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O'Neil and the lack of charisma 09:50 - Jun 25 with 4490 viewsFlowerofScotland

Is anyone else concerned that a poor start will see little in the way of charity from fans for this man, given his history and the way in which McKenna was always supported through thick and thin?
I can imagine disquiet at boardroom level by xmas if we find ourselves rooted to the foot of the table and positivity from the fans has dwained.
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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 11:25 - Jun 25 with 988 viewsSitfcB

This could be the smarmy post lads.

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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 11:28 - Jun 25 with 976 viewsBasingstokeBlue

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 11:25 - Jun 25 by SitfcB

This could be the smarmy post lads.


I had wondered if the O.P. was deliberately avoiding the word!

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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 11:37 - Jun 25 with 949 viewsnrb1985

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 10:36 - Jun 25 by FlowerofScotland

I won't take offence at that because I'm both relieved and proud to be a 'Boomer'.


Yes, we can all tell by the way that almost unanimously everyone disagrees with you but you remain adamant we're all wrong.
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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 11:40 - Jun 25 with 935 viewsBasingstokeBlue

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 11:37 - Jun 25 by nrb1985

Yes, we can all tell by the way that almost unanimously everyone disagrees with you but you remain adamant we're all wrong.


Is he darkhorse in disguise?

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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 11:53 - Jun 25 with 921 viewsRorschach

No disrespect to McKenna but he was hardly David Lee Roth in a press conference...

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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 12:08 - Jun 25 with 872 viewsScuzzer

Where exactly does the role of 'charisma' fit in with a football manager? A quality that is required by a pop princess but not football managers...speaks a lot about the pervasiveness of the celebrity culture that we willingly bow our knee to.

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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 12:16 - Jun 25 with 845 viewsNthQldITFC

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 11:40 - Jun 25 by BasingstokeBlue

Is he darkhorse in disguise?


That's a cheep shot. Cheep, cheep shot.

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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 12:33 - Jun 25 with 822 viewsringwoodblue

Wonder if he will use that quote from another famous football manager (can’t remember who)

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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 12:35 - Jun 25 with 807 viewsbsw72

No - I remember similar being said down the years about other managers based on their public personas.

How someone comes across in a media situation is very different to how they interact with players on a training ground and from the dugout.
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I’m not sure that GON…. on 13:50 - Jun 25 with 751 viewsronnyd

I’m not sure that GON…. on 10:03 - Jun 25 by Bloots

….has any less “charisma” than KM.

KM was hardly an effervescent character, I suspect your view may be clouded by his success.

Obviously GON doesn’t have any credit in the bank, so a poor start will inevitably lead to some fans getting on his back. Personally I’ll be comparing what he does to how KM got on during his Premier League season, it will be the only way to remain sane.

Also, I’ve got no idea what “dwained” means.


Perhaps he has a typing impediment.
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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 14:28 - Jun 25 with 702 viewsPaulYoungs

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 10:29 - Jun 25 by FlowerofScotland

You're confusing volume with charisma. It's a modern world and an easy mistake to make.


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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 19:31 - Jun 25 with 624 viewsarmchaircritic59

Well Carlo Ancelloti isn't known for his non stop joke cracking, but he's not had a bad career. I couldn't care less if Gary comes across as a wet fish ( which he most certainly doesn't) if he keeps us afloat in the PL this coming season. If lack of charisma is all someone has to dig him out for, maybe they should keep quiet instead. Let's all wait and see. In the meantime I'll leave you with a latest result.

Keeping up teams in the PL.

G O'N 2/3
KM 0/1
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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 08:26 - Jun 26 with 513 viewsnrb1985

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 19:31 - Jun 25 by armchaircritic59

Well Carlo Ancelloti isn't known for his non stop joke cracking, but he's not had a bad career. I couldn't care less if Gary comes across as a wet fish ( which he most certainly doesn't) if he keeps us afloat in the PL this coming season. If lack of charisma is all someone has to dig him out for, maybe they should keep quiet instead. Let's all wait and see. In the meantime I'll leave you with a latest result.

Keeping up teams in the PL.

G O'N 2/3
KM 0/1


Carlo was also a world class player which commands respect too - albeit it didn’t our Roy any good…

I would have GON as 2/2 no?

He left wolves before they went down I thought?
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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 08:50 - Jun 26 with 486 viewsChurchman

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 08:26 - Jun 26 by nrb1985

Carlo was also a world class player which commands respect too - albeit it didn’t our Roy any good…

I would have GON as 2/2 no?

He left wolves before they went down I thought?


If you are no good at the job any ‘world class player’ respect will be down the pan in no time. See Bobby Moore and the vast majority of great players who were hopeless at management - including our very own Jackie Milburn.

O’Neil can have the charisma of a paving slab for all I care. Is he any good is all that counts. As it goes, I never got the feeling that McKenna had any charisma whatsoever, but boy did he command respect and that’s crucial.
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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 08:54 - Jun 26 with 477 viewsFlowerofScotland

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 08:50 - Jun 26 by Churchman

If you are no good at the job any ‘world class player’ respect will be down the pan in no time. See Bobby Moore and the vast majority of great players who were hopeless at management - including our very own Jackie Milburn.

O’Neil can have the charisma of a paving slab for all I care. Is he any good is all that counts. As it goes, I never got the feeling that McKenna had any charisma whatsoever, but boy did he command respect and that’s crucial.


You don't garner respect without charisma. You're confusing being loud like Ashton with charisma.
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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 09:01 - Jun 26 with 472 viewsFlowerofScotland

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 08:50 - Jun 26 by Churchman

If you are no good at the job any ‘world class player’ respect will be down the pan in no time. See Bobby Moore and the vast majority of great players who were hopeless at management - including our very own Jackie Milburn.

O’Neil can have the charisma of a paving slab for all I care. Is he any good is all that counts. As it goes, I never got the feeling that McKenna had any charisma whatsoever, but boy did he command respect and that’s crucial.


You don't garner respect without charisma. You're confusing being loud like Ashton with charisma.
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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 09:42 - Jun 26 with 452 viewsNthQldITFC

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 09:01 - Jun 26 by FlowerofScotland

You don't garner respect without charisma. You're confusing being loud like Ashton with charisma.


You were wrong first time.

Think Alf Ramsey.

Think Gordon Brown.

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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 09:53 - Jun 26 with 440 viewsFlowerofScotland

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 09:42 - Jun 26 by NthQldITFC

You were wrong first time.

Think Alf Ramsey.

Think Gordon Brown.


Hate to disappoint you but I'm not wrong trust me.
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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 10:16 - Jun 26 with 419 viewsClareBlue

Is there any other job that before you've even started your work there is speculation as to how you might react to a hyperthetical situations 4 months in the future?
Just give him a chance to do the job.
If it is all going pear shaped at Christmas then the club will have to make decisions. That's the nature of the beast. But surely we should be optimistic for the season until proved otherwise.
What's the point in getting promotion then spending the pre season ruminating on potential negatives of our manager of players. It's a bit weird, to be honest.
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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 10:38 - Jun 26 with 404 viewsFlowerofScotland

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 10:16 - Jun 26 by ClareBlue

Is there any other job that before you've even started your work there is speculation as to how you might react to a hyperthetical situations 4 months in the future?
Just give him a chance to do the job.
If it is all going pear shaped at Christmas then the club will have to make decisions. That's the nature of the beast. But surely we should be optimistic for the season until proved otherwise.
What's the point in getting promotion then spending the pre season ruminating on potential negatives of our manager of players. It's a bit weird, to be honest.


The real reasons for McKenna's departure may never see the light of day, but fans have every right to be concerned in my opinion.
He walked away from a struggling Wolves and then from Strasbourg after less than 6 months in charge.
It feels like he is overly eager to prove somebody wrong, rather than being considered and clear in his thinking. Hope I'm wrong but this could get very messy, very quickly.
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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 10:40 - Jun 26 with 402 viewsnrb1985

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 10:38 - Jun 26 by FlowerofScotland

The real reasons for McKenna's departure may never see the light of day, but fans have every right to be concerned in my opinion.
He walked away from a struggling Wolves and then from Strasbourg after less than 6 months in charge.
It feels like he is overly eager to prove somebody wrong, rather than being considered and clear in his thinking. Hope I'm wrong but this could get very messy, very quickly.


Give it a rest ffs mate.

The EFL fixtures came out this week and you have WBA to look forward to at home first day.

Suggest you focus on that.
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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 10:43 - Jun 26 with 393 viewsnrb1985

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 08:50 - Jun 26 by Churchman

If you are no good at the job any ‘world class player’ respect will be down the pan in no time. See Bobby Moore and the vast majority of great players who were hopeless at management - including our very own Jackie Milburn.

O’Neil can have the charisma of a paving slab for all I care. Is he any good is all that counts. As it goes, I never got the feeling that McKenna had any charisma whatsoever, but boy did he command respect and that’s crucial.


Don’t disagree but I think a world class playing career probably means people are listening from the off.

Whereas the McKennas, Potters and Roseniors of this world maybe aren’t afforded that luxury by top players. Wrongly imo but never the less that’s how the world works.
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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 10:44 - Jun 26 with 393 viewsFlowerofScotland

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 10:40 - Jun 26 by nrb1985

Give it a rest ffs mate.

The EFL fixtures came out this week and you have WBA to look forward to at home first day.

Suggest you focus on that.


Ya dweeble idiot
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I’m not sure that GON…. on 10:51 - Jun 26 with 373 viewsWeWereZombies

I’m not sure that GON…. on 10:03 - Jun 25 by Bloots

….has any less “charisma” than KM.

KM was hardly an effervescent character, I suspect your view may be clouded by his success.

Obviously GON doesn’t have any credit in the bank, so a poor start will inevitably lead to some fans getting on his back. Personally I’ll be comparing what he does to how KM got on during his Premier League season, it will be the only way to remain sane.

Also, I’ve got no idea what “dwained” means.



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O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 10:54 - Jun 26 with 366 viewsnrb1985

O'Neil and the lack of charisma on 10:44 - Jun 26 by FlowerofScotland

Ya dweeble idiot


Yes mate, it’s me that looks the idiot in this thread.
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