| Zian Flemming 08:50 - Aug 26 with 4430 views | Lion |
I would be happy if we could get him in. He had a very decent return in a struggling Burnley team last year, pretty much as good as Liam Delap did for us. I would also be as happy to get him as i would if we could have somehow got Delap ( would've have to be a loan )
Maybe they would be interested in a little cash and / or a swap for Mehmeti, Palmer, ( we have a recall clause for Van Oevalen if needed ) Akpom
We must be approaching FFP limits particularly if we are getting Palacious.
Watch his ( Flemming ) highlights from last year, I think although arguably, possibly at his age Delap has a higher ceiling, Flemming is every bit as good.
Not sure why a few Town fans were not keen when reported he could be a target. As I have said, we do have to curtail to FFP and it has been as amazing transfer window so far, has it not?!
I think Flemming is probably going somewhere in this window, i'm not buying the slight calf strain, is it us? Watch this space. UTFT. [Post edited 26 Aug 8:54]
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| Zian Flemming on 09:09 - Aug 26 with 3234 views | Swansea_Blue |
He looks like a younger Willem Dafoe, so that's a yes from me. If we beat off any competition they would be green with envy, so we should goblin him up. |  |
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| Zian Flemming on 09:14 - Aug 26 with 3188 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Good player. Be more than happy with him. |  |
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| Zian Flemming on 09:18 - Aug 26 with 3117 views | Trequartista |
My first thought was not another Burnley promotion yo-yo player but hadn't realised he scored 11 premier league goals in a team that struggled badly, almost a carbon copy of Delap, so with time running out, I'd say this would be an ideal signing. |  |
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| Zian Flemming on 09:23 - Aug 26 with 3069 views | _CliveBaker_ |
Very good player. I imagine the fact he has played in the #10 position a lot in his career is also quite attractive. Gives us the obvious #9 addition but also cover for Enciso, as Egeli is still very raw. |  | | |
| Zian Flemming on 09:26 - Aug 26 with 2997 views | IpswichBlue18 |
Like him as a player, but not a deal I’d be keen to do at this stage of the window.
Crucial player for Burnley, who will be looking for a very inflated fee. At 28, they are believed to be asking for £20m +, feel there is better value out there.
But obviously if he’s the preferred option, I’d rather get it done than have no one come in may I add |  | | |
| Zian Flemming on 09:30 - Aug 26 with 2878 views | Blue_Heath |
Agree, really hope this is the striker we are in for unless somehow we can get Ueda. | |
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| Zian Flemming on 09:34 - Aug 26 with 2853 views | Guthrum |
| Zian Flemming on 09:26 - Aug 26 by IpswichBlue18 |
Like him as a player, but not a deal I’d be keen to do at this stage of the window.
Crucial player for Burnley, who will be looking for a very inflated fee. At 28, they are believed to be asking for £20m +, feel there is better value out there.
But obviously if he’s the preferred option, I’d rather get it done than have no one come in may I add |
£20m or so is not really an inflated fee for a decent CF signing with experience and a scoring record in the Prem any more. We paid that kind of sum for Emersonn (who lacks such experience), Forest have just shelled out twice that for Delap.
Better to get something done now than wait until next Tuesday, when time will be very tight and prices higher still. |  |
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| Zian Flemming on 09:37 - Aug 26 with 2830 views | Lion |
| Zian Flemming on 09:30 - Aug 26 by Blue_Heath |
Agree, really hope this is the striker we are in for unless somehow we can get Ueda. |
I loved Ueda's stats, his goalscoring last year compared to Ruud V N's last year in the dutch league, I hoped that with Maeda being here could help to attract him but after tenuous links about a month ago not seen him linked with us since, so presumed was a non goer sadly. Maybe the fact that Flemming has vast experience of English football would make him a better fit anyway. | |
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| Zian Flemming on 09:41 - Aug 26 with 2754 views | pointofblue |
| Zian Flemming on 09:26 - Aug 26 by IpswichBlue18 |
Like him as a player, but not a deal I’d be keen to do at this stage of the window.
Crucial player for Burnley, who will be looking for a very inflated fee. At 28, they are believed to be asking for £20m +, feel there is better value out there.
But obviously if he’s the preferred option, I’d rather get it done than have no one come in may I add |
Considering Delap is heading to Forest for £45m I'd say half that fee seems decent for someone with a similar record, and who can also cover the ten position. I appreciate him being older will affect the price to a degree. | |
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| Zian Flemming on 09:42 - Aug 26 with 2752 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
At this stage, getting any striker in with a track record of scoring goals in the Premier League can only be a good thing. Doesn't have to be the long-term solution - just has to contribute to keeping us up, which I think he can do. Emersonn has impressed me, so I'm more than happy with him being the main man with Flemming as his back-up. |  |
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| Zian Flemming on 09:42 - Aug 26 with 2751 views | Blue_Uprising |
I think he would be good for the way we need to play. Great chance conversion rate - right up there in top 3 last year. Scores a range of goals, a fair few good headers and clinical first time finishes.
Assume fancied over Ueda as he has Prem experience and scoring record. Also maybe Ueda wants another move to an established team and would be maybe £5m+ more expensive. |  | | |
| Zian Flemming on 09:48 - Aug 26 with 2668 views | Libero |
Personally, he's not for me - but if we sign him it's a great opportunity for Emersonn to establish himself, in a way that it wouldn't be if we signed someone of the quality of Ueda or Delap.
Edit: just gone and looked how he got on last year, as I was totally oblvious.
While I'm not a fan of the player, I will say that 11 premier league goals in 29 games in a relegated side *is* very impressive. [Post edited 26 Aug 9:50]
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| Zian Flemming on 09:56 - Aug 26 with 2595 views | jayessess |
I don't know that he's quite what we need in terms of the broader game plan. The whole frontline is built around the front 4 being excellent out of possession and particularly the '9' chasing and pressing hard.
That's not particularly Flemming's game, he's not a focal point for your out of possession work which I think we need from a striker. Worth noting that Sunderland's top scorer only got 7 last season, so whilst you don't want a guy who can't finish, it isn't the end of the world if your striker is an ordinary finisher who just fits your system. |  |
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| Zian Flemming on 10:08 - Aug 26 with 2450 views | Guthrum |
| Zian Flemming on 09:56 - Aug 26 by jayessess |
I don't know that he's quite what we need in terms of the broader game plan. The whole frontline is built around the front 4 being excellent out of possession and particularly the '9' chasing and pressing hard.
That's not particularly Flemming's game, he's not a focal point for your out of possession work which I think we need from a striker. Worth noting that Sunderland's top scorer only got 7 last season, so whilst you don't want a guy who can't finish, it isn't the end of the world if your striker is an ordinary finisher who just fits your system. |
There's probably got to be some flexibility - even during matches. Maybe have Emersonn wrestling with defenders for an hour or so, then bring on Fleming who can shoot from range and get on the end of crosses from Davis/Maeda/Clarke or Fatawu/McAteer. | |
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| Zian Flemming on 10:49 - Aug 26 with 2188 views | Blue_Heath |
| Zian Flemming on 09:37 - Aug 26 by Lion |
I loved Ueda's stats, his goalscoring last year compared to Ruud V N's last year in the dutch league, I hoped that with Maeda being here could help to attract him but after tenuous links about a month ago not seen him linked with us since, so presumed was a non goer sadly. Maybe the fact that Flemming has vast experience of English football would make him a better fit anyway. |
Perhaps, if Palacios does come and we get one of Flemming/Ueda that will be some transfer window. | |
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| Zian Flemming on 10:49 - Aug 26 with 2191 views | bluejacko |
| Zian Flemming on 09:56 - Aug 26 by jayessess |
I don't know that he's quite what we need in terms of the broader game plan. The whole frontline is built around the front 4 being excellent out of possession and particularly the '9' chasing and pressing hard.
That's not particularly Flemming's game, he's not a focal point for your out of possession work which I think we need from a striker. Worth noting that Sunderland's top scorer only got 7 last season, so whilst you don't want a guy who can't finish, it isn't the end of the world if your striker is an ordinary finisher who just fits your system. |
Isn’t GONNA mantra ‘flexibility’? To have someone come on and give defenders a whole new set of problems would be good wouldn’t it? | | | |
| Zian Flemming on 10:54 - Aug 26 with 2129 views | pointofblue |
| Zian Flemming on 10:49 - Aug 26 by Blue_Heath |
Perhaps, if Palacios does come and we get one of Flemming/Ueda that will be some transfer window. |
Still have gaps. We really need another FB/CB hybrid (akin to O'Shea) and right wing cover. Although Bakwa is apparently going to Lille I'm encouraged we were in for him. | |
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| Zian Flemming on 10:59 - Aug 26 with 2080 views | Libero |
| Zian Flemming on 10:49 - Aug 26 by Blue_Heath |
Perhaps, if Palacios does come and we get one of Flemming/Ueda that will be some transfer window. |
If we got Ueda I'd kiss Gary O'Neil on the lips. | | | |
| Zian Flemming on 11:10 - Aug 26 with 1992 views | Blue_Uprising |
He is listed as a pressing forward. And his defensive stats are in the top 95percentile for forward defensive actions. So I think he could probably play how we would like him to. [Post edited 26 Aug 11:14]
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| Zian Flemming on 11:25 - Aug 26 with 1873 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Zian Flemming on 09:48 - Aug 26 by Libero |
Personally, he's not for me - but if we sign him it's a great opportunity for Emersonn to establish himself, in a way that it wouldn't be if we signed someone of the quality of Ueda or Delap.
Edit: just gone and looked how he got on last year, as I was totally oblvious.
While I'm not a fan of the player, I will say that 11 premier league goals in 29 games in a relegated side *is* very impressive. [Post edited 26 Aug 9:50]
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I actually think he’s a good player, my issue with him is that I don’t see him being the 9 we need from a style point of view.
Not sure he’ll offer us a threat on the counter that Emersonn does & that’s what we are going to need this season.
Good that he can play both as a 9 & 10 but I just don’t think he’s right for us. Hope to be proven wrong if he does join though. |  |
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| Zian Flemming on 11:31 - Aug 26 with 1824 views | Bluemike31 |
I know some are keen on Flemming, for me, I'm not raving about it, it has the feel that we have missed out on our primary targets, Embolo etc, and are now scraping around for someone, if it comes off it will be the one signing for me that feels like Championship player, but let's see, time will tell, I kinda felt that way when we signed Delap.
That said, scoring Eleven goals in a struggling team in the prem is no mean feat. | | | |
| Zian Flemming on 11:36 - Aug 26 with 1785 views | bartyg |
| Zian Flemming on 10:59 - Aug 26 by Libero |
If we got Ueda I'd kiss Gary O'Neil on the lips. |
He's seen this and we've just stepped up the talks |  |
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| Zian Flemming on 11:36 - Aug 26 with 1783 views | Libero |
| Zian Flemming on 11:25 - Aug 26 by Reuser_is_God |
I actually think he’s a good player, my issue with him is that I don’t see him being the 9 we need from a style point of view.
Not sure he’ll offer us a threat on the counter that Emersonn does & that’s what we are going to need this season.
Good that he can play both as a 9 & 10 but I just don’t think he’s right for us. Hope to be proven wrong if he does join though. |
I'm biased, as I've never fancied him - but I have to admit that after seeing you managed to nab 11 premier league goals in 29 games, I am less concerned, as even if he isn't my cup of tea and I think (like you) we already have in house someone who does what he does, he is at least a Premier League proven goalscorer.
I've just got my heart set on Ueda, sadly. Only Delap could top him, and that appears to be an absolute no go, due to the fee and fact he's offer to Forrest. | | | |
| Zian Flemming on 19:27 - Aug 26 with 1371 views | armchaircritic59 |
| Zian Flemming on 09:37 - Aug 26 by Lion |
I loved Ueda's stats, his goalscoring last year compared to Ruud V N's last year in the dutch league, I hoped that with Maeda being here could help to attract him but after tenuous links about a month ago not seen him linked with us since, so presumed was a non goer sadly. Maybe the fact that Flemming has vast experience of English football would make him a better fit anyway. |
Ueda's stat of 18 goals in 43 appearances for Japan is I think the most important stat. Purely and simply a goal scorer. It would appear we want something different. Ray Crawford would never get a game in the modern era, 20/25 a season in the PL, wouldn't cut it, it seems. |  | | |
| Zian Flemming on 19:42 - Aug 26 with 1271 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Zian Flemming on 09:56 - Aug 26 by jayessess |
I don't know that he's quite what we need in terms of the broader game plan. The whole frontline is built around the front 4 being excellent out of possession and particularly the '9' chasing and pressing hard.
That's not particularly Flemming's game, he's not a focal point for your out of possession work which I think we need from a striker. Worth noting that Sunderland's top scorer only got 7 last season, so whilst you don't want a guy who can't finish, it isn't the end of the world if your striker is an ordinary finisher who just fits your system. |
He’s a really hard worker. He was in the top 5% of defensive contributions from defenders last season, dropping back and disrupting play. https://www.fotmob.com/en-GB/p Also good in the air in attack and at defending set pieces.
GON wouldn’t look at him if he wasn’t a hard worker and team player. | |
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