| Burnham allowed to run for selection 17:18 - May 15 with 1105 views | SitfcB |
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| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 17:21 - May 15 with 1070 views | GlasgowBlue |
Very sensible move by Starmer.. Burnham has a tough fight on his hands. |  |
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| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 17:50 - May 15 with 1010 views | DJR |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 17:21 - May 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Very sensible move by Starmer.. Burnham has a tough fight on his hands. |
I had hoped he'd get a Liverpool seat.
As an Evertonian who has done an awful lot on Hillsborough, it would have been a canter. And Reform seems much less of a thing than in parts of Greater Manchester.
Still, if Burnham can't win in Makefield, Labour might as well concede to Reform now. [Post edited 15 May 17:51]
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| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 19:38 - May 15 with 932 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 17:50 - May 15 by DJR |
I had hoped he'd get a Liverpool seat.
As an Evertonian who has done an awful lot on Hillsborough, it would have been a canter. And Reform seems much less of a thing than in parts of Greater Manchester.
Still, if Burnham can't win in Makefield, Labour might as well concede to Reform now. [Post edited 15 May 17:51]
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As usual, Andrew Neil sums up the absurdity of the who situation.
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| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 20:04 - May 15 with 866 views | NthQldITFC |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 19:38 - May 15 by GlasgowBlue |
As usual, Andrew Neil sums up the absurdity of the who situation.
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There absolutely is a need in the national interest if we look a mere three years into the future. |  |
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| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 20:24 - May 15 with 822 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 20:04 - May 15 by NthQldITFC |
There absolutely is a need in the national interest if we look a mere three years into the future. |
So Andy Burnham is the only member of the entire Labour party who can stop Reform winning a General Election?
An elected Labour government with three years left in power, and a massive majority can only be saved by one man?
I think people are losing their minds tbh. | |
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| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 20:37 - May 15 with 795 views | Perublue |
Any word on when the by-election will be ?
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| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 20:42 - May 15 with 771 views | DJR |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 20:37 - May 15 by Perublue |
Any word on when the by-election will be ?
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The Guardian is suggesting 18 June as the most likely day. | | | |
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| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 20:43 - May 15 with 762 views | jasondozzell |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 20:04 - May 15 by NthQldITFC |
There absolutely is a need in the national interest if we look a mere three years into the future. |
I can't think of anything that says more about the dreadful state we are in than the fact that a Blairite who lost two previous leadership elections and is more of the same neoliberal consensus is seen as the great hope. |  | | |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 20:53 - May 15 with 747 views | EdwardStone |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 20:24 - May 15 by GlasgowBlue |
So Andy Burnham is the only member of the entire Labour party who can stop Reform winning a General Election?
An elected Labour government with three years left in power, and a massive majority can only be saved by one man?
I think people are losing their minds tbh. |
Reminds me of all the hype about Finchy in " The Office"
I always felt that Burnham would have a lot more credibility if he hadn't been such a Blairite
And he cut back on the Just 4 Men hair dye
And he looked a bit less like a sock puppet |  | | |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 21:04 - May 15 with 715 views | DJR |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 20:24 - May 15 by GlasgowBlue |
So Andy Burnham is the only member of the entire Labour party who can stop Reform winning a General Election?
An elected Labour government with three years left in power, and a massive majority can only be saved by one man?
I think people are losing their minds tbh. |
It was always the case that the Labour party was much too loyal to leaders who weren't cutting it. That was never the case with the Tories.
But things changed with Corbyn in 2016 when the PLP tried to bring him down
Then it was differences of policy. This time I think it is the case that many MPs fear for their seats, having by all accounts had appalling feedback about Starmer.
The problem it seems to me is that there is a complete lack of good alternatives in PLP. This is indicative of the fact that the calibre of MPs is much lower than in the days of old when political giants were two a penny.
That really does only leave Andy Burnham who could be said to represent a new broom, as well having a lack of involvement in the failed political project. [Post edited 15 May 21:07]
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| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 21:09 - May 15 with 684 views | jasondozzell |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 21:04 - May 15 by DJR |
It was always the case that the Labour party was much too loyal to leaders who weren't cutting it. That was never the case with the Tories.
But things changed with Corbyn in 2016 when the PLP tried to bring him down
Then it was differences of policy. This time I think it is the case that many MPs fear for their seats, having by all accounts had appalling feedback about Starmer.
The problem it seems to me is that there is a complete lack of good alternatives in PLP. This is indicative of the fact that the calibre of MPs is much lower than in the days of old when political giants were two a penny.
That really does only leave Andy Burnham who could be said to represent a new broom, as well having a lack of involvement in the failed political project. [Post edited 15 May 21:07]
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Burnham didn't win those last two leadership elections for a reason. He's a Blairite. And not the answer.
We've become obsessed with personalities. Where are the IDEAS?
What was needed was a real debate and exchange of ideas. Instead we're going to get a coronation. | | | |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 21:27 - May 15 with 646 views | Perublue |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 20:42 - May 15 by DJR |
The Guardian is suggesting 18 June as the most likely day. |
The day after England’s opening match in the World Cup then.
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| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 21:48 - May 15 with 605 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 21:09 - May 15 by jasondozzell |
Burnham didn't win those last two leadership elections for a reason. He's a Blairite. And not the answer.
We've become obsessed with personalities. Where are the IDEAS?
What was needed was a real debate and exchange of ideas. Instead we're going to get a coronation. |
I’d take the state of the country under Blair every day of the week compared to the decline we’ve had since 2010.
- Minimum wage
- Massive reductions in poverty, child poverty and pensioner poverty
- Sure Start programme with the largest boost to early years support on record
- Support for higher education for all irrespective of wealth
- Large reductions in NHS waiting lists (a tiny fraction of what they are now)
- Huge leaps in human rights protects (same sec relationships, adoption of ECHR)
- Improvement in employment rights for workers
Just to mention a few headlines. No government has done more for normal people in my lifetime. Of course they weren’t perfect, but we don’t get to choose perfect. We can only choose the best of what’s offered to us. If they install Burnham as leader, it comes down to whether you’d prefer him or Farage. |  |
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| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 23:37 - May 15 with 520 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 19:38 - May 15 by GlasgowBlue |
As usual, Andrew Neil sums up the absurdity of the who situation.
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You lost me at Andrew Neal |  | | |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 08:06 - May 16 with 377 views | Libero |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 21:48 - May 15 by Swansea_Blue |
I’d take the state of the country under Blair every day of the week compared to the decline we’ve had since 2010.
- Minimum wage
- Massive reductions in poverty, child poverty and pensioner poverty
- Sure Start programme with the largest boost to early years support on record
- Support for higher education for all irrespective of wealth
- Large reductions in NHS waiting lists (a tiny fraction of what they are now)
- Huge leaps in human rights protects (same sec relationships, adoption of ECHR)
- Improvement in employment rights for workers
Just to mention a few headlines. No government has done more for normal people in my lifetime. Of course they weren’t perfect, but we don’t get to choose perfect. We can only choose the best of what’s offered to us. If they install Burnham as leader, it comes down to whether you’d prefer him or Farage. |
Indeed, I am absolutely no Blair fan but any stretch of the imagination- but actually it would be a marked improvement to return to those values, instead of whatever *this* is. |  | | |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 09:42 - May 16 with 329 views | PaulYoungs |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 21:48 - May 15 by Swansea_Blue |
I’d take the state of the country under Blair every day of the week compared to the decline we’ve had since 2010.
- Minimum wage
- Massive reductions in poverty, child poverty and pensioner poverty
- Sure Start programme with the largest boost to early years support on record
- Support for higher education for all irrespective of wealth
- Large reductions in NHS waiting lists (a tiny fraction of what they are now)
- Huge leaps in human rights protects (same sec relationships, adoption of ECHR)
- Improvement in employment rights for workers
Just to mention a few headlines. No government has done more for normal people in my lifetime. Of course they weren’t perfect, but we don’t get to choose perfect. We can only choose the best of what’s offered to us. If they install Burnham as leader, it comes down to whether you’d prefer him or Farage. |
And he caused the illegal immigration problem in this country because of his illegal war |  | | |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 09:53 - May 16 with 309 views | tractordownsouth |
| Burnham allowed to run for selection on 09:42 - May 16 by PaulYoungs |
And he caused the illegal immigration problem in this country because of his illegal war |
The massive increase in small boats was caused by Nigel Farage’s Brexit taking us out of the Dublin Agreement. If an asylum seeker has their application rejected, they can’t try again in another EU country. Now we’re out, we’re the obvious place for people to have a second bite of the cherry.
Also worth noting the number of asylum hotels is down by half on its peak from 2023 and there was a 42% reduction in boat crossings in the first four months of the year, compared to the same period in 2025. [Post edited 16 May 9:55]
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