| McKenna step down!! on 19:38 - Jun 10 with 962 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| McKenna step down!! on 18:12 - Jun 10 by FlittonBlue |
Times like this you look back trying to make sense of it all...those quotes in press conferences...every piece of body language will now be poured over.
Just sounds like 5 years in charge of Town and the bloke is exhausted - wont be going anywhere else for at least a year or else the buy out clause will be activated.
The next person in will have big shoes to follow, but will also have a club in the position a lot of managers would love to inherit. Thanks Kieran, you will always be welcome back at Portman Road |
After 5 years you don't just walk out leaving this degree of chaos in your wake unless there's politics afoot. |  |
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| McKenna step down!! on 19:54 - Jun 10 with 891 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| McKenna step down!! on 19:38 - Jun 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
After 5 years you don't just walk out leaving this degree of chaos in your wake unless there's politics afoot. |
No-one's taken a break due to burnout ever? |  |
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| McKenna step down!! on 19:55 - Jun 10 with 887 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| McKenna step down!! on 19:54 - Jun 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No-one's taken a break due to burnout ever? |
Of course they have but sorry, this fails the sniff test! | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 19:56 - Jun 10 with 887 views | BackToRussia |
| McKenna step down!! on 19:55 - Jun 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Of course they have but sorry, this fails the sniff test! |
Don't be a tw@t. |  |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:03 - Jun 10 with 834 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna step down!! on 19:54 - Jun 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No-one's taken a break due to burnout ever? |
They haven't at 39 as a manager after promotion back to the prem though.
IF he goes on a break, good luck to him and fair play,. But if he's done a morsy then the clubs been fked again and being nice. |  |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:14 - Jun 10 with 781 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| McKenna step down!! on 20:03 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
They haven't at 39 as a manager after promotion back to the prem though.
IF he goes on a break, good luck to him and fair play,. But if he's done a morsy then the clubs been fked again and being nice. |
What a silly comment. Loads and loads of people leave their jobs due to burnout, even at 39 and having achieved something. It might be the hard work and stress of doing it added to that burnout.
There's no reason and no evidence to cast aspersions on his motives and character. | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:19 - Jun 10 with 755 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| McKenna step down!! on 19:56 - Jun 10 by BackToRussia |
Don't be a tw@t. |
So you're saying it isn't possible, time will tell. | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:20 - Jun 10 with 742 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| McKenna step down!! on 20:19 - Jun 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
So you're saying it isn't possible, time will tell. |
No, he's not saying it isn't possible. He's saying don't be a tw@t.
Glad to help. | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:20 - Jun 10 with 747 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna step down!! on 20:14 - Jun 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
What a silly comment. Loads and loads of people leave their jobs due to burnout, even at 39 and having achieved something. It might be the hard work and stress of doing it added to that burnout.
There's no reason and no evidence to cast aspersions on his motives and character. |
I didn't disagree that loads of people haven't left their jobs due to burnout. I said I don't know of any 39 year old football managers who have left a club after getting promoted back to the prem.
I do hope it's genuine, There is every reason to doubt it, considering it's extremely unusual in this game. I'd be thinking the same regardless of who the manager or who the club was in question.
But we move on. Like a player leaving, what's done is done now. We concentrate on the future, Big decisions for Ashton to make. | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:27 - Jun 10 with 692 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| McKenna step down!! on 20:20 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
I didn't disagree that loads of people haven't left their jobs due to burnout. I said I don't know of any 39 year old football managers who have left a club after getting promoted back to the prem.
I do hope it's genuine, There is every reason to doubt it, considering it's extremely unusual in this game. I'd be thinking the same regardless of who the manager or who the club was in question.
But we move on. Like a player leaving, what's done is done now. We concentrate on the future, Big decisions for Ashton to make. |
How many 39 year olds have won promotion back to the Prem?
You've deliberately set the parameters so small that you can't lose. McKenna might even be the only one in that category!
If you're more realistic and look at 39 year old workaholics in high pressure jobs it's a different picture and not quite so bizarre. Once again you're leaping to the negative without a shred of evidence.
Until we know different, why not just give him the benefit of the doubt? What does speculating on conspiracy theories achieve? | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:32 - Jun 10 with 671 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna step down!! on 20:27 - Jun 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
How many 39 year olds have won promotion back to the Prem?
You've deliberately set the parameters so small that you can't lose. McKenna might even be the only one in that category!
If you're more realistic and look at 39 year old workaholics in high pressure jobs it's a different picture and not quite so bizarre. Once again you're leaping to the negative without a shred of evidence.
Until we know different, why not just give him the benefit of the doubt? What does speculating on conspiracy theories achieve? |
Not looking to achieve anything, just discussing todays absolutely massive news.
I find it odd, you don't, that's fine. | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:33 - Jun 10 with 661 views | Ryorry |
| McKenna step down!! on 20:20 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
I didn't disagree that loads of people haven't left their jobs due to burnout. I said I don't know of any 39 year old football managers who have left a club after getting promoted back to the prem.
I do hope it's genuine, There is every reason to doubt it, considering it's extremely unusual in this game. I'd be thinking the same regardless of who the manager or who the club was in question.
But we move on. Like a player leaving, what's done is done now. We concentrate on the future, Big decisions for Ashton to make. |
Every individual and their family are unique.
And on the football side, has any other manager ever had a PPRP on their CV? That must be exhausting and draining (and the workload having its effect on the family too).
As I said on a couple of other threads, seems to me he needs and deserves time out, with our understanding and good wishes. |  |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:41 - Jun 10 with 624 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| McKenna step down!! on 20:32 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Not looking to achieve anything, just discussing todays absolutely massive news.
I find it odd, you don't, that's fine. |
I find it odd. But you can find it odd without casting baseless aspersions on the character of a man who's brought so much joy to this club. | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:44 - Jun 10 with 611 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna step down!! on 20:41 - Jun 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I find it odd. But you can find it odd without casting baseless aspersions on the character of a man who's brought so much joy to this club. |
If you find it odd then you feel the same but i dunno, don't want to say it? I don't really see how you agree it's odd but then don't agree with me basically saying it's odd.
Let's leave it here Flash, we can keep going all night me and you lol.
Think we can both agree, he's done a ridiculous job here, it's a massive shame he's done this but we can only look forward now | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:49 - Jun 10 with 572 views | BackToRussia |
| McKenna step down!! on 20:19 - Jun 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
So you're saying it isn't possible, time will tell. |
I'm saying it's not really any of your business at this present time, and to respect a man who has done great things at, probably, no small personal cost, to give you moments of joy in your life. | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:55 - Jun 10 with 536 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| McKenna step down!! on 20:44 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
If you find it odd then you feel the same but i dunno, don't want to say it? I don't really see how you agree it's odd but then don't agree with me basically saying it's odd.
Let's leave it here Flash, we can keep going all night me and you lol.
Think we can both agree, he's done a ridiculous job here, it's a massive shame he's done this but we can only look forward now |
You've accused me of feeling the same as you but don't want to say, then said leave it there so I can't respond?! Cheeky!
Odd as in unusual, shocking even. But that doesn't equate to a conspiracy theory that he's done the dirty on the club in some way.
I think he's leaving because he's addicted to cheese and wants to fly to the moon because he thinks it's made of it. I have as much evidence for that as your theory. | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:55 - Jun 10 with 538 views | Vic |
| McKenna step down!! on 18:46 - Jun 10 by burnbudgiesburn |
This is the situation for me, I absolutely agree and was always worried that the fear of 2/2 relegations on the CV was behind the interest from his agent toward Fulham.
Once it became clear they weren't going to pay the comp and we would not allow him to just go he did the only thing remaining and fair enough.
It's early enough to allow us to plan for next season. Cheers for the memories Kieran. |
Doesn’t look like that’s the case - the club knew a couple of weeks ago. |  |
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| McKenna step down!! on 20:57 - Jun 10 with 525 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna step down!! on 20:55 - Jun 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You've accused me of feeling the same as you but don't want to say, then said leave it there so I can't respond?! Cheeky!
Odd as in unusual, shocking even. But that doesn't equate to a conspiracy theory that he's done the dirty on the club in some way.
I think he's leaving because he's addicted to cheese and wants to fly to the moon because he thinks it's made of it. I have as much evidence for that as your theory. |
You've accused me of feeling the same as you but don't want to say, then said leave it there so I can't respond?! Cheeky!
haha fair play
he does like cheese KM so you could be onto something | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 21:01 - Jun 10 with 484 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| McKenna step down!! on 20:03 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
They haven't at 39 as a manager after promotion back to the prem though.
IF he goes on a break, good luck to him and fair play,. But if he's done a morsy then the clubs been fked again and being nice. |
This can only be said by someone who has never held a high pressure, senior management position. |  | | |
| McKenna step down!! on 21:31 - Jun 10 with 390 views | HighgateBlue |
| McKenna step down!! on 18:03 - Jun 10 by GeoffSentence |
What have we done to him?
Leaving for another club I could see but taking time out from footy I did not
I wonder if there any constraints on his future employment as he has left whilst under contract |
Quite. Love the guy, wish him the best, and all that.
But if he'd gone to Fulham the club would have made millions. As it is, he's walked away for nothing. The worst of all worlds.
He certainly earned the right to stay, or to go somewhere better. Can't begrudge him that after all he's done, and moving somewhere else for the contractual fee is all part of the game. As it is with any player.
But he was being paid very very handsomely in the knowledge that we had a buyout fee in his contract, so we were guaranteed of getting value for him when he left. As it is, he's been allowed to tear up his contract and leave for nothing. And presumably get a plum job once the sackings happen in the Premier League.
There's no way we'd let a key player move on for nothing whilst under contract. Well, unless you count the Morsy debacle.
Hugely disappointing on so many levels. I wonder if we'll ever know the full story. Rumours will abound, I am quite sure.
Can anyone think of anything remotely similar that's happened? (Apart from ill health, bereavement, or just old age?) |  | | |
| McKenna step down!! on 21:34 - Jun 10 with 360 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna step down!! on 21:01 - Jun 10 by SuffolkPunchFC |
This can only be said by someone who has never held a high pressure, senior management position. |
Not sure how being in that position makes any difference when discussing a sport in which it's incredibly rare managers 'take a break' when they aren't sacked. | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 21:36 - Jun 10 with 354 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| McKenna step down!! on 21:31 - Jun 10 by HighgateBlue |
Quite. Love the guy, wish him the best, and all that.
But if he'd gone to Fulham the club would have made millions. As it is, he's walked away for nothing. The worst of all worlds.
He certainly earned the right to stay, or to go somewhere better. Can't begrudge him that after all he's done, and moving somewhere else for the contractual fee is all part of the game. As it is with any player.
But he was being paid very very handsomely in the knowledge that we had a buyout fee in his contract, so we were guaranteed of getting value for him when he left. As it is, he's been allowed to tear up his contract and leave for nothing. And presumably get a plum job once the sackings happen in the Premier League.
There's no way we'd let a key player move on for nothing whilst under contract. Well, unless you count the Morsy debacle.
Hugely disappointing on so many levels. I wonder if we'll ever know the full story. Rumours will abound, I am quite sure.
Can anyone think of anything remotely similar that's happened? (Apart from ill health, bereavement, or just old age?) |
He's not a slave FFS! If he wants a break he's entitled to a break. As others have suggested, he might be burnt out. You don't force someone to keep working in that situation. This isn't 1930's Germany! Feck the £8m. | |
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| McKenna step down!! on 21:56 - Jun 10 with 299 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| McKenna step down!! on 21:34 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Not sure how being in that position makes any difference when discussing a sport in which it's incredibly rare managers 'take a break' when they aren't sacked. |
Football management is a high pressure, senior management position. Those types of positions lead to burnout and unbelievable mental pressure. It’s entirely relevant.
You need to have lived through it to understand it, and why it may well be 100% why Kieran’s decided he needs a break. | | | |
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