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Sink it 20:14 - Jun 16 with 777 viewsKropotkin123

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Sink it on 20:34 - Jun 16 with 667 viewsMookamoo

With what? Have we actually got any functioning warships at the moment?
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Sink it on 20:35 - Jun 16 with 657 viewsGlasgowBlue

Sink it on 20:34 - Jun 16 by Mookamoo

With what? Have we actually got any functioning warships at the moment?


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Sink it on 20:40 - Jun 16 with 610 viewsKropotkin123

Sink it on 20:34 - Jun 16 by Mookamoo

With what? Have we actually got any functioning warships at the moment?


I get the point, and 100% agree with bringing the fleet up to standard. But that said, we have submarines capable of taking it out. Doing so with another warship would be risky.

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Sink it on 20:45 - Jun 16 with 578 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Isn't this actually a headline out of nothing?

The warship attempted to make contact with and warn the approaching yacht and then fired the warning shots with rifles.

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Sink it on 20:47 - Jun 16 with 563 viewsbaxterbasics

Sink it on 20:40 - Jun 16 by Kropotkin123

I get the point, and 100% agree with bringing the fleet up to standard. But that said, we have submarines capable of taking it out. Doing so with another warship would be risky.


Would taking it out from the air be feasible?

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Sink it on 20:54 - Jun 16 with 521 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Sink it on 20:47 - Jun 16 by baxterbasics

Would taking it out from the air be feasible?


Taking it out at all would have huge ramifications ... just like if the frigate had sunk the yacht (at which point sinking the frigate would have legitimacy).

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Sink it on 20:57 - Jun 16 with 497 viewsFreddies_Ears

Sink it on 20:47 - Jun 16 by baxterbasics

Would taking it out from the air be feasible?


Sure. But we don't have a missile defence system to cope with the incoming nukes the next day.
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Sink it on 20:58 - Jun 16 with 497 viewsKropotkin123

Sink it on 20:47 - Jun 16 by baxterbasics

Would taking it out from the air be feasible?


I don't think we have that capability...

Quick Google suggests we retired that missile class.

Due to the cost, probably better to replace with land and sea drones. Could build a more credible deterrent following Ukraine's model against Russian naval vessels.

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Sink it on 20:59 - Jun 16 with 487 viewsKropotkin123

Sink it on 20:57 - Jun 16 by Freddies_Ears

Sure. But we don't have a missile defence system to cope with the incoming nukes the next day.


Okay Neville, we have nukes. They aren't firing nukes. Just like they didn't when Turkey wiped one of their planes for violating their airspace.

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Sink it on 21:01 - Jun 16 with 471 viewsredrickstuhaart

Sink it on 20:57 - Jun 16 by Freddies_Ears

Sure. But we don't have a missile defence system to cope with the incoming nukes the next day.


The Russians dont have anti missile capacity to deal with our nukes either. And ours are more likely to work.

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Sink it on 21:04 - Jun 16 with 464 viewsKropotkin123

Sink it on 20:45 - Jun 16 by Nthsuffolkblue

Isn't this actually a headline out of nothing?

The warship attempted to make contact with and warn the approaching yacht and then fired the warning shots with rifles.


No, it is a complete and deliberate overreaction based on us seizing a shadow fleet boat.

If I attempted to make contact with a baby crawling towards me "dangerously", and then shot at it because it didn't listen, you'd think I was crazy, and you'd be right. It is a crazy action to take.
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Sink it on 21:04 - Jun 16 with 459 viewsSwansea_Blue

Sink it on 20:45 - Jun 16 by Nthsuffolkblue

Isn't this actually a headline out of nothing?

The warship attempted to make contact with and warn the approaching yacht and then fired the warning shots with rifles.


It sounds like people would rather blow it up and kill everyone on board causing a massive international crisis (whilst leaving widows and kids without a father/mother).

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Sink it on 21:06 - Jun 16 with 442 viewsNthQldITFC

Sink it on 20:34 - Jun 16 by Mookamoo

With what? Have we actually got any functioning warships at the moment?


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Sink it on 21:09 - Jun 16 with 428 viewsKropotkin123

Sink it on 21:04 - Jun 16 by Swansea_Blue

It sounds like people would rather blow it up and kill everyone on board causing a massive international crisis (whilst leaving widows and kids without a father/mother).


I'd rather take it out because of multiple hostile instances. You can only ignore them for so long. Russia have killed people on our soil. They view us as the enemy. They need to go back to Russian waters. They won't without credible deterrents. Part of the credibility is using it.

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