| Starmer & political instability 20:50 - May 11 with 1129 views | Zx1988 |
If Starmer does end up either resigning or being pushed, I presume Novgorod Nigel's handlers will be rubbing their hands with glee, at having caused even more political instability in the UK, no? |  |
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| Starmer & political instability on 20:55 - May 11 with 1083 views | eireblue |
At this moment, they are going through a rhyming dictionary, for Streeting, Raynor, and Burnham. |  | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 21:09 - May 11 with 1033 views | JammyDodgerrr |
It's a free gift to Farage. He would be able to say that we are governed by an unelected PM, and push for an earlier general election, and he would probably be successful in getting one.
It would be incredibly dumb of Labour to push this through, any successor will have the same set of limits and even less time to make a mark. As successful as Burnham might be, for example, he will have circa 2 years to implement and it won't be enough time. That's before you factor in any further issues from the bond markets etc. |  |
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| Starmer & political instability on 21:11 - May 11 with 1023 views | Zx1988 |
How the hell have we managed to end up with so much Russian interference in our political system?
Is it so baked-in now that our security services are unable to do anything about it? | |
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| Starmer & political instability on 10:52 - May 12 with 793 views | Basuco |
| Starmer & political instability on 21:11 - May 11 by Zx1988 |
How the hell have we managed to end up with so much Russian interference in our political system?
Is it so baked-in now that our security services are unable to do anything about it? |
There is a Worldwide far right push that is well funded, it wouldn't surprise me to hear in the future that Christopher Harborne or Chakrit Sakunkrit, or whatever name he is currently using, is a key member of this far right funding group. One of their aims is to create financial chaos so people buy into crypto currencies, which is a scary thought as he is such a big funder of Reform. Mind you I do love a conspiracy theory. |  | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:21 - May 12 with 710 views | OldFart71 |
The problem is although Starmer makes John Major look like a party animal they have nobody to take over from him.
Burnham is not an MP so can't stand. Rayner still has her tax problems. Streeting is too far to the right and Mad Ed would be just as unpopular as Starmer.
Cooper couldn't even do a good job in the Home Office and was replaced by Mahmood who apparently is also too far to the right. | | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:30 - May 12 with 673 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Starmer & political instability on 10:52 - May 12 by Basuco |
There is a Worldwide far right push that is well funded, it wouldn't surprise me to hear in the future that Christopher Harborne or Chakrit Sakunkrit, or whatever name he is currently using, is a key member of this far right funding group. One of their aims is to create financial chaos so people buy into crypto currencies, which is a scary thought as he is such a big funder of Reform. Mind you I do love a conspiracy theory. |
Harborne seems a bit of a snake. I wouldn’t be surprised if we hear a lot more about him in coming years, as he’s going to be pushing and bankrolling efforts to get Farage in number 10 to deregulate crypto. |  |
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| Starmer & political instability on 15:48 - May 12 with 603 views | Blueschev |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:21 - May 12 by OldFart71 |
The problem is although Starmer makes John Major look like a party animal they have nobody to take over from him.
Burnham is not an MP so can't stand. Rayner still has her tax problems. Streeting is too far to the right and Mad Ed would be just as unpopular as Starmer.
Cooper couldn't even do a good job in the Home Office and was replaced by Mahmood who apparently is also too far to the right. |
Why is he "Mad Ed"? Seems the only cabinet member that has any knowledge of their remit, or vision of how to carry it out. |  | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 16:05 - May 12 with 566 views | baxterbasics |
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| Starmer & political instability on 16:36 - May 12 with 516 views | flykickingbybgunn |
I disagree that moving Sir Kier on will help the Greens, Nige or Kemi.
I believe Starmer is doing their job.
For them the longer he stays there the better.
Trashing Labour, which is a shame.
Napoleon said "Never interupt your enemy when he is making a mistake". Clearly that was not in the QC handbook. |  | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 17:25 - May 12 with 463 views | peterleeblue |
| Starmer & political instability on 16:36 - May 12 by flykickingbybgunn |
I disagree that moving Sir Kier on will help the Greens, Nige or Kemi.
I believe Starmer is doing their job.
For them the longer he stays there the better.
Trashing Labour, which is a shame.
Napoleon said "Never interupt your enemy when he is making a mistake". Clearly that was not in the QC handbook. |
Tell me why KS is damaging the Labour Party?
The damage is caused exclusively by the RW media and social media.
In the end we will get the country we deserve. Sadly one I will have to inhabit.
KS is not perfect. However, he remains the adult in the room.
Millions voted for 5 years. We have had 2. The second year of which is disrupted by the idiot Trump and and Netanyahu.
I want Labour to finish what they were given a mandate to do. Govern without interference. |  | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 17:27 - May 12 with 452 views | BlueSmoke |
| Starmer & political instability on 17:25 - May 12 by peterleeblue |
Tell me why KS is damaging the Labour Party?
The damage is caused exclusively by the RW media and social media.
In the end we will get the country we deserve. Sadly one I will have to inhabit.
KS is not perfect. However, he remains the adult in the room.
Millions voted for 5 years. We have had 2. The second year of which is disrupted by the idiot Trump and and Netanyahu.
I want Labour to finish what they were given a mandate to do. Govern without interference. |
Not sure if serious. |  | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 17:46 - May 12 with 407 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer & political instability on 17:27 - May 12 by BlueSmoke |
Not sure if serious. |
Let's test the point then.
What are the major policy mistakes he is making which cause him to be so unpopular? | |
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| Starmer & political instability on 19:24 - May 12 with 321 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Starmer & political instability on 17:25 - May 12 by peterleeblue |
Tell me why KS is damaging the Labour Party?
The damage is caused exclusively by the RW media and social media.
In the end we will get the country we deserve. Sadly one I will have to inhabit.
KS is not perfect. However, he remains the adult in the room.
Millions voted for 5 years. We have had 2. The second year of which is disrupted by the idiot Trump and and Netanyahu.
I want Labour to finish what they were given a mandate to do. Govern without interference. |
Labour had less votes for them under Keir Starmer than they did a few years before under Corbyn. The difference was the votes for the right were split and so the FPTP system did the rest.
80% of the available voters did not vote for Labour. So those people need to be convinced.
It then all depends on if the Prime Minister wants to go for a socialist agenda and annoy those 80% or try to be re-elected and take a more centreist track.
You can tell which way he has chosen by last weeks vote. | | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 19:26 - May 12 with 319 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer & political instability on 19:24 - May 12 by flykickingbybgunn |
Labour had less votes for them under Keir Starmer than they did a few years before under Corbyn. The difference was the votes for the right were split and so the FPTP system did the rest.
80% of the available voters did not vote for Labour. So those people need to be convinced.
It then all depends on if the Prime Minister wants to go for a socialist agenda and annoy those 80% or try to be re-elected and take a more centreist track.
You can tell which way he has chosen by last weeks vote. |
No I can't,. Which way do you say he has chosen | |
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| Starmer & political instability on 19:28 - May 12 with 299 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Starmer & political instability on 19:24 - May 12 by flykickingbybgunn |
Labour had less votes for them under Keir Starmer than they did a few years before under Corbyn. The difference was the votes for the right were split and so the FPTP system did the rest.
80% of the available voters did not vote for Labour. So those people need to be convinced.
It then all depends on if the Prime Minister wants to go for a socialist agenda and annoy those 80% or try to be re-elected and take a more centreist track.
You can tell which way he has chosen by last weeks vote. |
Starmer is a kerjillion miles from socialist agenda.
Obvious to anyone with a tiny bit of knowledge about politics or history |  | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 20:03 - May 12 with 244 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Starmer & political instability on 17:25 - May 12 by peterleeblue |
Tell me why KS is damaging the Labour Party?
The damage is caused exclusively by the RW media and social media.
In the end we will get the country we deserve. Sadly one I will have to inhabit.
KS is not perfect. However, he remains the adult in the room.
Millions voted for 5 years. We have had 2. The second year of which is disrupted by the idiot Trump and and Netanyahu.
I want Labour to finish what they were given a mandate to do. Govern without interference. |
Ironically, your excuse/qualifier that he’s had to suffer Trump and Netanyahu is the one thing that’s demonstrated his strengths. His foreign affairs work and his international standing is as good as we could expect. Unfortunately his domestic record is not impressing people. There’s no coherent vision that gives confidence he can deliver. He says growth is their number one priority, for example, but several of their policies are hurting growth. That’s repeated across several policy areas. It’s confusing people and they can’t see what they’re doing or how we can relate to it. Last week’s election results prove that point. | |
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| Starmer & political instability on 20:27 - May 12 with 203 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer & political instability on 20:03 - May 12 by Swansea_Blue |
Ironically, your excuse/qualifier that he’s had to suffer Trump and Netanyahu is the one thing that’s demonstrated his strengths. His foreign affairs work and his international standing is as good as we could expect. Unfortunately his domestic record is not impressing people. There’s no coherent vision that gives confidence he can deliver. He says growth is their number one priority, for example, but several of their policies are hurting growth. That’s repeated across several policy areas. It’s confusing people and they can’t see what they’re doing or how we can relate to it. Last week’s election results prove that point. |
You understand that we need money because of the parlous state of the finances and the economy keeps being hit by world crises? What should have been done differently? | |
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| Starmer & political instability on 21:33 - May 12 with 129 views | DJR |
| Starmer & political instability on 20:27 - May 12 by redrickstuhaart |
You understand that we need money because of the parlous state of the finances and the economy keeps being hit by world crises? What should have been done differently? |
How we got here is irrelevant in my view.
There is an existential threat to both the Labour Party and the country, with the prospect of a Reform government, if Starmer hangs on as Labour leader with a third of the non-payroll MPs not supportive of him.
And it may seem unfair that Starmer hasn't been given time but, leaving aside various missteps, that is because of the anger of many voters about nearly 20 years of economic shock after shock, some self-inflicted. |  | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 21:37 - May 12 with 106 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Starmer & political instability on 20:27 - May 12 by redrickstuhaart |
You understand that we need money because of the parlous state of the finances and the economy keeps being hit by world crises? What should have been done differently? |
I just said what’s needed. A coherent vision where the policies support each other to achieve their goals. Not policies that conflict and undermine each other. | |
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| Starmer & political instability on 21:43 - May 12 with 101 views | DJR |
This appears to be merely prolonging the inevitable and will be doing the Labour government's credibility no good at all.
https://www.theguardian.com/po
After all, we're not talking about a single stalking horse a la Sir Anthony Meyer but instead nearly 100 Labour MPs who don't support Starmer, something that will be exploited mercilessly by Badenoch at PMQs. | | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 22:17 - May 12 with 71 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer & political instability on 21:33 - May 12 by DJR |
How we got here is irrelevant in my view.
There is an existential threat to both the Labour Party and the country, with the prospect of a Reform government, if Starmer hangs on as Labour leader with a third of the non-payroll MPs not supportive of him.
And it may seem unfair that Starmer hasn't been given time but, leaving aside various missteps, that is because of the anger of many voters about nearly 20 years of economic shock after shock, some self-inflicted. |
If the issue is media and people being to blinkered to look at facts, change does nothing | |
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