heavily subsidized, the costs would be much closer to trains/cars
we should just stop subsidizing aviation fuel, may also have a knock-on effect of more people holidaying in the uk, boosting our economy. |
Quite. Learn to sail, everybody!
And GPs could prescribe pedalo holidays for their overweight patients≥ |  |
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| Sick in the head on 11:53 - Apr 9 with 551 views | hoppy |
| Sick in the head on 11:38 - Apr 9 by Daninthecampo |
A 2 hour flight is about 250- 500kg CO2e per person
Having a child is around 58 tonnes per year!
Maybe people should have less or even no kids like me! |
But when you have a kid, you just get what comes out... you can't specify you don't want one like Daninthecampo. |  |
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| Sick in the head on 11:54 - Apr 9 with 552 views | Churchman |
I friend of mine does lots of day trips. Goes to airports and doesn’t venture out of them, loving travel, flying, the airport buzz and all that goes with it.
I find it very odd. The flying bit is just about tolerable if tedious (and that’s from somebody who has a vague idea how to do it and for who aviation is no 1 interest), airports are places from hell and the travel to/from to be endured.
This year’s flying itinerary: Germany next week for the latest Nazi tour, Mauritius in Sept, Portugal golfing in Oct. The rest of my trips are by car or in the case of heathen Scotland train (do I need a passport? Anyhow, I’ll be able to tell them how Cumberland defeated the Jacobites at Culloden 280 years ago). Cricket trip - Taunton by train.
Oh and I’m contemplating doing a Spitfire flight (bucket list). |  | | |
| Sick in the head on 12:16 - Apr 9 with 525 views | NthQldITFC |
| Sick in the head on 11:38 - Apr 9 by Daninthecampo |
A 2 hour flight is about 250- 500kg CO2e per person
Having a child is around 58 tonnes per year!
Maybe people should have less or even no kids like me! |
Luckily very few people have kids like you!  |  |
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| Sick in the head on 12:25 - Apr 9 with 512 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Sick in the head on 12:16 - Apr 9 by NthQldITFC |
Luckily very few people have kids like you! |
Adopting a global vegetarian diet could reduce food-related emissions by up to 63%, saving approximately 5.5 billion tonnes of equivalent per year. So if there are any meat eaters on here who genuinely care about climate change, do the right thing. | |
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| Sick in the head on 12:33 - Apr 9 with 504 views | NthQldITFC |
| Sick in the head on 12:25 - Apr 9 by GlasgowBlue |
Adopting a global vegetarian diet could reduce food-related emissions by up to 63%, saving approximately 5.5 billion tonnes of equivalent per year. So if there are any meat eaters on here who genuinely care about climate change, do the right thing. |
I'll hold my hands up and admit my guilt on this very important point. I hardly ever eat red meat, but I do eat pork occasionally, chicken and fish. Plus a whole lotta insects as I'm a mouth breather on me bike! | |
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| Sick in the head on 12:34 - Apr 9 with 504 views | baxterbasics |
| Sick in the head on 09:29 - Apr 9 by giant_stow |
Maybe the real culprit is an economy where flights are cheap enough to do this? Or maybe flight should be rationed somehow? No idea... |
This is what is going to happen. The poor (and eventually the middle class) will be priced out of air travel, private vehicle ownership, and eating any meat not derived from bugs.
The 'haves' will continue enjoying these luxuries unaffected. |  |
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| Sick in the head on 12:38 - Apr 9 with 499 views | NthQldITFC |
| Sick in the head on 12:34 - Apr 9 by baxterbasics |
This is what is going to happen. The poor (and eventually the middle class) will be priced out of air travel, private vehicle ownership, and eating any meat not derived from bugs.
The 'haves' will continue enjoying these luxuries unaffected. |
And then law and order will break down completely so the robot dogs will be released to protect corporate interests until there's no economic value in anything.
Ho-hum. | |
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| Sick in the head on 12:43 - Apr 9 with 490 views | hoppy |
| Sick in the head on 12:38 - Apr 9 by NthQldITFC |
And then law and order will break down completely so the robot dogs will be released to protect corporate interests until there's no economic value in anything.
Ho-hum. |
Sounds like a promising Netflix series tho. | |
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| Sick in the head on 13:19 - Apr 9 with 466 views | solemio |
| Sick in the head on 11:54 - Apr 9 by Churchman |
I friend of mine does lots of day trips. Goes to airports and doesn’t venture out of them, loving travel, flying, the airport buzz and all that goes with it.
I find it very odd. The flying bit is just about tolerable if tedious (and that’s from somebody who has a vague idea how to do it and for who aviation is no 1 interest), airports are places from hell and the travel to/from to be endured.
This year’s flying itinerary: Germany next week for the latest Nazi tour, Mauritius in Sept, Portugal golfing in Oct. The rest of my trips are by car or in the case of heathen Scotland train (do I need a passport? Anyhow, I’ll be able to tell them how Cumberland defeated the Jacobites at Culloden 280 years ago). Cricket trip - Taunton by train.
Oh and I’m contemplating doing a Spitfire flight (bucket list). |
And there was me thinking I was the only person on TWTD who supports ITFC and Somerset CCC. | | | |
| Sick in the head on 13:20 - Apr 9 with 462 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Sick in the head on 10:07 - Apr 9 by NthQldITFC |
I'm conflicted on this. I agree with everything you say there, but I still have this fundamental set of beliefs:
1. We have all heard about the science behind Climate Change
2. It doesn't require much of a brain to understand the basics
3. Most of us aren't making any effort to change our ways
4. The threat is genuinely existential to society and possibly imminently so
The buck is passed to 'governments', but by and large governments respond to voter pressure.
You and I, we, us - we're not doing enough - we're passing the buck.
We have personal responsibility and the disingenuous nature of comments like those of the woman in the article (and apologists for business as usual from posters here) - I don't assume any of them are too stupid to understand the basics - these comments enable governments to ignore or kick the can down the very short road.
Meanwhile stored energy builds up in the oceans and it will inevitably fk us at some point unless we stand on the brakes.
Them's the laws of physics, not some pissy political argument or trivial consumer rights issue. |
“The buck is passed to 'governments', but by and large governments respond to voter pressure.”
Where is that pressure going to come from though? Whilst people have celebrated improved support for the Green Party, UK aviation passenger numbers continue to grow faster than the population, suggesting more people are flying, and more regularly.
Apparently it was a record number of UK passenger numbers in 2025, and projected to continue to grow. So if anything, the evidence is that without government intervention we’ll continue to go the wrong way. | | | |
| Sick in the head on 17:29 - Apr 9 with 379 views | Daninthecampo |
| Sick in the head on 12:16 - Apr 9 by NthQldITFC |
Luckily very few people have kids like you! |
Whilst my comment was made in slight jest! In reality Overpopulation is whats really killing Earth, raping it of its natural resources,destroying the countryside and the animals that live there just for more houses,factories and food production etc and the extra pollution that comes with.
This is partly why we chose to not have kids and if people really care about the world they should consider if or how many kids that they have!
Now to continue packing for my 8 flight holiday coming up this month! Ducking for cover😂 | | | |
| Sick in the head on 17:41 - Apr 9 with 369 views | baxterbasics |
| Sick in the head on 17:29 - Apr 9 by Daninthecampo |
Whilst my comment was made in slight jest! In reality Overpopulation is whats really killing Earth, raping it of its natural resources,destroying the countryside and the animals that live there just for more houses,factories and food production etc and the extra pollution that comes with.
This is partly why we chose to not have kids and if people really care about the world they should consider if or how many kids that they have!
Now to continue packing for my 8 flight holiday coming up this month! Ducking for cover😂 |
This is widely believed but it's a fallacy. A red herring.
World population is about to peak then go into decline.
Which presents it's own set of problems.
Have more kids, peeps. | |
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| Sick in the head on 17:45 - Apr 9 with 354 views | positivity |
| Sick in the head on 17:41 - Apr 9 by baxterbasics |
This is widely believed but it's a fallacy. A red herring.
World population is about to peak then go into decline.
Which presents it's own set of problems.
Have more kids, peeps. |
if we continue to ramp up the population whilst global warming continues to make less of the world inhabitable, then we're going to see far, far more migration to temperate areas. | |
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| Sick in the head on 17:57 - Apr 9 with 341 views | Daninthecampo |
| Sick in the head on 17:41 - Apr 9 by baxterbasics |
This is widely believed but it's a fallacy. A red herring.
World population is about to peak then go into decline.
Which presents it's own set of problems.
Have more kids, peeps. |
No its 2 separate issues, environmentaly im 100% correct
You're referring to the issue with a growing old age population and not enough young workers paying into the tax system to support them. Spain is going to lose almost 25% of its population in the next 50 years!
Another example of why the world is screwed! | | | |
| Sick in the head on 18:12 - Apr 9 with 330 views | NthQldITFC |
| Sick in the head on 17:41 - Apr 9 by baxterbasics |
This is widely believed but it's a fallacy. A red herring.
World population is about to peak then go into decline.
Which presents it's own set of problems.
Have more kids, peeps. |
It's not the number of people per se that's the problem, it's a function of the product of the number of people times something that might loosely be termed 'standard of living'.
If 8 billion people were to live at a comfortable but not excessive standard things might be fine, but of course the have-nots rightly want something approaching what everyone else has got and the greedy (majority?) just want more and more all the time.
Fkn lemmings.
Nobody will tolerate their standard of living going down, so the population needs to go down instead - is an approximation.
Don't have more kids, peeps, the world is fked and they won't thank you for it. | |
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| Sick in the head on 19:19 - Apr 9 with 309 views | ITFCson |
I’m confused - what’s sick about it? Good on the lad and credit to the Mum. | | | |
| Sick in the head on 19:24 - Apr 9 with 305 views | J2BLUE |
Very judgemental.
It says flying is responsible for 2.4% of global greenhouse gas emissions and 8% of UK emissions.
What percentage does that become if you remove private jets?
Are you vegan? Not trying to catch you out, I am just intrigued due to your level of concern about this issue (I realise that's poorly worded, but hopefully you get the point). |  |
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| Sick in the head on 10:14 - Apr 10 with 211 views | marcus1642 |
You will own nothing and be happy. You will live in 15 minute ghettos, won't be able to have a car, and will be totally dependant on state handouts.
Welcome to the far left future. |  | | |
| Sick in the head on 10:24 - Apr 10 with 197 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Sick in the head on 19:24 - Apr 9 by J2BLUE |
Very judgemental.
It says flying is responsible for 2.4% of global greenhouse gas emissions and 8% of UK emissions.
What percentage does that become if you remove private jets?
Are you vegan? Not trying to catch you out, I am just intrigued due to your level of concern about this issue (I realise that's poorly worded, but hopefully you get the point). |
Anyone who seriously claims to care about climate change should be on a meat free diet. | |
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| Sick in the head on 12:22 - Apr 10 with 147 views | positivity |
| Sick in the head on 10:14 - Apr 10 by marcus1642 |
You will own nothing and be happy. You will live in 15 minute ghettos, won't be able to have a car, and will be totally dependant on state handouts.
Welcome to the far left future. |
that's exactly where the fossil fuel lobby and the faragists are leading us.
huge swathes of the world made uninhabitable, leading to mass immigration to the few temperate areas of the planet remaining
fossil fuels are massively accelerating immigration | |
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