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Labour MP says he's resigning so Andy Burnham can stand
Labour MP Josh Simons has just issued a statement: "Today, I am putting the people I represent and the country I love first and will be resigning as MP for Makerfield.
I am standing aside so that Andy Burnham can return to his home."
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 13:43 - May 18 by DJR
I doubt there is a single Reform voter who didn't vote for Brexit.
In the constituency, every ward at the recent elections voted Reform.
Reform and the media will make it about a betrayal of Brexit by Labour.
Of course, Burnham will have a personal vote but it is going to be a damn close call, made far worse by Streeting.
Again, you're assuming people are voting on Brexit alone. I'd like to credit people with a bit more intelligence than that. I think the idea of the PM representing your constituency will appeal to a lot, when they think about it. They'd be best placed to get local things done.
And regardless, Burnham has said Brexit's not a discussion for now. If anything, people who wanted leave and want it to stay as leave should be voting for Burnham to get rid of Streeting who wants to rejoin far more pressingly.
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 14:29 - May 18 by The_Flashing_Smile
Again, you're assuming people are voting on Brexit alone. I'd like to credit people with a bit more intelligence than that. I think the idea of the PM representing your constituency will appeal to a lot, when they think about it. They'd be best placed to get local things done.
And regardless, Burnham has said Brexit's not a discussion for now. If anything, people who wanted leave and want it to stay as leave should be voting for Burnham to get rid of Streeting who wants to rejoin far more pressingly.
Streeting certainly threw a bomb at Burnham there. By nailing his colours to the mast about re-joining, that has forced a response from Burnham who has gone full turn about and now says he respects the Brexit vote and does not propose to re-join and re-open the old wounds with another debate. Is this to provide a point of difference with Streeting or is it to strenghten his position in a constituency that supported Brexit and as a counter to Reform canvassing that Burnham is anti-Brexit.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 15:08 - May 18 with 945 views
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 14:41 - May 18 by mellowblue
Streeting certainly threw a bomb at Burnham there. By nailing his colours to the mast about re-joining, that has forced a response from Burnham who has gone full turn about and now says he respects the Brexit vote and does not propose to re-join and re-open the old wounds with another debate. Is this to provide a point of difference with Streeting or is it to strenghten his position in a constituency that supported Brexit and as a counter to Reform canvassing that Burnham is anti-Brexit.
One of my predictions yesterday, in connection with what I suggested could be Streeting's Machiavellianism, was this.
"If Burnham plays down the prospect of rejoining, he loses credibililty with Labour members who feel strongly about this, perhaps boosting support for Streeting in a leadership election."
And certainly reading the comments BTL on the Guardian, what Burnham has just said has gone down like a lead balloon.
Streeting's prospects of winning a leadership election therefore look to have increased, and certainly if Burnham doesn't win the by-election.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 15:29 - May 18 with 920 views
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 15:08 - May 18 by DJR
One of my predictions yesterday, in connection with what I suggested could be Streeting's Machiavellianism, was this.
"If Burnham plays down the prospect of rejoining, he loses credibililty with Labour members who feel strongly about this, perhaps boosting support for Streeting in a leadership election."
And certainly reading the comments BTL on the Guardian, what Burnham has just said has gone down like a lead balloon.
Streeting's prospects of winning a leadership election therefore look to have increased, and certainly if Burnham doesn't win the by-election.
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Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened.
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 15:08 - May 18 by DJR
One of my predictions yesterday, in connection with what I suggested could be Streeting's Machiavellianism, was this.
"If Burnham plays down the prospect of rejoining, he loses credibililty with Labour members who feel strongly about this, perhaps boosting support for Streeting in a leadership election."
And certainly reading the comments BTL on the Guardian, what Burnham has just said has gone down like a lead balloon.
Streeting's prospects of winning a leadership election therefore look to have increased, and certainly if Burnham doesn't win the by-election.
If we want, real leaders that will get stuff done, not politicians trying to win votes.
And you want to oppose Reform.
Seems to me some should be able to stand up and make the case. You voted for Brexit, for sovereignty, borders, economy.
Brexit has failed on all fronts.
Your choice voters, keep digging with Farage and some ex-Tories.
Or realise it’s now time to get out of this hole.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 15:51 - May 18 with 885 views
"Before we get to a Streeting-led government, he has to fight a Labour leadership campaign in which the dominant question will be: “Who has the best chance of beating Farage in 2029?” It is a question he is well placed to answer."
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 15:55 - May 18 with 864 views
"Before we get to a Streeting-led government, he has to fight a Labour leadership campaign in which the dominant question will be: “Who has the best chance of beating Farage in 2029?” It is a question he is well placed to answer."
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Why do people shoot the messenger rather than the message. What do you disagree with in his assessment of Burnham's u-turn?
Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened.
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 15:55 - May 18 by GlasgowBlue
Why do people shoot the messenger rather than the message. What do you disagree with in his assessment of Burnham's u-turn?
I was just pointing out he has an agenda.
"I hope it happens in my lifetime" is a long way away from campaigning for it now, so it's not a U-turn.
I also hope it happens in my lifetime but I respect the democratic vote and don't think after 10 years of political uncertainty we need the furthers years of political uncertainty that trying to rejoin would bring.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 16:11 - May 18 with 796 views
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 15:29 - May 18 by GlasgowBlue
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Journalist in trying to stoke up a story shocker.
Of course you can say you want to join the EU and hope it happens in your lifetime, but also think now is not the time to be thinking about it (when fighting a local by-election). It's not remotely a flip of his view.
Is Andy Burnham next in line for the smear tactics?
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 16:11 - May 18 by The_Flashing_Smile
Journalist in trying to stoke up a story shocker.
Of course you can say you want to join the EU and hope it happens in your lifetime, but also think now is not the time to be thinking about it (when fighting a local by-election). It's not remotely a flip of his view.
Is Andy Burnham next in line for the smear tactics?
They've certainly started in relation to his jogging.
On social media, Burnham has also been defending himself against allegations that his jogging routine is fake.
This is what he posted in reply to a Daily Mail account promoting this story headlined: “Burnham is in the running... but why did the jogging mayor drive home?” Burnham said:
It’s part of my regular routine. I often leave my car at Newton station and do my morning run to pick it up. I did it again today because I had a pint at the match. I would say check it with my neighbours but don’t as they don’t deserve the intrusion on our road.
Burnham also delivered similar messages on X in reply to a GB News presenter and to a pro-Reform UK YouTuber who also claimed his jogging excursions were staged.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 16:39 - May 18 with 766 views
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 16:02 - May 18 by DJR
I was just pointing out he has an agenda.
"I hope it happens in my lifetime" is a long way away from campaigning for it now, so it's not a U-turn.
I also hope it happens in my lifetime but I respect the democratic vote and don't think after 10 years of political uncertainty we need the furthers years of political uncertainty that trying to rejoin would bring.
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I was a bickering Remainer who was fully behind a second referendum, but agree totally with you. Also, we can't really rejoin without losing the flexibility and control that the pound gives us (partly why I didn;t want to leave) so screw that.
Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 16:11 - May 18 by The_Flashing_Smile
Journalist in trying to stoke up a story shocker.
Of course you can say you want to join the EU and hope it happens in your lifetime, but also think now is not the time to be thinking about it (when fighting a local by-election). It's not remotely a flip of his view.
Is Andy Burnham next in line for the smear tactics?
Looks like he is doesn't it. On here and in media
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 18:34 - May 18 with 677 views
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 16:12 - May 18 by The_Flashing_Smile
That it's not a u-turn (unless you're really desperately looking for one).
Great journo From wiki
In November 2015, Rentoul issued a public apology for tweeting that "Jeremy Corbyn might say that France had brought the Paris attacks on itself". The journalist acknowledged it was a "stupid and offensive" thing to say.[9]
Rentoul was critical of Ed Miliband's leadership of the Labour Party,[10][11][12] and voted for Boris Johnson in the 2008 and 2012 London Mayoral elections.[13]
In August 2021, Rentoul tweeted a public apology to Labour MP Jon Trickett. Rentoul had claimed that the MP's use of the slogan "Kill the Bill" implied support for the murder of police officers. In his apology, Rentoul acknowledged the slogan relates to opposition to the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill and stated: "I accept that my tweet was wrong and I sincerely apologise for the distress and upset that my tweet has caused Mr Trickett."[14][15]
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 18:45 - May 18 with 647 views
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 16:36 - May 18 by DJR
They've certainly started in relation to his jogging.
On social media, Burnham has also been defending himself against allegations that his jogging routine is fake.
This is what he posted in reply to a Daily Mail account promoting this story headlined: “Burnham is in the running... but why did the jogging mayor drive home?” Burnham said:
It’s part of my regular routine. I often leave my car at Newton station and do my morning run to pick it up. I did it again today because I had a pint at the match. I would say check it with my neighbours but don’t as they don’t deserve the intrusion on our road.
Burnham also delivered similar messages on X in reply to a GB News presenter and to a pro-Reform UK YouTuber who also claimed his jogging excursions were staged.
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 18:34 - May 18 by reusersfreekicks
Great journo From wiki
In November 2015, Rentoul issued a public apology for tweeting that "Jeremy Corbyn might say that France had brought the Paris attacks on itself". The journalist acknowledged it was a "stupid and offensive" thing to say.[9]
Rentoul was critical of Ed Miliband's leadership of the Labour Party,[10][11][12] and voted for Boris Johnson in the 2008 and 2012 London Mayoral elections.[13]
In August 2021, Rentoul tweeted a public apology to Labour MP Jon Trickett. Rentoul had claimed that the MP's use of the slogan "Kill the Bill" implied support for the murder of police officers. In his apology, Rentoul acknowledged the slogan relates to opposition to the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill and stated: "I accept that my tweet was wrong and I sincerely apologise for the distress and upset that my tweet has caused Mr Trickett."[14][15]
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 16:36 - May 18 by DJR
They've certainly started in relation to his jogging.
On social media, Burnham has also been defending himself against allegations that his jogging routine is fake.
This is what he posted in reply to a Daily Mail account promoting this story headlined: “Burnham is in the running... but why did the jogging mayor drive home?” Burnham said:
It’s part of my regular routine. I often leave my car at Newton station and do my morning run to pick it up. I did it again today because I had a pint at the match. I would say check it with my neighbours but don’t as they don’t deserve the intrusion on our road.
Burnham also delivered similar messages on X in reply to a GB News presenter and to a pro-Reform UK YouTuber who also claimed his jogging excursions were staged.
That's just daft. I run most days and often get bored of coming out of my driveway and either turning left or right. So I take the car to our local loch or park to run around there just to break up the routine. Then drive back
Silly non story from the Mail.
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Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened.
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 16:39 - May 18 by giant_stow
I was a bickering Remainer who was fully behind a second referendum, but agree totally with you. Also, we can't really rejoin without losing the flexibility and control that the pound gives us (partly why I didn;t want to leave) so screw that.
I was a staunch Remainer and campaigned on the street for it but I thought the People's Vote campaign was totally undemocratic. Far better to have accepted the softer Brexit that was on offer when May allowed the free votes. But from recollection the Lib Dems put the kibosh on things.
And when it comes to rejoining, we ain't going to get the generous terms we had, and as you suggest we'll have to adopt the Euro but those who wish to rejoin never focus on issues like that.
There is also the fact that productivity has always been one of the major weakness of the UK economy, whether inside or outside the EU.
EDIT: as if to prove the point in the penultimate paragraph.
Britain would not be able to rejoin the EU on the special terms it enjoyed in the past, veterans of the Brexit negotiations have said.
Georg Riekeles, a former adviser on the EU’s Brexit taskforce, said he expected member states would take “a very warm, welcoming” stance but also a “hard-headed” one to a British membership application.
"There is a strategic need for the EU and the UK to work together, but I don’t think there would be an appetite for opening up new decades of British exceptionalism,” he said. “The price of re-entry would be membership on normal terms.”
During its 47 years of EU membership, the UK achieved an unprecedented special status: opt-outs from core policies, such as the single currency and the Schengen passport-free zone, as well as a rebate on EU budget payments, while carving out an agenda-setting role.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:24 - May 18 with 592 views
1. I will stick to Rachael Reeves’ fiscal rules. 2. I will not seek to rejoin the EU.
Not a bad first day for the "change" candidate.
Meanwhile we actually have an elected Labour Prime Minister, who just two years ago won a massive majority and has three more years in which to convince the country to give him another 5 years. Everything else is a sideshow.
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Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened.
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:24 - May 18 by GlasgowBlue
Andy Burnham now now says:
1. I will stick to Rachael Reeves’ fiscal rules. 2. I will not seek to rejoin the EU.
Not a bad first day for the "change" candidate.
Meanwhile we actually have an elected Labour Prime Minister, who just two years ago won a massive majority and has three more years in which to convince the country to give him another 5 years. Everything else is a sideshow.
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I think he is entitled to feel hard done by, especially as growth for the first quarter was the highest in the G7. Sadly Trump has put paid to that, and the government will get no credit.
I'd have been happy to give him a couple more years, and then change if it didn't work out. Indeed, allies of his suggested last week that he would have gone along with this.
But then again, I am not a Labour MP in the very many constituencies at risk, and there does seem to be a visceral hatred of Starmer which I am not sure is wholly rational.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:43 - May 18 with 565 views
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:30 - May 18 by DJR
I think he is entitled to feel hard done by, especially as growth for the first quarter was the highest in the G7. Sadly Trump has put paid to that, and the government will get no credit.
I'd have been happy to give him a couple more years, and then change if it didn't work out. Indeed, allies of his suggested last week that he would have gone along with this.
But then again, I am not a Labour MP in the very many constituencies at risk, and there does seem to be a visceral hatred of Starmer which I am not sure is wholly rational.
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I'm reminded of the Tory members calling for Boris Johnson to get a seat in Parliament when he was in the middle of his second term as London Mayor and labeled the most popular politician in the country who could reach parts of the country that other Tories couldn't.
As Mick once said, that worked out well.
Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened.
Just sharing this for those of us that think Streeting would be a disastrous choice for leader/PM. or indeed for those under the illusion that he would be a good choice.
4% of Labour Party members pick Wes Streeting as their first choice for Labour leader
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 21:27 - May 18 by Dubtractor
Just sharing this for those of us that think Streeting would be a disastrous choice for leader/PM. or indeed for those under the illusion that he would be a good choice.
4% of Labour Party members pick Wes Streeting as their first choice for Labour leader
MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 22:05 - May 18 by GlasgowBlue
That would be the same Labour members who thought Jeremy Corbyn would make the best leader ahead of Burnham in 2015.
Burnham was awful in the 2015 contest Yvette Cooper was much better. Plus, as you well know, a lot of people took advantage of the cheap quasi membership to vote for Corbyn
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