| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important 07:38 - May 3 with 2095 views | Dubtractor |
Numerous occasions over the season where fans have thrown toys out of the pram, occasional threads wanting McKenna out, players written off who then come good etc etc.
And yet, here we are, promoted in 2nd at the end of the season.
I get that football is a game of emotions, and I think a bit of a vent after a poor performance is cathartic, but I genuinely hope (probably in vain) that people can learn to show a bit more patience with our team moving forward.
A football season is a long slog, there will be ups and downs for every team, results won't always go to form, the best teams will have games where they sh1t the bed, but after 46 (or 38) games you end up where you deserve to be.
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 07:46 - May 3 with 1716 views | Blue_Heath |
Fair play to you, I was wrong but you'll be pleased to know my bedsheets were dry this morning :-) I do hope your hands are OK from all that clapping and your face not too achy from all that happy smiling :-)
Unfortunately, as you likely gathered patience is not my strong suit!
Where has that team been that played for the half hour period over last 20 and first 10 of the last two games been though?
As you say we got there in the end, so let's all enjoy the moment, no one more pleased than me to be proved wrong.
Next season as we know will be very different so let's enjoy May, June, July and August and hope for a home fixture first where we can get some points on the board. |  |
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 08:04 - May 3 with 1654 views | Axeldalai_lama |
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Fair play to you, I was wrong but you'll be pleased to know my bedsheets were dry this morning :-) I do hope your hands are OK from all that clapping and your face not too achy from all that happy smiling :-)
Unfortunately, as you likely gathered patience is not my strong suit!
Where has that team been that played for the half hour period over last 20 and first 10 of the last two games been though?
As you say we got there in the end, so let's all enjoy the moment, no one more pleased than me to be proved wrong.
Next season as we know will be very different so let's enjoy May, June, July and August and hope for a home fixture first where we can get some points on the board. |
'Fair play to you I was wrong'
But also
'Why don't we play at our best level every single minute of every single game in one of the most competitive leagues in the world with a huge turn over of players and injuries and teams playing completely different against us as a big team'.
I jest a bit, but come on, that's an entire reversal of the apology?!
Anywho, as you do say let's enjoy this fun bit in the middle before the weekly slog of the prem starts. This is the fun bit. COYB [Post edited 3 May 8:37]
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'Fair play to you I was wrong'
But also
'Why don't we play at our best level every single minute of every single game in one of the most competitive leagues in the world with a huge turn over of players and injuries and teams playing completely different against us as a big team'.
I jest a bit, but come on, that's an entire reversal of the apology?!
Anywho, as you do say let's enjoy this fun bit in the middle before the weekly slog of the prem starts. This is the fun bit. COYB [Post edited 3 May 8:37]
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Just seems a bit strange to me that at a time when the players must be knackered (8 games in 27 days, 3 away in 6 ) they can turn it on like that, yet after some of the games where we've had breathing space they didn't.
That said when looking back an incredibly hard fought promotion which makes it all the sweeter. Doing a Coventry must have been stress free but a tad boring.
Just to clarify though, not a reversal of the apology, I was wrong, there I've said it again!
As you say let's all enjoy the moment, look forward to the world cup and the inevitable transfer news and remember Ip5w1ch are the true pride of Anglia. | |
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 08:52 - May 3 with 1482 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 08:19 - May 3 by Blue_Heath |
Just seems a bit strange to me that at a time when the players must be knackered (8 games in 27 days, 3 away in 6 ) they can turn it on like that, yet after some of the games where we've had breathing space they didn't.
That said when looking back an incredibly hard fought promotion which makes it all the sweeter. Doing a Coventry must have been stress free but a tad boring.
Just to clarify though, not a reversal of the apology, I was wrong, there I've said it again!
As you say let's all enjoy the moment, look forward to the world cup and the inevitable transfer news and remember Ip5w1ch are the true pride of Anglia. |
Fair play. I don't see that as 'strange' or in any way abnormal or wrong in the bigger picture though. Nor expect them to be top notch in every game, or any specific game. I see it as frustrating and annoying and it puts me on a bit of a downer when we don't play well or win when in theory we should. We lost 1 of our last 15 games didn't we?!
It makes no sense to me to think that it all should just go right and great and if not there are specific wrongs and targets and underperformers to get annoyed at. It's a game, it's football, it's bloody great and it's unpredictable and it's a great journey, especially and maybe crucially, when the direction of travel is generally up. If we're genuinely no hopers, slipping towards mediocrity with a whimper then I'm screaming with the best of them!
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Just seems a bit strange to me that at a time when the players must be knackered (8 games in 27 days, 3 away in 6 ) they can turn it on like that, yet after some of the games where we've had breathing space they didn't.
That said when looking back an incredibly hard fought promotion which makes it all the sweeter. Doing a Coventry must have been stress free but a tad boring.
Just to clarify though, not a reversal of the apology, I was wrong, there I've said it again!
As you say let's all enjoy the moment, look forward to the world cup and the inevitable transfer news and remember Ip5w1ch are the true pride of Anglia. |
Players are human, no one performs at their best level all the time, there are peaks and troughs, and this is even more impacting in a team game where it only takes one or two to be slightly off to make the difference.
The whole atmosphere yesterday inspired the team, and probably caught QPR by surprise.
Why can’t the fans perform like this every week? [Post edited 3 May 8:56]
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Fair play. I don't see that as 'strange' or in any way abnormal or wrong in the bigger picture though. Nor expect them to be top notch in every game, or any specific game. I see it as frustrating and annoying and it puts me on a bit of a downer when we don't play well or win when in theory we should. We lost 1 of our last 15 games didn't we?!
It makes no sense to me to think that it all should just go right and great and if not there are specific wrongs and targets and underperformers to get annoyed at. It's a game, it's football, it's bloody great and it's unpredictable and it's a great journey, especially and maybe crucially, when the direction of travel is generally up. If we're genuinely no hopers, slipping towards mediocrity with a whimper then I'm screaming with the best of them!
Different strokes for different folks I guess. |
Exactly this. We had to rebuild the team this season, probably the most since KM took over and it took time but pretty much every player in the squad contributed at some level this season.
We only lost 8 games this season, with a new team and those that stayed were coming off the back of a pretty brutal PL campaign.
This season is a far greater achievement for KM than the 23-24 promotion season due to the above factors. We were favourites and we fell slightly short of that tag, but sides like Sheffield Utd, Birmingham and Leicester were also up there in the short odds at season start.
It’s been a great season not so much for the quality of football at time but the mental strength and squad commitment. | | | |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 09:30 - May 3 with 1251 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Well said, but you know the nappy crappers will be out in force again next season. Rinse and repeat.
I thought it was kind of poetic justice that the 3 scorers were all players who've been maligned to varying degrees throughout the season.
Thankfully McKenna, and some of us, do have the patience. |  |
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 09:32 - May 3 with 1245 views | Churchman |
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Just seems a bit strange to me that at a time when the players must be knackered (8 games in 27 days, 3 away in 6 ) they can turn it on like that, yet after some of the games where we've had breathing space they didn't.
That said when looking back an incredibly hard fought promotion which makes it all the sweeter. Doing a Coventry must have been stress free but a tad boring.
Just to clarify though, not a reversal of the apology, I was wrong, there I've said it again!
As you say let's all enjoy the moment, look forward to the world cup and the inevitable transfer news and remember Ip5w1ch are the true pride of Anglia. |
I’d have taken the Coventry procession every day of the week! But yesterday was special.
I think there are a number of reasons why the team struggled at times. Firstly, they were being asked to play in very much a Premier League style. Possession and patience. The contrast with say Millwall’s in your face, aggressive approach was noticeable (thats not a criticism, just a style comparison).
Then we had a lot of new players. Settling into a new area, country, team mates, rotation system, requirements. Not everyone settles at the same rate.
The first signs of a proper team was Coventry in December. By the time we flattened Norwich for the second time, you could really see them playing for each other. The last section of the Southampton game and the first yesterday, were devastating, but it has taken a season nearly to be able to do that.
Sport and human behaviour is such an inexact science. Who would have thought McAteer would suddenly become so effective? If anyone did, I thought it would be Egeli - I think his time will come. Who’d have thought Taylor would become so important this season? Personally, I wondered if Clarke would ever be more than a one trick pony. I was very wrong. He’s become one heck of a player.
Yes, now is the time to enjoy the moment and the achievement. I suspect there will be a lot of change in the summer right through the club, but that is for then. |  | | |
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 09:46 - May 3 with 1187 views | PioneerBlue |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 09:32 - May 3 by Churchman |
I’d have taken the Coventry procession every day of the week! But yesterday was special.
I think there are a number of reasons why the team struggled at times. Firstly, they were being asked to play in very much a Premier League style. Possession and patience. The contrast with say Millwall’s in your face, aggressive approach was noticeable (thats not a criticism, just a style comparison).
Then we had a lot of new players. Settling into a new area, country, team mates, rotation system, requirements. Not everyone settles at the same rate.
The first signs of a proper team was Coventry in December. By the time we flattened Norwich for the second time, you could really see them playing for each other. The last section of the Southampton game and the first yesterday, were devastating, but it has taken a season nearly to be able to do that.
Sport and human behaviour is such an inexact science. Who would have thought McAteer would suddenly become so effective? If anyone did, I thought it would be Egeli - I think his time will come. Who’d have thought Taylor would become so important this season? Personally, I wondered if Clarke would ever be more than a one trick pony. I was very wrong. He’s become one heck of a player.
Yes, now is the time to enjoy the moment and the achievement. I suspect there will be a lot of change in the summer right through the club, but that is for then. |
That inexact science is exactly what many folks cant work with, its science and magic, the science can take you very far at all levels of the game but the magic dos what it wants when it wants and might never do anything at all but when it does it brings great things!
What is almost unexplainable is how effective KMck is and has been at maximising science with several teams, this is also why probably this team didnt have the same characteristics of the last perhaps a bit less magic, it might be that we start to see the magic at the next level this time. It took a long time but weve started to see the characters grow, Walts Leif, Greaves, Hirsty the stabilisers, Dara the stabiliser and communicator, Furlong Taylor, Nunez, McAteer look to bring vibes of their own, and likes of Clarke, Jaden seem to be more quiet and focused.
This will all change again this summer! | |
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 10:36 - May 3 with 1099 views | HighgateBlue |
And the person with the most patience, season after season, has been McKenna.
Trust the process. I've hated that expression so much. And yet I was so wrong. You don't trust the process because it brings results EVERY time. You trust it because it /eventually/ brings you results when you get to the finish line.
I get that now. Rationally, I've always understood that, but many of us are impatient, easily frustrated, and overly human.
Our superhuman leader shows us where it's at. He's a real one-off, especially in this century.
And it's not just we fans who have insufficient patience. Chelsea and Spurs seem to have a new manager every week. It's demeaning to them, to the clubs, to the sport, and to the fans. And it influences fans' thinking.
I do think that at times those who criticise the criticisers were wrong, in that they would argue that certain results or performances were not bad, or that we were not underperforming relative to cash spent, when actually their better argument was just: yes, things are not yet there. Have patience. We will get there.
And that argument was quietly, resolutely, correct. Just like McKenna.
It's funny to see him laughing and smiling isn't it? Uncomfortable almost. Here's to being uncomfortable again next year. |  | | |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 10:38 - May 3 with 1087 views | Blue_Heath |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 09:30 - May 3 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Well said, but you know the nappy crappers will be out in force again next season. Rinse and repeat.
I thought it was kind of poetic justice that the 3 scorers were all players who've been maligned to varying degrees throughout the season.
Thankfully McKenna, and some of us, do have the patience. |
Next season will have very different expectations for sure. We'll not be expecting to win every week.
Let's be honest we're aiming for 4th bottom and the last PL season was a disaster, whatever happens I just hope we put up a better fight this time around.
I think we have another bounce in us before we can establish ourselves in the prem, really hope we can do a Sunderland rather than a Burnley. | |
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 10:42 - May 3 with 1081 views | HighgateBlue |
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Well said, but you know the nappy crappers will be out in force again next season. Rinse and repeat.
I thought it was kind of poetic justice that the 3 scorers were all players who've been maligned to varying degrees throughout the season.
Thankfully McKenna, and some of us, do have the patience. |
Let's try not to force ourselves into different camps next season. We need to stay together.
A very very small number of people have been comically critical, and unreasonable.
Those of us who have been frustrated and critical at times, to a more reasonable extent, have largely based their disappointment on the relative underperformance compared with our huge budget. That won't be the case next season.
I really do think that the contingent you refer to will /not/ be out in force to anything like the same extent next season.
Insofar as I could be described as a bedwetter this season (and I don't necessarily accept that, but I'm happy to have a sense of humour about it) I will certainly be on the other side of the ledger next season. The Premier League is hard, and we don't have a big budget in that context. Any good performance, any point, is a bonus. So, as much as I don't like factionalism, IF it is right that there must be factions, I am crossing the floor. I won't be the only one. | | | |
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 10:42 - May 3 by HighgateBlue |
Let's try not to force ourselves into different camps next season. We need to stay together.
A very very small number of people have been comically critical, and unreasonable.
Those of us who have been frustrated and critical at times, to a more reasonable extent, have largely based their disappointment on the relative underperformance compared with our huge budget. That won't be the case next season.
I really do think that the contingent you refer to will /not/ be out in force to anything like the same extent next season.
Insofar as I could be described as a bedwetter this season (and I don't necessarily accept that, but I'm happy to have a sense of humour about it) I will certainly be on the other side of the ledger next season. The Premier League is hard, and we don't have a big budget in that context. Any good performance, any point, is a bonus. So, as much as I don't like factionalism, IF it is right that there must be factions, I am crossing the floor. I won't be the only one. |
Great post, as I said earlier expectations this season to next will be very different.
We lost 8 times this year, I doubt we'll get 8 wins next season. | |
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 10:56 - May 3 with 1019 views | Dubtractor |
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Let's try not to force ourselves into different camps next season. We need to stay together.
A very very small number of people have been comically critical, and unreasonable.
Those of us who have been frustrated and critical at times, to a more reasonable extent, have largely based their disappointment on the relative underperformance compared with our huge budget. That won't be the case next season.
I really do think that the contingent you refer to will /not/ be out in force to anything like the same extent next season.
Insofar as I could be described as a bedwetter this season (and I don't necessarily accept that, but I'm happy to have a sense of humour about it) I will certainly be on the other side of the ledger next season. The Premier League is hard, and we don't have a big budget in that context. Any good performance, any point, is a bonus. So, as much as I don't like factionalism, IF it is right that there must be factions, I am crossing the floor. I won't be the only one. |
Agree with this, and i tried to keep my OP constructive for that reason. | |
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 11:06 - May 3 with 990 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It certainly is a long slog and McKenna has delivered again when it matters. Some very big time performances since Easter, notably Norwich, Southampton (even though that point didn’t end up doing anything) and yesterday. Can’t be overlooked how hard that run in and fixture congestion was. I think yesterday was the first time we had a team with nothing to play for since Birmingham.
The points total was low this year but we managed the situation well after our rivals stuttered. For all opposition fans moaning about Pens, I think I’d be more inclined to moan about playing before us. The pivotal 12 hours was Leicester v Wall and our excellent point at WBA. It was a massive advantage knowing what we needed to do there, can’t believe some were not happy with that result.
Even though I still had some anxiety because anything can happen, the entire run in really rested on who was going into last day in second place. It will be slightly overlooked now as they ended up 5th but if Boro even had mid table form in their last 10 games, there would have been little we could have done about things (11 points they amassed during that stretch). But they didn’t so who cares.
After our last two promotions and a brutally tough PL relegation we were due a bit a kinder situation. Well done to KM and the boys and it looked like amazing scenes yesterday.
The hard work begins now with the squad and as Sunderland proved, if you do it right, how you finished in the Champ counts for very little if you can get the hits in on recruitment. New training centre well no doubt help matters. Exciting summer ahead! [Post edited 3 May 11:06]
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 11:06 - May 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It certainly is a long slog and McKenna has delivered again when it matters. Some very big time performances since Easter, notably Norwich, Southampton (even though that point didn’t end up doing anything) and yesterday. Can’t be overlooked how hard that run in and fixture congestion was. I think yesterday was the first time we had a team with nothing to play for since Birmingham.
The points total was low this year but we managed the situation well after our rivals stuttered. For all opposition fans moaning about Pens, I think I’d be more inclined to moan about playing before us. The pivotal 12 hours was Leicester v Wall and our excellent point at WBA. It was a massive advantage knowing what we needed to do there, can’t believe some were not happy with that result.
Even though I still had some anxiety because anything can happen, the entire run in really rested on who was going into last day in second place. It will be slightly overlooked now as they ended up 5th but if Boro even had mid table form in their last 10 games, there would have been little we could have done about things (11 points they amassed during that stretch). But they didn’t so who cares.
After our last two promotions and a brutally tough PL relegation we were due a bit a kinder situation. Well done to KM and the boys and it looked like amazing scenes yesterday.
The hard work begins now with the squad and as Sunderland proved, if you do it right, how you finished in the Champ counts for very little if you can get the hits in on recruitment. New training centre well no doubt help matters. Exciting summer ahead! [Post edited 3 May 11:06]
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"It will be slightly overlooked now as they ended up 5th but if Boro even had mid table form in their last 10 games, there would have been little we could have done about things (11 points they amassed during that stretch). But they didn’t so who cares.'
This is why I have often pushed back on the oft quoted 'must win game' rhetoric that has surfaced for many games over recent months.
We've been in a good position for several months, as long as we at at least matched the results of those around us. Which we did. I've lost track of how long it's been in out hands, but it's some time. Our position was always a little 'false' as we've had 1-2 games in hand on all around us since when? Last November? Games in hand were never certain points, but again we only ever needed to pick up enough points when we came to play those to match the results around us.
It's been in our hands for a long time, and we managed it well. | | | |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 11:38 - May 3 with 907 views | Blue_Heath |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 09:32 - May 3 by Churchman |
I’d have taken the Coventry procession every day of the week! But yesterday was special.
I think there are a number of reasons why the team struggled at times. Firstly, they were being asked to play in very much a Premier League style. Possession and patience. The contrast with say Millwall’s in your face, aggressive approach was noticeable (thats not a criticism, just a style comparison).
Then we had a lot of new players. Settling into a new area, country, team mates, rotation system, requirements. Not everyone settles at the same rate.
The first signs of a proper team was Coventry in December. By the time we flattened Norwich for the second time, you could really see them playing for each other. The last section of the Southampton game and the first yesterday, were devastating, but it has taken a season nearly to be able to do that.
Sport and human behaviour is such an inexact science. Who would have thought McAteer would suddenly become so effective? If anyone did, I thought it would be Egeli - I think his time will come. Who’d have thought Taylor would become so important this season? Personally, I wondered if Clarke would ever be more than a one trick pony. I was very wrong. He’s become one heck of a player.
Yes, now is the time to enjoy the moment and the achievement. I suspect there will be a lot of change in the summer right through the club, but that is for then. |
You make a great point re style of play.
There was a debate on talk sport in the week where some ex pros were saying how boring they play had become.
No you mention we have played that way most of the season.
Would love to have seen more of the last 20 v Saints and first 10 v QPR style of play but I guess KM was building for the long term. | |
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 11:43 - May 3 with 885 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 11:36 - May 3 by SuffolkPunchFC |
"It will be slightly overlooked now as they ended up 5th but if Boro even had mid table form in their last 10 games, there would have been little we could have done about things (11 points they amassed during that stretch). But they didn’t so who cares.'
This is why I have often pushed back on the oft quoted 'must win game' rhetoric that has surfaced for many games over recent months.
We've been in a good position for several months, as long as we at at least matched the results of those around us. Which we did. I've lost track of how long it's been in out hands, but it's some time. Our position was always a little 'false' as we've had 1-2 games in hand on all around us since when? Last November? Games in hand were never certain points, but again we only ever needed to pick up enough points when we came to play those to match the results around us.
It's been in our hands for a long time, and we managed it well. |
We looked in a potentially dodgy position after Stoke with what Boro had on deck but their slump had already started. Since Easter we’ve been able to basically manage the situation, playing once and coming out second.
A very favorable weekend that was.
I will say being 5 points off second with two games in hand is rather different to being second with two games in hand but I agree we navigated the situation very well, I think knowing Millwalls scores have been rather nice for us during the run in. [Post edited 3 May 11:48]
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 11:50 - May 3 with 856 views | Sharkey |
I guess Norwich and Southampton would prove exactly the opposite. |  | | |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 11:51 - May 3 with 851 views | Churchman |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 11:38 - May 3 by Blue_Heath |
You make a great point re style of play.
There was a debate on talk sport in the week where some ex pros were saying how boring they play had become.
No you mention we have played that way most of the season.
Would love to have seen more of the last 20 v Saints and first 10 v QPR style of play but I guess KM was building for the long term. |
We are not as fluid as two years ago but i suspect there was a bit of design in that. Two seasons ago, the number of times we were carved open with a cross field ball to Clarke/Tuanzebe side of the pitch was almost embarrassing.
We have been solid this season that side, not least because Furlong has been consistent. He rarely gets caught wrong side, is robust and a good reader of the game. Limited attacking wise, he really has given the side better balance.
I hoped we’d start hammering teams second half of the season. Whist we beat some teams up, we never truly ripped them to bits Wednesday/Exeter/Charlton style. I think thats more about the way we play rather than ability.
But specifically with regard to your last sentence, I reckon if the season had lasted another ten games wed have seen more and more periods of games like last 20 v Saints and first 20 v QPR | | | |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 12:03 - May 3 with 801 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 11:50 - May 3 by Sharkey |
I guess Norwich and Southampton would prove exactly the opposite. |
Not really the same context at all is it? We needed patience for an ongoing rebuild by the same manager who had 2 promotions in 3, when we'd dropped to the low of 13th or something. Those two had new managers whose completely new ideas were clearly not working and the teams were absolutely plummeting.
Patience was very important in our case, foolhardy in theirs. | | | |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 12:10 - May 3 with 772 views | Sharkey |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 12:03 - May 3 by Axeldalai_lama |
Not really the same context at all is it? We needed patience for an ongoing rebuild by the same manager who had 2 promotions in 3, when we'd dropped to the low of 13th or something. Those two had new managers whose completely new ideas were clearly not working and the teams were absolutely plummeting.
Patience was very important in our case, foolhardy in theirs. |
But that was my point, really. You can easily find examples of where patience is rewarded, and just as easily find examples of where it proves to be a mistake. | | | |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 12:21 - May 3 with 736 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 12:10 - May 3 by Sharkey |
But that was my point, really. You can easily find examples of where patience is rewarded, and just as easily find examples of where it proves to be a mistake. |
The overall point with McKenna is still that many needed patience. If it hadn't worked out and we didn't go up then maybe, maybe, there might be slight justification of thinking about a change over the summer. Maybe. But at the start of this season? It would always have been madness and patience was always required. Anything other in our scenario would have been madness.
But you've got a point that overall there is no definite right answer of 'give every manager patience'. I didn't read the OP as meaning that, but guess you can look at it that way. | | | |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 12:29 - May 3 with 718 views | Dubtractor |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 12:21 - May 3 by Axeldalai_lama |
The overall point with McKenna is still that many needed patience. If it hadn't worked out and we didn't go up then maybe, maybe, there might be slight justification of thinking about a change over the summer. Maybe. But at the start of this season? It would always have been madness and patience was always required. Anything other in our scenario would have been madness.
But you've got a point that overall there is no definite right answer of 'give every manager patience'. I didn't read the OP as meaning that, but guess you can look at it that way. |
For the avoidance of doubt, I meant it in the way you read it.
We've been in situations ourselves where it was clear a change was needed, but even when we weren't quite firing this season, we still kept the points total ticking over. I did a points per month thread a few weeks back, and (August aside) we have been incredibly consistent. We only lost back to back games once all season. | |
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| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 12:42 - May 3 with 682 views | Radlett_blue |
| This season was a perfect example of why patience is important on 12:21 - May 3 by Axeldalai_lama |
The overall point with McKenna is still that many needed patience. If it hadn't worked out and we didn't go up then maybe, maybe, there might be slight justification of thinking about a change over the summer. Maybe. But at the start of this season? It would always have been madness and patience was always required. Anything other in our scenario would have been madness.
But you've got a point that overall there is no definite right answer of 'give every manager patience'. I didn't read the OP as meaning that, but guess you can look at it that way. |
I think the big problem for the fans this season has been the level of expectation. We have parachute money & some of the best players in this division, plus by far the strongest bench. So we expect the team to win every week and play well. I think if we had been able to find a better striker (Akpom has been the biggest disappointment) we'd have been promoted comfortably.
The on field leadership was being questioned by me (& others) when we put in one or two feeble performances, usually against lesser opposition, but O'Shea & the team really seem to have come through this, especially after the 5-3 debacle at Wrexham, by losing only 1 of the last 15 & I'm prepared to put the Pompey shipwreck down to fall-out from the derby intensity. |  |
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