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Jaden 09:33 - Apr 20 with 2847 viewspingu67

Perhaps i'm being a little harsh but i'm unsure how much he actually offers?

He rarely seems to beat his man, appears very lightweight and apart from the occasional top class finish he doesn't appear to contribute that much

Jack clarke appears to offer more but is often put on the bench or shifted to the right to accompany jaden
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Jaden on 11:46 - Apr 20 with 521 viewsPioneerBlue

Im going to humour the questioner. He is coming back from injury, before that we was dipping a bit but he had been in champ POTY form. He works very hard off the ball and allows Leif to play the way he does or has done when fully fit. He has scored ~10 goals this season for an under firing top two team.

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Jaden on 13:34 - Apr 20 with 451 viewsGarv

Jaden on 11:24 - Apr 20 by Libero

Broadhead was so physically fragile that he literally couldn’t play two games in a week…


Yeah, that's clearly his main flaw and that's why Philogene will play for longer at a higher level.

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Jaden on 13:42 - Apr 20 with 445 viewsOldFart71

Against Boro they set up to stop Philogene but he still managed to bring a very good save out of their keeper.
Admittedly he is not absolutely flying at the moment and seems more capable at home than away for whatever reason.
Nunez for instance has had three poor games on the trot. Hirst had a really sticky patch and Davis last season was way off.
These people aren't machines. You don't programme them, switch them on and they go. But we all expect that when we sometimes get up in the morning,God willing at my age and don't feel 100% or have had a domestic or some other issue which makes it a crap day.
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Jaden on 14:18 - Apr 20 with 427 viewsMattinLondon

Jaden on 13:42 - Apr 20 by OldFart71

Against Boro they set up to stop Philogene but he still managed to bring a very good save out of their keeper.
Admittedly he is not absolutely flying at the moment and seems more capable at home than away for whatever reason.
Nunez for instance has had three poor games on the trot. Hirst had a really sticky patch and Davis last season was way off.
These people aren't machines. You don't programme them, switch them on and they go. But we all expect that when we sometimes get up in the morning,God willing at my age and don't feel 100% or have had a domestic or some other issue which makes it a crap day.


Top players are consistent - yes they still have off-days but what sets a top player apart from an good player who is still capable of producing moments, is that they regularly come good.

At the moment I would say that Philogene is a good Championship player capable of producing moments but who is quite inconsistent.
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Jaden on 14:26 - Apr 20 with 419 viewsE_I_E_I_E_I_O

Watch there 2nd goal yesterday. He stops running vs Brittain for a second and if he would not have the 2nd goal would not have been conceded.
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Jaden on 14:43 - Apr 20 with 404 viewsBroadbent23

Jaden has weapons with his swivel turn and rocket shots on goal but needs some more killer moves to improve his game. Since having come back from injury his performance has been a bit lack luster compared to the beginning of the season. Maybe because he is not 100% fit or opposing defenders are closing him down quickly as he is dangerous in the box. Generally we have talented players this season you haven't fully functioned all at the same time. Sheffield Utd (home) and Norwich (home) being the only exceptions. We need a functioning fighting squad for Southampton.

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Jaden on 15:53 - Apr 20 with 361 viewsVaughan8

Jaden on 14:26 - Apr 20 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O

Watch there 2nd goal yesterday. He stops running vs Brittain for a second and if he would not have the 2nd goal would not have been conceded.


I'd say that's a bit harsh. If it wasn't for Davis' sh!te pass they wouldn't have even got that chance. That pass turned attack into defence in a second. Brittain had forward momentum an is no slouch.

OShea is there to cover so i'm not sure he needs to be there. We just weren't very good at defending.
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Jaden on 18:27 - Apr 20 with 325 viewsblueoutlook

Jaden on 09:51 - Apr 20 by homer_123

The 10 role.

You need a baller in there - a player that can pick a pass and unlock. Jaden can play, great first touch, can def finish but I am not sure he has the range of passing and moreover no evidence to suggest he can find space like a good 10 can by dropping between the lines, drifting and being difficult to pick up.

Nunez 'should' be that player, he can find space, he can pick a pass but there is something that isn't quite right about him playing there.

For me, the two players that we have that would be our current most natural 10s are Mehmeti and Egeli. Though this will be where Egeli ends up eventually maybe too early for him.

In hindsight - we seriously miss Chappers.


Mehmeti, like Sammy and Akpom isn’t a 10. He is a left sided player. McKenna will kill his game just like he has Sammy and Akpom.
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Jaden on 18:37 - Apr 20 with 315 viewscoote

Jaden on 11:32 - Apr 20 by BlueOura

I assume this is a poor attempt at humour?


Nope!!!

Never seen him have a good game. Has had moments but never an actual decent game.

League 1 player in a few years mark my words.
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Jaden on 21:10 - Apr 20 with 277 viewsE_I_E_I_E_I_O

Jaden on 15:53 - Apr 20 by Vaughan8

I'd say that's a bit harsh. If it wasn't for Davis' sh!te pass they wouldn't have even got that chance. That pass turned attack into defence in a second. Brittain had forward momentum an is no slouch.

OShea is there to cover so i'm not sure he needs to be there. We just weren't very good at defending.


Maybe a little harsh but these fine margains count. Yes Davis was at fault but not via lack of effort. And in that moment Philogene needed a slight extra effort to cover mistakes made by others. I’m not even having a go….just pointing out him stopping to run back at full throttle in that moment likely helped cost us the goal.
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Jaden on 21:19 - Apr 20 with 270 viewsBlueOura

Jaden on 18:37 - Apr 20 by coote

Nope!!!

Never seen him have a good game. Has had moments but never an actual decent game.

League 1 player in a few years mark my words.


You were actually being serious? Wow.

Well in that case I will mark your words. My hunch however, is that a wide player that has played in the EPL and twice reached double figures for goals in the Championship is probably a little too good for league 1.
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Jaden on 22:02 - Apr 20 with 246 viewsitfcsuth

Both are flash players, produce moments but have rarely put a real 90 minute stellar performance together, possibly two each.

Look terrible fits for us and lack any level of consistency. Have been a huge hinderance to Leif Davis game down that left side as well.

The most frustrating thing is Philogene probably has all the qualities to play in the inside left hand pocket, the “Broadhead” role, with his tight control and finishing quality, but he’s constantly wide left which really doesn’t suit him with his lack of explosive pace, and takes away all of Leif’s quality.
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Jaden on 22:07 - Apr 20 with 240 viewsbournemouthblue

Clarke and Philogene have different qualities

Philogene is probably better for low block sides, given his ability to wriggle through tight areas, Clarke is better when a game is stretched or there's more opportunities for fast breaks
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Jaden on 00:21 - Apr 21 with 198 viewsRetroBlue

I agree with op... I think JC has far more about his game than Philogene. Yes hes scored some absolute blinders this season and was in a rich vein of form. But his cutting inside and unleashing with his right foot has been sussed by and large now as opponents double or even treble his move inside. He is lightweight on the ball and will often lose possession... I think his knee injury has affected him and I woukdnt say hes back to his best since returning to the side. Was he worth the £20odd million Ashton stumped up for him? Id say no, he was overpriced . We wont recoup that.

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Jaden on 00:54 - Apr 21 with 192 viewsarmchaircritic59

Well, so far this season, when injury free ( and that's a recurring problem ), as far as away from home is concerned, very little, assist for Nunez at Hull, penalty at Norwich, and several disappearing acts. At home of course we've seen what he can do when up for it. Personally I know what I'd prefer, someone that turns up for every game he's selected for. Others may think differently.
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Jaden on 01:38 - Apr 21 with 186 viewsStNeotsBlue

Jaden on 10:59 - Apr 20 by MattinLondon

One of the things which we severely lack in the team is pace - pace is such an asset but apart from Leif and Jack Clarke I do think that we have a team of slow coaches. Maybe that’s why we look like we play with such lethargy.

Jaden is technically a great player and he works hard but he seems to slow down the game so much. Leif Davis bombs down on the outside but he always cuts inside into traffic slowing down the pace of the attack. Sometimes it works but more often than not it doesn’t.

£20M for him is quite outrageous as he’s basically Darren Currie but without his pace.

As I said he’s works hard and is technically great but not sure he’s PL standard.


Are you seriously suggesting Darren Currie was speedy! He had the turn of pace of a young Johnathan Douglas!
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Jaden on 07:22 - Apr 21 with 109 viewsMattinLondon

Jaden on 01:38 - Apr 21 by StNeotsBlue

Are you seriously suggesting Darren Currie was speedy! He had the turn of pace of a young Johnathan Douglas!


No, I was suggesting that Jaden would make prime Darren Currie look pacy.

I was being dramatic to highlight Jaden’s lack of pace.
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Jaden on 16:32 - Apr 21 with 43 viewsLibero

Jaden on 13:34 - Apr 20 by Garv

Yeah, that's clearly his main flaw and that's why Philogene will play for longer at a higher level.


Personally, I think so! Broadhead was a cracking little player with great technical ability, a powerful shot and a fabulous work rate- he just wasn’t very durable.
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