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Scant consolation to Hearts 20:43 - May 22 with 1401 views

That decision cost Hearts the title.

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Scant consolation to Hearts on 21:20 - May 22 with 1107 views

NthQldITFC

First time I've looked at this...

...but am I the only one who thinks it is a penalty? Arm above head, OK 'trapped' by the attacker's shoulder, but the defender has put it there in the first place. I mean, I wish it hadn't been given because Chris Stutton, but it is a pen, innit?

I missed the chatter about this when it happened - what's the consensus?

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Scant consolation to Hearts on 21:24 - May 22 with 1082 views

MattinLondon

Scant consolation to Hearts on 21:20 - May 22 by NthQldITFC
First time I've looked at this... ...but am I the only one who thinks it is a penalty? Arm above head, OK 'trapped' by the attacker's shoulder, but the defender has put it there in the first place. I mean, I wish it hadn't been given because Chris Stutton, but it is a pen, innit? I missed the chatter about this when it happened - what's the consensus?

I thought that it was a definite penalty but think I’m in the minority.

Scant consolation to Hearts on 21:31 - May 22 with 1038 views

Linners

Scant consolation to Hearts on 21:20 - May 22 by NthQldITFC
First time I've looked at this... ...but am I the only one who thinks it is a penalty? Arm above head, OK 'trapped' by the attacker's shoulder, but the defender has put it there in the first place. I mean, I wish it hadn't been given because Chris Stutton, but it is a pen, innit? I missed the chatter about this when it happened - what's the consensus?

I think the issue was that it wasn't given on the pitch, so it had to meet the 'clear and obvious error' threshold to be overturned. And when you see that the 'header' went 20-odd yards you're left wondering how much contact there was with the hand at all.

Basically think Leif Davis' hair-pull, but in penalty form.

Scant consolation to Hearts on 22:26 - May 22 with 756 views

Swansea_Blue

Scant consolation to Hearts on 21:20 - May 22 by NthQldITFC
First time I've looked at this... ...but am I the only one who thinks it is a penalty? Arm above head, OK 'trapped' by the attacker's shoulder, but the defender has put it there in the first place. I mean, I wish it hadn't been given because Chris Stutton, but it is a pen, innit? I missed the chatter about this when it happened - what's the consensus?

I think the laws of the game allow for a reason for the arm/hand being in a particular position like this, which is very clear in this case (leverage to get above the defender, arm then trapped). Ignoring the laws, there’s no advantage from that either. His clearance went miles and was obviously mainly off his head. L

So as far as laws go, I can see why it shouldn’t be given but you do see them given (as we did). In terms of sense, it’s the correct decision to criticise the award imo (no advantage, no intention to handle it, didn’t make his body bigger or affect the clearance).

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Scant consolation to Hearts on 22:31 - May 22 with 710 views

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Scant consolation to Hearts on 21:20 - May 22 by NthQldITFC
First time I've looked at this... ...but am I the only one who thinks it is a penalty? Arm above head, OK 'trapped' by the attacker's shoulder, but the defender has put it there in the first place. I mean, I wish it hadn't been given because Chris Stutton, but it is a pen, innit? I missed the chatter about this when it happened - what's the consensus?

Nah, accidental and no advantage gained, no pen.

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Scant consolation to Hearts on 22:43 - May 22 with 622 views

skinnybob72

Dodgy decision goes way of one of the OF and a few days later - long after points / trophy are safely tucked away - you get the “sorry chaps, that was a wrong decision” from the SFA / SFL. See also last minute penalty for Celtic at Kilmarnock earlier in the season.

See also the many iffy calls that went Rangers way in an effort to get them into the title race earlier in the season. A couple of stonewall penalties that should have been given against them right at the end of games when they were only 1-0 up.

The game up here stinks.

Scant consolation to Hearts on 06:38 - May 23 with 194 views

Blue_Heath

Scant consolation to Hearts on 21:20 - May 22 by NthQldITFC
First time I've looked at this... ...but am I the only one who thinks it is a penalty? Arm above head, OK 'trapped' by the attacker's shoulder, but the defender has put it there in the first place. I mean, I wish it hadn't been given because Chris Stutton, but it is a pen, innit? I missed the chatter about this when it happened - what's the consensus?

That photo shows so clearly the ball is on his hand, not a natural position, under the laws of the game a penalty. It's cast iron.

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Scant consolation to Hearts on 06:53 - May 23 with 169 views

TractorWood

Scant consolation to Hearts on 06:38 - May 23 by Blue_Heath
That photo shows so clearly the ball is on his hand, not a natural position, under the laws of the game a penalty. It's cast iron.

Even more stonewall when VAR looks at it 2,000 times.

Id be expecting that to be given to Towen in the Prem.

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Scant consolation to Hearts on 06:54 - May 23 with 169 views

NthQldITFC

Scant consolation to Hearts on 22:31 - May 22 by Marshalls_Mullet
Nah, accidental and no advantage gained, no pen.

I totally agree with accidental and no advantage and in how I'd like the game to be refereed, but I think we've painted ourselves into a corner with VAR and sh!t like this.

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Scant consolation to Hearts on 08:01 - May 23 with 0 views

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Scant consolation to Hearts on 06:38 - May 23 by Blue_Heath
That photo shows so clearly the ball is on his hand, not a natural position, under the laws of the game a penalty. It's cast iron.

No way the flight of the ball goes the way it did if it hits his hand. He clearly heads it out fur a throw in with power. That hits his hand it would bounce about a foot in front of him.

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