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Mexico England 19:49 - Jul 3 with 4990 viewsgarygboltonblue

Channel 4 news just reported that the kick off is being brought forward 6 hours due to storms forecast
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Mexico England on 20:40 - Jul 3 with 780 viewsZx1988

Mexico England on 20:33 - Jul 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

This would be a disaster for us. Sports science is key and England would have had a very important recovery road map for this game, let alone with the other conditions we are about to face. We already played the day after Mexico who haven’t travelled.

Scattered storms at 40%, what is this nonsense? The BS games have started already! I bet they are in FIFAs ear.

Not to mention my pregame plans for Brazil Norway leading into kickoff.

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[Post edited 3 Jul 20:34]


FIFA pointing to 'we can rearrange any match for any reason' in the tournament rules feels especially telling. Almost as if even they don't believe their own spiel.

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Mexico England on 20:41 - Jul 3 with 768 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Mexico England on 20:33 - Jul 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

This would be a disaster for us. Sports science is key and England would have had a very important recovery road map for this game, let alone with the other conditions we are about to face. We already played the day after Mexico who haven’t travelled.

Scattered storms at 40%, what is this nonsense? The BS games have started already! I bet they are in FIFAs ear.

Not to mention my pregame plans for Brazil Norway leading into kickoff.

Nightmare!
[Post edited 3 Jul 20:34]


The Brazil Norway kick off would be adjusted to ensure there is no clash still.

I guess it's one of those things and a consequence of playing where the storm risk is too high to play when there is one.

I think England's preparation has been ruined by losing all right backs and not playing at altitude at all until Sunday whilst Mexico have been playing there all tournament. It's one of those typical home country advantages that come with hosting the tournament.

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Mexico England on 20:42 - Jul 3 with 767 viewsLeoMuff

Mexico England on 20:36 - Jul 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

It’s a 6pm kick off in a country of 130M


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Mexico England on 20:43 - Jul 3 with 754 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Mexico England on 20:41 - Jul 3 by Nthsuffolkblue

The Brazil Norway kick off would be adjusted to ensure there is no clash still.

I guess it's one of those things and a consequence of playing where the storm risk is too high to play when there is one.

I think England's preparation has been ruined by losing all right backs and not playing at altitude at all until Sunday whilst Mexico have been playing there all tournament. It's one of those typical home country advantages that come with hosting the tournament.


It’s forecast to rain, moving the game by 6 hours this late is insane.

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Mexico England on 20:43 - Jul 3 with 757 viewsZx1988

Mexico England on 20:39 - Jul 3 by darkhorse28

Up to 26, have you ever even tried to breath at 7000 ft???! .., seriously, day one you would get up a flight of stairs without blowing out your (mouth).

Let alone play football in 26 degree heat. Unless you want them to come home it’s woeful for our chances.

The only slight glimmer is less time spent at altitude which may be a small crumb of comfort.

But seriously…, YOU not having to stay up late V’s our lions getting sawn off the log, what a time to be alive.


It's actually the coolest part of the afternoon:



Stop being so contrarian. It's more than a little wearing.

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Mexico England on 20:46 - Jul 3 with 728 viewsKing_of_Portman_Rd

Viewing figures and sponsorships will be the determining factor is this.

Played games in storms alreasy this WC havent they? France’s first gane had a 2 hour delay for a storm if i remember correctly.
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Mexico England on 20:48 - Jul 3 with 716 viewsZx1988

Mexico England on 20:46 - Jul 3 by King_of_Portman_Rd

Viewing figures and sponsorships will be the determining factor is this.

Played games in storms alreasy this WC havent they? France’s first gane had a 2 hour delay for a storm if i remember correctly.


I agree that that's probably one of the key factors.

I'm a little surprised that this wasn't considered earlier, though, given that the draw made this match-up a very strong possibility right from the outset.

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Mexico England on 20:48 - Jul 3 with 713 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Mexico England on 20:43 - Jul 3 by Zx1988

It's actually the coolest part of the afternoon:



Stop being so contrarian. It's more than a little wearing.


The biggest irony is that darkhorse's chosen contrarian temperature is the one from the original kick off time rather than the proposed changed one!

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Mexico England on 20:49 - Jul 3 with 703 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Mexico England on 20:43 - Jul 3 by Zx1988

It's actually the coolest part of the afternoon:



Stop being so contrarian. It's more than a little wearing.


'infinitymph' seems terrifyingly windy though.

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Mexico England on 20:50 - Jul 3 with 697 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Mexico England on 20:43 - Jul 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

It’s forecast to rain, moving the game by 6 hours this late is insane.


Is there a reason that games get suspended when there is a thunderstorm in the US/Mexico? I am not aware of that happening elsewhere? Is there a higher risk of lightning hitting spectators or players for some odd reason?

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Mexico England on 20:50 - Jul 3 with 691 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Mexico England on 20:46 - Jul 3 by King_of_Portman_Rd

Viewing figures and sponsorships will be the determining factor is this.

Played games in storms alreasy this WC havent they? France’s first gane had a 2 hour delay for a storm if i remember correctly.


No chance, Mexico in FIFAs ear would be.

The viewership in North America would be more in prime time slot and not like England won’t watch at 1am

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Mexico England on 20:52 - Jul 3 with 668 viewsZx1988

Mexico England on 20:50 - Jul 3 by Nthsuffolkblue

Is there a reason that games get suspended when there is a thunderstorm in the US/Mexico? I am not aware of that happening elsewhere? Is there a higher risk of lightning hitting spectators or players for some odd reason?


It's because North American thunderstorms are a completely different beast. They make English storms look like someone flicking the bathroom light on and off.

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Mexico England on 20:53 - Jul 3 with 658 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Mexico England on 20:49 - Jul 3 by Cheltenham_Blue

'infinitymph' seems terrifyingly windy though.


But at altitude the wind is hardly felt!

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Mexico England on 20:53 - Jul 3 with 656 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Mexico England on 20:50 - Jul 3 by Nthsuffolkblue

Is there a reason that games get suspended when there is a thunderstorm in the US/Mexico? I am not aware of that happening elsewhere? Is there a higher risk of lightning hitting spectators or players for some odd reason?


Weather is weather. Lightening within a certain radius, not many parts of the world face it during their regular seasons.

It’s so volatile in the summer with systems, warm air from the gulf hits what’s coming down from the north. Flying in the south this time of year is a nightmare.

I’m suspicious of this though, the weather forecast Sunday night does not warrant FIFA doing something unprecedented. Don’t underestimate how much it affects Englands preparations. Will be curious to hear the FAs response.
[Post edited 3 Jul 20:54]

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Mexico England on 20:55 - Jul 3 with 641 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Mexico England on 20:52 - Jul 3 by Zx1988

It's because North American thunderstorms are a completely different beast. They make English storms look like someone flicking the bathroom light on and off.


Correct.

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Mexico England on 20:56 - Jul 3 with 640 views_CliveBaker_

People are losing their fooking minds about the prospect of Mexico. Good side, in form, home advantage, tough conditions, all true, but you would be forgiven for thinking we’ve been told we’re starting on -4.

Recent results include a 1-0 against South Korea and a 1-0 against Australia. It’s a challenge for us, it’s not terminal. We’ve got a squad of fit, athletic, professional footballers. Tons of subs, 2 x 3 minute hydration breaks and 24 degree temperatures. Regardless of when we play there’s going to be the home crowd and altitude against us. We just need to go in there swinging, use our experience to kill momentum when we need to, defend our box better than we have, and let loose offensively. No fear.
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Mexico England on 20:56 - Jul 3 with 630 viewsyorkshireblue

Mexico England on 20:50 - Jul 3 by Nthsuffolkblue

Is there a reason that games get suspended when there is a thunderstorm in the US/Mexico? I am not aware of that happening elsewhere? Is there a higher risk of lightning hitting spectators or players for some odd reason?


In the US, if lighting strikes within 8 miles of the ground, the game must be postponed until 30 mins have passed since the last strike within 8 miles.

I assume the rules are the same for the Mexico & Canada games to ensure consistency.
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Mexico England on 20:58 - Jul 3 with 595 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Mexico England on 20:55 - Jul 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Correct.


So you are saying the lightning is worse and somehow more likely to strike spectators or players (rather than some lightning conductor on attached to the stadium. Or does the country that gave us Benjamin Franklin not know about lightning conductors?

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Mexico England on 21:00 - Jul 3 with 581 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Mexico England on 20:56 - Jul 3 by yorkshireblue

In the US, if lighting strikes within 8 miles of the ground, the game must be postponed until 30 mins have passed since the last strike within 8 miles.

I assume the rules are the same for the Mexico & Canada games to ensure consistency.


It's some legal health and safety ruling is it?

I can understand it on a golf course but not in a football ground. It doesn't happen in any other country does it?

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Mexico England on 21:04 - Jul 3 with 547 viewsMattinLondon

Mexico England on 20:39 - Jul 3 by darkhorse28

Up to 26, have you ever even tried to breath at 7000 ft???! .., seriously, day one you would get up a flight of stairs without blowing out your (mouth).

Let alone play football in 26 degree heat. Unless you want them to come home it’s woeful for our chances.

The only slight glimmer is less time spent at altitude which may be a small crumb of comfort.

But seriously…, YOU not having to stay up late V’s our lions getting sawn off the log, what a time to be alive.


7000ft - child’s play.

A few weeks ago I was 30,000ft up and I was able to breath with ease. Also, I ate a sandwicg, drank a Diet Coke and read a book. Easy.
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Mexico England on 21:06 - Jul 3 with 531 viewsStochesStotasBlewe

Mexico England on 20:56 - Jul 3 by _CliveBaker_

People are losing their fooking minds about the prospect of Mexico. Good side, in form, home advantage, tough conditions, all true, but you would be forgiven for thinking we’ve been told we’re starting on -4.

Recent results include a 1-0 against South Korea and a 1-0 against Australia. It’s a challenge for us, it’s not terminal. We’ve got a squad of fit, athletic, professional footballers. Tons of subs, 2 x 3 minute hydration breaks and 24 degree temperatures. Regardless of when we play there’s going to be the home crowd and altitude against us. We just need to go in there swinging, use our experience to kill momentum when we need to, defend our box better than we have, and let loose offensively. No fear.


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Mexico England on 21:07 - Jul 3 with 524 viewsSwansea_Blue

Mexico England on 20:48 - Jul 3 by Zx1988

I agree that that's probably one of the key factors.

I'm a little surprised that this wasn't considered earlier, though, given that the draw made this match-up a very strong possibility right from the outset.


That’s probably a good reason pointing to it NOT being a sly move to boost viewing figures. It makes no sense moving now just 2 days out, not with all the impact on existing logistics. Thunderstorms are forecast and have ben regular in the late afternoon/early evening (according to BBC pundits out there).

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Mexico England on 21:08 - Jul 3 with 514 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Mexico England on 20:58 - Jul 3 by Nthsuffolkblue

So you are saying the lightning is worse and somehow more likely to strike spectators or players (rather than some lightning conductor on attached to the stadium. Or does the country that gave us Benjamin Franklin not know about lightning conductors?


You’ll have to ask a meteorologist, it’s just much more frequent and volatile isn’t it? Rather than it being a bit windy one night in the 80s that wasn’t forecast properly.

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Mexico England on 21:09 - Jul 3 with 513 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Mexico England on 21:00 - Jul 3 by Nthsuffolkblue

It's some legal health and safety ruling is it?

I can understand it on a golf course but not in a football ground. It doesn't happen in any other country does it?


In the US they empty all the swimming pools if there is a lightning strike within 5 miles.

**Of people, not water**

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Mexico England on 21:09 - Jul 3 with 508 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Mexico England on 20:56 - Jul 3 by _CliveBaker_

People are losing their fooking minds about the prospect of Mexico. Good side, in form, home advantage, tough conditions, all true, but you would be forgiven for thinking we’ve been told we’re starting on -4.

Recent results include a 1-0 against South Korea and a 1-0 against Australia. It’s a challenge for us, it’s not terminal. We’ve got a squad of fit, athletic, professional footballers. Tons of subs, 2 x 3 minute hydration breaks and 24 degree temperatures. Regardless of when we play there’s going to be the home crowd and altitude against us. We just need to go in there swinging, use our experience to kill momentum when we need to, defend our box better than we have, and let loose offensively. No fear.


Sounds like Terry Butcher giving a rousing speech ahead of us playing Argentina!

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