| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall 18:05 - Jun 3 with 2294 views | SitfcB |
- The Suffolk County Council leader, Michael Hadwen.
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:13 - Jun 3 with 2004 views | grow_our_own |
Don't look up. The comet that will destroy humanity is woke. |  | | |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:16 - Jun 3 with 1987 views | armchaircritic59 |
Don't worry Michael, people will get rid of you eventually. |  | | |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:16 - Jun 3 with 1986 views | IndependentlyBlue |
Guess who’s taken over the asylum? |  |
| Better to stay silent and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt |
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:18 - Jun 3 with 1980 views | vapour_trail |
Which, rather ironically, is just Michael with his own little piece of virtual signalling.
What a prick. |  |
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:45 - Jun 3 with 1906 views | itfc_bucks |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:18 - Jun 3 by vapour_trail |
Which, rather ironically, is just Michael with his own little piece of virtual signalling.
What a prick. |
Being pig-ignorant of the rapidly oncoming climate emergency is not virtue. | |
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:51 - Jun 3 with 1885 views | rkc123 |
I genuinely don't get who they are appealing to with this climate change denial stuff, I think I saw recently that around 75% of people in the UK are concerned about climate change, with over 65% believing we are facing a climate change emergency. Even people I know who used to make the old 'If this is global warming bring it on' joke when we had a bit of warm weather now see that 35°C in May, no longer getting snow in winter, crops failing etc etc are real issues, so I come back to the question of who does this appeal to? | | | |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 19:00 - Jun 3 with 1816 views | Meadowlark |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:51 - Jun 3 by rkc123 |
I genuinely don't get who they are appealing to with this climate change denial stuff, I think I saw recently that around 75% of people in the UK are concerned about climate change, with over 65% believing we are facing a climate change emergency. Even people I know who used to make the old 'If this is global warming bring it on' joke when we had a bit of warm weather now see that 35°C in May, no longer getting snow in winter, crops failing etc etc are real issues, so I come back to the question of who does this appeal to? |
Those who are hard of thinking? Presumably all those people who voted for them? |  | | |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 19:08 - Jun 3 with 1779 views | armchaircritic59 |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:51 - Jun 3 by rkc123 |
I genuinely don't get who they are appealing to with this climate change denial stuff, I think I saw recently that around 75% of people in the UK are concerned about climate change, with over 65% believing we are facing a climate change emergency. Even people I know who used to make the old 'If this is global warming bring it on' joke when we had a bit of warm weather now see that 35°C in May, no longer getting snow in winter, crops failing etc etc are real issues, so I come back to the question of who does this appeal to? |
There are some who you never will convince, not even if didn't rain at all for 6 months, we had temps exceeding 30c most of that time, and all crops in East Anglia perished. They are probably the same sort of people who still believe the earth is flat, the Holocaust never happened, the Moon landing was fake, and Covid never existed. Best just to ignore them and let them wallow in their own fantasy world. | | | |
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 19:18 - Jun 3 with 1752 views | Wicksy |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:51 - Jun 3 by rkc123 |
I genuinely don't get who they are appealing to with this climate change denial stuff, I think I saw recently that around 75% of people in the UK are concerned about climate change, with over 65% believing we are facing a climate change emergency. Even people I know who used to make the old 'If this is global warming bring it on' joke when we had a bit of warm weather now see that 35°C in May, no longer getting snow in winter, crops failing etc etc are real issues, so I come back to the question of who does this appeal to? |
I find it all utterly baffling. The ongoing debate about whether we should or should not keep extracting oil from the North Sea is so short-sighted.
Yes there may be another 20/30/50 years worth of oil there but we are going to have to make the switch to renewables eventually. By 'kicking the can down the road' for another few decades we're just compounding the problem for future generations who we've already royally screwed by our inaction to date.
It's now reported that Net Zero will provide over 1 million job opportunities with wages about 10% above national average, adding over £100 billion to GDP.
What's not to like?
We've done enough damage - just f**king get on with it. |  |
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 20:08 - Jun 3 with 1641 views | Guthrum |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:51 - Jun 3 by rkc123 |
I genuinely don't get who they are appealing to with this climate change denial stuff, I think I saw recently that around 75% of people in the UK are concerned about climate change, with over 65% believing we are facing a climate change emergency. Even people I know who used to make the old 'If this is global warming bring it on' joke when we had a bit of warm weather now see that 35°C in May, no longer getting snow in winter, crops failing etc etc are real issues, so I come back to the question of who does this appeal to? |
Those who think it would be good to have people going down coal mines again and those who think there's an endless supply of easily extracted oil in the North Sea. |  |
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 20:20 - Jun 3 with 1587 views | Mark |
I read that yesterday after Ipswich was hit by a flash flood, shortly after the hottest May days on record. |  | | |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 21:09 - Jun 3 with 1442 views | vapour_trail |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:45 - Jun 3 by itfc_bucks |
Being pig-ignorant of the rapidly oncoming climate emergency is not virtue. |
It absolutely is to some people around you, bucks. Prick knows exactly what it’s doing. [Post edited 3 Jun 21:21]
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 21:27 - Jun 3 with 1372 views | itfc_bucks |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 21:09 - Jun 3 by vapour_trail |
It absolutely is to some people around you, bucks. Prick knows exactly what it’s doing. [Post edited 3 Jun 21:21]
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I genuinely despair at the moment - we get the politicians we deserve, so having seen Brexit has been a can of shyyyte, if people decide to give Number Ten to the bloke who instigated that whole omnishambles, the. They deserve everything that they get coming.
I'm in a good job, I'm on a decent wedge.
I'll be ok.
The mugs who gleefully cheer him in will be utterly fecked. [Post edited 3 Jun 21:27]
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 21:33 - Jun 3 with 1337 views | BackToRussia |
Fvcking clowns. They're only in charge for another year or so though, right? But basically means Suffolk is without governance for a year. |  |
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 21:35 - Jun 3 with 1329 views | vapour_trail |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 19:18 - Jun 3 by Wicksy |
I find it all utterly baffling. The ongoing debate about whether we should or should not keep extracting oil from the North Sea is so short-sighted.
Yes there may be another 20/30/50 years worth of oil there but we are going to have to make the switch to renewables eventually. By 'kicking the can down the road' for another few decades we're just compounding the problem for future generations who we've already royally screwed by our inaction to date.
It's now reported that Net Zero will provide over 1 million job opportunities with wages about 10% above national average, adding over £100 billion to GDP.
What's not to like?
We've done enough damage - just f**king get on with it. |
The biggest irony in all of this for me, is that significant climate change, which is looking increasingly inevitable, will accelerate migration of people like nothing we’ve ever seen. People will literally have to move.
The fckwits that kick back on fighting climate change are the same fckwits that blame immigrants for whatever is in front of them.
Ever decreasing circles. | |
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 21:46 - Jun 3 with 1249 views | Plums |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 21:35 - Jun 3 by vapour_trail |
The biggest irony in all of this for me, is that significant climate change, which is looking increasingly inevitable, will accelerate migration of people like nothing we’ve ever seen. People will literally have to move.
The fckwits that kick back on fighting climate change are the same fckwits that blame immigrants for whatever is in front of them.
Ever decreasing circles. |
But the fossil fuel lobbyists will be delighted |  |
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 21:50 - Jun 3 with 1229 views | MattinLondon |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 21:46 - Jun 3 by Plums |
But the fossil fuel lobbyists will be delighted |
And then they’ll be shameless enough to tell us to watch our carbon footprint. |  | | |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 21:59 - Jun 3 with 1187 views | Freddies_Ears |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 21:27 - Jun 3 by itfc_bucks |
I genuinely despair at the moment - we get the politicians we deserve, so having seen Brexit has been a can of shyyyte, if people decide to give Number Ten to the bloke who instigated that whole omnishambles, the. They deserve everything that they get coming.
I'm in a good job, I'm on a decent wedge.
I'll be ok.
The mugs who gleefully cheer him in will be utterly fecked. [Post edited 3 Jun 21:27]
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Sadly, I have to agree with you.
I would far rather have a caring, socialist govt that actually gives opportunities to those with low expectations. Yeah, it would cost in tax but so be it.
But, if Farage fools the uninformed and ill-educated, then my solace is they'll be paying for my lifestyle. I wish it weren't so, obvs. | | | |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 22:25 - Jun 3 with 1106 views | BlueBadger |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:51 - Jun 3 by rkc123 |
I genuinely don't get who they are appealing to with this climate change denial stuff, I think I saw recently that around 75% of people in the UK are concerned about climate change, with over 65% believing we are facing a climate change emergency. Even people I know who used to make the old 'If this is global warming bring it on' joke when we had a bit of warm weather now see that 35°C in May, no longer getting snow in winter, crops failing etc etc are real issues, so I come back to the question of who does this appeal to? |
Idiots.
Or, as they prefer to be called 'people with very real concerns' |  |
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 22:56 - Jun 3 with 1001 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Same in Essex, but they can’t give you a GP in the same week let alone green energy. Reform are F**wits but in the meantime people are on here cheerleading Charlie boy as an environmentalist whilst he blocks renewables on royal land, and rakes it in on wind farms slowing down investment, turns up to food banks in a helicopter, and has the carbon footprint of 38 Brits.
The top 100 billionaires have the carbon output of France and make you feel guilty for running a 1.3 Quashqui and going to Spain once a year. I know you are posting this to stir the pot, but until the elite take it seriously we are doomed. Buying a Chinese EV made from subsidised coal powered energy and forced labour will not save the world.
Apologies for being cynical. [Post edited 3 Jun 22:58]
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 23:44 - Jun 3 with 925 views | DJR |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 18:51 - Jun 3 by rkc123 |
I genuinely don't get who they are appealing to with this climate change denial stuff, I think I saw recently that around 75% of people in the UK are concerned about climate change, with over 65% believing we are facing a climate change emergency. Even people I know who used to make the old 'If this is global warming bring it on' joke when we had a bit of warm weather now see that 35°C in May, no longer getting snow in winter, crops failing etc etc are real issues, so I come back to the question of who does this appeal to? |
A recent survey by John Curtice, the BBC polling guru, found Reform has a ceiling of around 30 per cent because the views of its supporters do not reflect the mainstream but as he pointed out that is enough to win a general election under FPTP with the fragmentation of the vote. [Post edited 3 Jun 23:45]
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 07:39 - Jun 4 with 752 views | Guthrum |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 20:20 - Jun 3 by Mark |
I read that yesterday after Ipswich was hit by a flash flood, shortly after the hottest May days on record. |
The ground gets baked hard, lots of rain comes down at once and cannot soak in. Instant flood. | |
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 08:11 - Jun 4 with 642 views | Steve_M |
There was a good bit in the FT yesterday about coastal erosion, and how it is increasing rapidly. It featured Thorpeness as an example. |  |
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 08:14 - Jun 4 with 627 views | Swansea_Blue |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 19:18 - Jun 3 by Wicksy |
I find it all utterly baffling. The ongoing debate about whether we should or should not keep extracting oil from the North Sea is so short-sighted.
Yes there may be another 20/30/50 years worth of oil there but we are going to have to make the switch to renewables eventually. By 'kicking the can down the road' for another few decades we're just compounding the problem for future generations who we've already royally screwed by our inaction to date.
It's now reported that Net Zero will provide over 1 million job opportunities with wages about 10% above national average, adding over £100 billion to GDP.
What's not to like?
We've done enough damage - just f**king get on with it. |
Not “will provide” - already is providing, as those figures are for 2025. And it’s the second quickest growing sector after high tech, increasing at about 10% per year. Meanwhile the fossil fuel industry provides a gva of £28billion and is in long term structural decline with a forecasted contraction of 7% per year. As you say, the North Sea is a mature basin and is largely done, bar a few isolated pockets.
It’s ludicrous. If you could come into it cold with no influence from lobbyists and take the politics out of it, nobody in their right mind would think we need to try to invigorate our fossil fuel industry. And that’s just from an economic position without considering the benefits of not burning as much fossil fuel (GHG contributions, particulates and public health, etc).
The fact that the issue is being given serious air time shows the strength of the corporate lobbyists and bad faith politicians to promote ideas bad for our wellbeing and wealth. And we see that play out in other areas too (immigration the obvious one). Yet they recruit willing supporters from the people despite these being the people who will lose our, which is just maddening. |  |
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| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 08:31 - Jun 4 with 587 views | Swansea_Blue |
| “I’m getting rid of the climate emergency declaration- it’s virtue signall on 21:59 - Jun 3 by Freddies_Ears |
Sadly, I have to agree with you.
I would far rather have a caring, socialist govt that actually gives opportunities to those with low expectations. Yeah, it would cost in tax but so be it.
But, if Farage fools the uninformed and ill-educated, then my solace is they'll be paying for my lifestyle. I wish it weren't so, obvs. |
Would it cost in tax though? The hit to the economy from political decisions taken over the last 16 years has cost the treasury many £billions per year, which has been responded to with massive cost cuts and tax burden increases on individuals (driven by freezing tax thresholds mainly). Yet sensible decisions that provided opportunities, rather than remove them, would add value to the economy and generate more for the Treasury. | |
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