| Are we still favourites? 19:58 - Apr 19 with 2342 views | coote |
For second???
I’d say yes. |  | | |  |
| Are we still favourites? on 20:45 - Apr 19 with 1814 views | jasondozzell |
Definitely.
We just want to go into that Saints game with wins against Charlton and West Brom. We can do that. |  | | |
| Are we still favourites? on 20:49 - Apr 19 with 1773 views | Parky |
Yes, 4/9 on favourites on SkyBet.
Southampton 3/1
Millwall 9/2
Boro 22/1 |  | | |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:05 - Apr 19 with 1744 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we still favourites? on 20:49 - Apr 19 by Parky |
Yes, 4/9 on favourites on SkyBet.
Southampton 3/1
Millwall 9/2
Boro 22/1 |
Southampton were 25-1 after the Norwich game. I thought they’d be closer to even money but I guess there’s basically been no money on them over the course of the season until recently. |  |
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| Are we still favourites? on 21:08 - Apr 19 with 1717 views | Parky |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:05 - Apr 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Southampton were 25-1 after the Norwich game. I thought they’d be closer to even money but I guess there’s basically been no money on them over the course of the season until recently. |
Yeah, saw someone back them at 33/1 after the Norwich game! | | | |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:08 - Apr 19 with 1710 views | J2BLUE |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:05 - Apr 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Southampton were 25-1 after the Norwich game. I thought they’d be closer to even money but I guess there’s basically been no money on them over the course of the season until recently. |
If they were considered a close to evens shot that price would be smashed down very quickly. |  |
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| Are we still favourites? on 21:09 - Apr 19 with 1702 views | Tonytown |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:08 - Apr 19 by Parky |
Yeah, saw someone back them at 33/1 after the Norwich game! |
I got 33/1 with Paddy Power about 10 days ago | | | |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:12 - Apr 19 with 1681 views | Kievthegreat |
Using Opta predictions rather than bookies, we're still favourites, but down to about 60%, while Saints and Millwall are about 20% and Boro are on 3%.
Before this weekend, it was 72%, 10%, 11%, 7% for Us, Saints, Millwall and Boro.
Us and Southampton have the hardest run-ins, mostly because we play each other, while Boro and Millwall have the easiest. Especially now that Boro have played us. |  | | |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:17 - Apr 19 with 1645 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:09 - Apr 19 by Tonytown |
I got 33/1 with Paddy Power about 10 days ago |
I was thinking about it at 25s just as a consolation prize but knowing my luck Millwall would then do it and it felt like bad karma anyway to bet against us, so I’ll just moan on here instead! | |
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| Are we still favourites? on 21:18 - Apr 19 with 1636 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:08 - Apr 19 by J2BLUE |
If they were considered a close to evens shot that price would be smashed down very quickly. |
Yeah let’s see tomorrow I guess, in my head that’s what they should be at, what says you? | |
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| Are we still favourites? on 21:20 - Apr 19 with 1619 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Are we still favourites? on 20:45 - Apr 19 by jasondozzell |
Definitely.
We just want to go into that Saints game with wins against Charlton and West Brom. We can do that. |
You’re right - we can do that.
But are you honestly confident that we will do that?
I’m not. They look out on their feet to me. | |
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| Are we still favourites? on 21:22 - Apr 19 with 1596 views | jasondozzell |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:20 - Apr 19 by southnorfolkblue |
You’re right - we can do that.
But are you honestly confident that we will do that?
I’m not. They look out on their feet to me. |
We will do it.
What does Rommers always say? Believe!
I think people are underplaying how well we played today. Boro are a good team.
We will attack these two away games now. | | | |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:27 - Apr 19 with 1562 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:20 - Apr 19 by southnorfolkblue |
You’re right - we can do that.
But are you honestly confident that we will do that?
I’m not. They look out on their feet to me. |
I have my doubts, I think if Southampton can win to overtake us they will, it’s setting up perfectly for them to do that and almost feels written at this point. Their rotation is miles better than ours, they haven’t dropped off by changing CM for instance. If we beat Charlton I’m clinging onto the hope that will give us a lift to squeak by WBA and achieve the 6 points.
In terms of Southampton, they’re so much better than with their strikers and ability to switch things around. I ultimately think that late winner yesterday will prove pivotal by 1 point and we will finish 3rd and go to Hull or Wrexham. Hope I’m wrong! [Post edited 19 Apr 21:28]
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| Are we still favourites? on 21:30 - Apr 19 with 1535 views | jasondozzell |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:27 - Apr 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I have my doubts, I think if Southampton can win to overtake us they will, it’s setting up perfectly for them to do that and almost feels written at this point. Their rotation is miles better than ours, they haven’t dropped off by changing CM for instance. If we beat Charlton I’m clinging onto the hope that will give us a lift to squeak by WBA and achieve the 6 points.
In terms of Southampton, they’re so much better than with their strikers and ability to switch things around. I ultimately think that late winner yesterday will prove pivotal by 1 point and we will finish 3rd and go to Hull or Wrexham. Hope I’m wrong! [Post edited 19 Apr 21:28]
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O ye of little faith!
Saints aren't all that.
There's a reason we're ahead of them.
Hold your nerve. | | | |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:35 - Apr 19 with 1501 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:30 - Apr 19 by jasondozzell |
O ye of little faith!
Saints aren't all that.
There's a reason we're ahead of them.
Hold your nerve. |
It’s just what my eyes are telling me at the moment unfortunately.
Doesn’t change the fact I’ll be a nervous wreck and basically kicking every ball from afar. Let’s hope these last few games were our mini wobble we can find enough! | |
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| Are we still favourites? on 21:58 - Apr 19 with 1380 views | J2BLUE |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:18 - Apr 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Yeah let’s see tomorrow I guess, in my head that’s what they should be at, what says you? |
Very hard to price it from within one of the camps.
People dismiss any positivity as straw clutching but football is crazy.
I think 4 is about right for Southampton. Can they keep up this relentless pace? Will City beat them comfortably and break the spell? Will it be like buses? If they need a win at Preston people seem to think they will get it easily. Maybe, but who wants an away team promotion celebration on their pitch? Southampton will likely be evens (or near to it) to beat us. If you doubt that, think about today. Boro in poor form. Town only lost 1/21 before today at home yet Boro were 3.3 to win. So evens is short. Oh and conceding four goals didn't please Hodgson. He's not sending Bristol City to St Marys for an open game.
If we then look at Millwall, they look to have favourable games for their final two. Their big challenge is Stoke. Not claiming Stoke are world beaters but they are unbeaten at home in the league in their last six league games. They have only lost 6/21 home games. Five of their six home losses have been by a single goal. I am hopeful they can get something.
Then finally, our lot. It's gutting Charlton didn't hang on for the win against Wednesday as it's likely they would be safe by Wednesday. As it is, they could be all but safe. My biggest concern is that they are 6 points clear with two games left to play as their goal difference isn't much better than Oxford. So will they look to stifle us knowing it works well and grind out that point?
There's so many variables. I am sure we will all spend hours staring at the league table and remaining fixtures before Millwall and Southampton play their matches Tuesday.
We have to beat Charlton
Then we go to West Brom who will HOPEFULLY be safe by then
Win those two and it's a home game against QPR for all the marbles, and that's if we're writing off the Southampton game which would be odd really. | |
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| Are we still favourites? on 22:04 - Apr 19 with 1339 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:58 - Apr 19 by J2BLUE |
Very hard to price it from within one of the camps.
People dismiss any positivity as straw clutching but football is crazy.
I think 4 is about right for Southampton. Can they keep up this relentless pace? Will City beat them comfortably and break the spell? Will it be like buses? If they need a win at Preston people seem to think they will get it easily. Maybe, but who wants an away team promotion celebration on their pitch? Southampton will likely be evens (or near to it) to beat us. If you doubt that, think about today. Boro in poor form. Town only lost 1/21 before today at home yet Boro were 3.3 to win. So evens is short. Oh and conceding four goals didn't please Hodgson. He's not sending Bristol City to St Marys for an open game.
If we then look at Millwall, they look to have favourable games for their final two. Their big challenge is Stoke. Not claiming Stoke are world beaters but they are unbeaten at home in the league in their last six league games. They have only lost 6/21 home games. Five of their six home losses have been by a single goal. I am hopeful they can get something.
Then finally, our lot. It's gutting Charlton didn't hang on for the win against Wednesday as it's likely they would be safe by Wednesday. As it is, they could be all but safe. My biggest concern is that they are 6 points clear with two games left to play as their goal difference isn't much better than Oxford. So will they look to stifle us knowing it works well and grind out that point?
There's so many variables. I am sure we will all spend hours staring at the league table and remaining fixtures before Millwall and Southampton play their matches Tuesday.
We have to beat Charlton
Then we go to West Brom who will HOPEFULLY be safe by then
Win those two and it's a home game against QPR for all the marbles, and that's if we're writing off the Southampton game which would be odd really. |
One game at a time.
Every win helps us get there. Ultimately we just have to match what the others do. Bristol City and Stoke doing us favours would be nice but I won't hold my breath on that. |  |
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| Are we still favourites? on 22:06 - Apr 19 with 1327 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we still favourites? on 21:58 - Apr 19 by J2BLUE |
Very hard to price it from within one of the camps.
People dismiss any positivity as straw clutching but football is crazy.
I think 4 is about right for Southampton. Can they keep up this relentless pace? Will City beat them comfortably and break the spell? Will it be like buses? If they need a win at Preston people seem to think they will get it easily. Maybe, but who wants an away team promotion celebration on their pitch? Southampton will likely be evens (or near to it) to beat us. If you doubt that, think about today. Boro in poor form. Town only lost 1/21 before today at home yet Boro were 3.3 to win. So evens is short. Oh and conceding four goals didn't please Hodgson. He's not sending Bristol City to St Marys for an open game.
If we then look at Millwall, they look to have favourable games for their final two. Their big challenge is Stoke. Not claiming Stoke are world beaters but they are unbeaten at home in the league in their last six league games. They have only lost 6/21 home games. Five of their six home losses have been by a single goal. I am hopeful they can get something.
Then finally, our lot. It's gutting Charlton didn't hang on for the win against Wednesday as it's likely they would be safe by Wednesday. As it is, they could be all but safe. My biggest concern is that they are 6 points clear with two games left to play as their goal difference isn't much better than Oxford. So will they look to stifle us knowing it works well and grind out that point?
There's so many variables. I am sure we will all spend hours staring at the league table and remaining fixtures before Millwall and Southampton play their matches Tuesday.
We have to beat Charlton
Then we go to West Brom who will HOPEFULLY be safe by then
Win those two and it's a home game against QPR for all the marbles, and that's if we're writing off the Southampton game which would be odd really. |
I’ll stand by I don’t think Milwall will win their last 4 games, they’ve ticked one off but I think they drop one somewhere. Southampton have got down to just two games and us now and don’t see them dropping points against Bristol or Preston so it might need to be us that stop them if we don’t win the next two. | |
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| Are we still favourites? on 22:07 - Apr 19 with 1320 views | gainsboroughblue |
I reckon so. We are still in the position that Boro, Millwall and Saints want to be in.
85 gets us up still but I really think we are going to need them as I can't see Millwall dropping points in their 3 remaining games (thank god for the goal difference) and Southampton, well, yesterday was the day for me if they were going to drop points ahead of our head to head.
The margin for error is shrinking though. This time last week, we needed a PPG of 1.66 in six games. Now, we need 2.25 in four. [Post edited 19 Apr 22:08]
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| Are we still favourites? on 22:12 - Apr 19 with 1272 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we still favourites? on 22:07 - Apr 19 by gainsboroughblue |
I reckon so. We are still in the position that Boro, Millwall and Saints want to be in.
85 gets us up still but I really think we are going to need them as I can't see Millwall dropping points in their 3 remaining games (thank god for the goal difference) and Southampton, well, yesterday was the day for me if they were going to drop points ahead of our head to head.
The margin for error is shrinking though. This time last week, we needed a PPG of 1.66 in six games. Now, we need 2.25 in four. [Post edited 19 Apr 22:08]
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Our midfield looks like it’s on fumes right now, Southampton are switching it up and not dropping off very much, if at all, I think it the big difference. | |
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| Are we still favourites? on 22:13 - Apr 19 with 1267 views | SomethingBlue |
Absolutely. That’s not the same as saying we’ll do it, but we are definitely favourites. | |
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| Are we still favourites? on 22:21 - Apr 19 with 1215 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Are we still favourites? on 22:12 - Apr 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Our midfield looks like it’s on fumes right now, Southampton are switching it up and not dropping off very much, if at all, I think it the big difference. |
That's my concern too. We've looked gassed in the second half of too many games recently. Southampton have played the same, if not, more minutes and are powering through. Momentum is playing a huge part no doubt but I do wonder why we appear so leggy. Even after that extended break around Easter time, we had a jaded look about us.
Hopefully a combination 90 (or hopefully 120) minutes of chasing Rodri, Semenyo, Doku et al and maybe a bit of pressure of the head to head will be more of a leveller. A bit like Norwich since Clement arrived, they've had the element of playing with freedom and a lack of pressure. Things get very real indeed next Tuesday and it's a different game entirely. We have to do our bit though. It's no good if we repeat our Fratton Park trick at Charlton or WBA. | |
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| Are we still favourites? on 22:28 - Apr 19 with 1176 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we still favourites? on 22:21 - Apr 19 by gainsboroughblue |
That's my concern too. We've looked gassed in the second half of too many games recently. Southampton have played the same, if not, more minutes and are powering through. Momentum is playing a huge part no doubt but I do wonder why we appear so leggy. Even after that extended break around Easter time, we had a jaded look about us.
Hopefully a combination 90 (or hopefully 120) minutes of chasing Rodri, Semenyo, Doku et al and maybe a bit of pressure of the head to head will be more of a leveller. A bit like Norwich since Clement arrived, they've had the element of playing with freedom and a lack of pressure. Things get very real indeed next Tuesday and it's a different game entirely. We have to do our bit though. It's no good if we repeat our Fratton Park trick at Charlton or WBA. |
Between Bragg, Charles, Downes and Jander they got two top pairings.
We’ve had to flog Matusiwa and it’s beginning to show. | |
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| Are we still favourites? on 22:35 - Apr 19 with 1148 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Are we still favourites? on 22:28 - Apr 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Between Bragg, Charles, Downes and Jander they got two top pairings.
We’ve had to flog Matusiwa and it’s beginning to show. |
Yep. I've a lot of time for Jack Taylor and this is no slight on him at all, but him being the best player to sit alongside him is not a good indictment on our recruitment. Yes, recruitment again. | |
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| Are we still favourites? on 22:37 - Apr 19 with 1135 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we still favourites? on 22:35 - Apr 19 by gainsboroughblue |
Yep. I've a lot of time for Jack Taylor and this is no slight on him at all, but him being the best player to sit alongside him is not a good indictment on our recruitment. Yes, recruitment again. |
Yeah awful really giving the financial situation we’ve been in. That will be the reason why if we don’t go up. | |
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| Are we still favourites? on 22:45 - Apr 19 with 1100 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Are we still favourites? on 22:37 - Apr 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Yeah awful really giving the financial situation we’ve been in. That will be the reason why if we don’t go up. |
The recruitment thing is interesting. I remember saying a few months ago if we go up it will be inspite of our summer and jan window purchases.
I get why people would say thats daft as if we go up then the recruitment did a good job. But I think it can be a mix of both imo.
If we go up we will still have the fact that taylor had played a big part in it which is imo a terrible position to be in. Thats not a slight on him because hes a solid player but imo hes a perfect cover cm. But the fact hes performed better than purchased cms other than azor is a shambles really.
Then youve got nunez and mehmeti fighting over a position neither of them suit
Akpom sitting on the bench awaiting his obligated transfer to us for us to sell him on
Plus the fact our strikers have missed the most chances of the league together and somehow we felt those two were our best options with all the funds we had available. And then theres egeli who unfortunately makes us look like we have 10 men through no fault of his own.
When you think of the shambles or the recruitment side of things. Its incredible we are actually still in the top 2 picture. |  |
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